Succession Mafia (OVER!)

[ReaperCharlie]

/me backhands Porochaz

/me glares at ooba

[Quagmire]

Hi everyone. Still trying to catch up.

See that gandalf's been lynched. From what I've read so far I'm glad it's not ooba. Will hopefully have good material at beginning of tomorrow.

[ReaperCharlie]

Giggity.

[xvart]

Um... What happened? And we didn't wait to see if Yos2 would have hammered ooba why?

xvart.

[Andrius]

I have no idea, xvart.
No idea.

[Porochaz]

Because ooba was a terrible lynch?

[Porochaz]

and whatever yos would have done would have just added a crapload more WIFOM on our WIFOM boat the S.S. WIFOM?

[Andrius]

Tinfoil theory: ooba is Yos' recruiter. Gandalf was recruit.

[ReaperCharlie]

Tinfoil theory: ooba is Yos' recruiter. Gandalf was recruit.

holy f*cking sh*t I swear Andrius. don't make me disembowel you.

[Lord Gurgi]

Angry face for stopping me from cornering Gandalf.

[gandalf5166]

I'm actually town. Also, my PM has THREE extra words. Otherwise it would be exactly the same as the sample.

After my lynch, ooba is pretty obviously large cult recruiter. No other explanation for the speed of my wagon. Peace out guys. Sucks that I didn't get recruited.

[Lord Gurgi]

Yeah see that's the sort of detail that I was gunning for. Why can't you say this before the scum hammers you. Oh RIGHT the same reason you got a wagon started on you in the first place.

[gandalf5166]

Meaning that I'm not on every single second of the day?

[ReaperCharlie]

Honestly gandalf, if you even are town, it's your own fault you were lynched. If not... then... well, you got what was coming to you anyway.
I have gotten lynched a lot. It blows, so all I had to do was learn what NOT to do. And then.. wham-o! A miracle!. I stopped getting lynched.

For example:
Even with incontrovertible evidence against someone like Yos, Glork, or SpyreX, they still usually don't get lynched for at least a day or two.
Why? Cause they're exceedingly useful as either town or scum. Conversely, useless people don't need half a reason to get lynched. i.e. you.
No offense meant by that last, but if you're upset about being lynched as a townie for the gazillionth time, then it's time to look in the mirror.

Also try reading this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ood_Townie

[gandalf5166]

I got lynched because ooba was a recruiter, not because I was actually scummy. I still don't see anything resembling a case against me. Except by you. Because you're the only townie on the wagon. You're right that I suck at being town though. I actually do a better job of being a townie when I'm scum. :/ I'll read that.

[Lord Gurgi]

someone like Yos, Glork, or SpyreX

When the heck did SpyreX get on the same level as these guys?

[Andrius]

Because you're the only townie on the wagon.

You forget that RC isn't town-aligned. I'd bet an investigation that he has already been recruited.

[Darox]

I got lynched because ooba was a recruiter, not because I was actually scummy.

Keep telling yourself that.

[gandalf5166]

someone like Yos, Glork, or SpyreX

When the heck did SpyreX get on the same level as these guys?

It's called the CAPS LAWKE ALLIANCE. It's tech.

Because you're the only townie on the wagon.

You forget that RC isn't town-aligned. I'd bet an investigation that he has already been recruited.

Maybe. If he is though, he's on the non-ooba scumteam.

I got lynched because ooba was a recruiter, not because I was actually scummy.

Keep telling yourself that.

I played badly, but nothing I did could have been interpreted as having scum motivations.

[Darox]

Honestly gandalf, if you even are town, it's your own fault you were lynched. If not... then... well, you got what was coming to you anyway.
I have gotten lynched a lot. It blows, so all I had to do was learn what NOT to do. And then.. wham-o! A miracle!. I stopped getting lynched.

For example:
Even with incontrovertible evidence against someone like Yos, Glork, or SpyreX, they still usually don't get lynched for at least a day or two.
Why? Cause they're exceedingly useful as either town or scum. Conversely, useless people don't need half a reason to get lynched. i.e. you.
No offense meant by that last, but if you're upset about being lynched as a townie for the gazillionth time, then it's time to look in the mirror.

If someone comes up with incontrovertible evidence against Yos or Glork they get their asses lynched right away. I think you're confusing incontrovertible with "Hey guys I'm totally lacking in town cred or proof, and I think Yos is scum!"

Also try reading this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ood_Townie

Oh god that intro is so terrible why would anyone think this is good.
"Why bother playing if I’m a Townie?"
I mean, really. What the hell.

Also it suffers massively from usual wiki syndrome of 'Mafia do this. Don't do it as town. Lynch people who do.' as well as 'Mafia are the only people who push bullshit' and worst of all 'If you're a VT, let other people lead and just watch.'

You want a guide?

Protip: Think

If that isn't enough protip for you, I'll expand it.

Consider the goals of each possible faction in comparison to the actions of a person. Think about what actions make most sense for each faction. Remember to look at it from multiple sides, including the possibility that the person has no clue what they are doing. Consider the apparent emotional state as well as general play style of the person involved. Be willing to reconsider your conclusions based on new evidence or different angles. Test people to see if they match your expectations and gather more information. Don't treat anything as unshakable truth. Don't focus on one person to the extent that you lose sight of everyone else. Try to stick to Occam's razor in general; Don't discard outlandish possibilities, but remember that they are outlandish and weigh them accordingly.

There's probably some more general principles I could throw in and some stuff that will spark rebuttal from Mafia Discussion, but the underlying theme is Use Your Brain, it's not there just to keep you breathing.

[Yosarian2]

Also try reading this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ood_Townie

FWIW, that's pretty much the single worst piece of advice on the entire wiki. Pretty much everything in there is wrong, lol.

[Mr. Flay]

Getting too much sleep can apparently be bad for you - everyone seemed groggy and off their game for much of the day, and the night dragged on... and on... and on. Finally, enough of you were done with waiting and put an end to your misery (and a very sudden start to

gandalf

's) by unloading your hand cannons in his direction. As his body slumped down the increasingly pockmarked wall, you get the sinking sensation that it's going to get worse before it gets better...

UNRECRUITED GOON

(Vanilla Role)

Final Situation Report of Day Four:

[8]

gandalf5166 (Darox, Lord Gurgi, ooba, ReaperCharlie, Flameaxe, singersigner, Porochaz, Yosarian2)

[3]

ooba (xvart, Robocopter87, Quagmire)

[3]

Quagmire (Andrius, Chronopie, gandalf5166)

Holstered: nobody!

It is now Night Five; any and all Night Actions are due to me by midnight on Friday, November 19th.

[Mr. Flay]

Dawn comes and goes, and most of you are still snoring. Those of you who are not, have your own stories to tell... but like the saying goes, dead men tell no tales, and

ooba

is now one of those very dead men. By the time you all belatedly waken, you find his door forced open and a single gunshot to the chest having pierced his passionate but uncompromised heart.

UNRECRUITED LOOSE CANNON

(Killing Role)

It is now Day Five; with twelve alive, it will take seven drawn barrels to kill somebody. Your late start does not stop the fact that midnight will come on Sunday, December 5th

.

[Robocopter87]

Well, Reaper, you were wrong, what say you about this?

[Robocopter87]

I was wrong to I might add.