Mini 1057: Unsubsidized Mafia (Game Over!)

[Thor665]

Prod me without double prodding shotty and I will be sad.

[Chevre]

I have prodded drmyshottyzsik, his V/LA does not end until the 15th. I'll give everyone else another day.

[DemonHybrid]

Well then, I didn't catch his V/LA. haha

[Thor665]

I missed that too.

So...Canasta while we wait?

[redtail896]

Ah, we meet again Equinox I firmly believe that this will not end like the previous game.

I am here. Just waiting on Equi's thoughts.

[DemonHybrid]

I missed that too.

So...Canasta while we wait?

Wow, I haven't played Canasta in a few years.

[Equinox]

I probably should post an update. I'm still on Day 1, and I didn't get any reading done yesterday because I got side-tracked by last-minute writing. I'm setting aside time this afternoon after classes to read. \o/

[DemonHybrid]

Understood, try to have something up tonight. Deadline's creeping up.

[DemonHybrid]

Oh, and hey shotty, you have no excuse. Post.

[drmyshottyizsik]

DH I've been on V/La untill today, and now the doctor just told me that I have the flew so I may not post a lot.
*crawls back to the couch*

[Thor665]

@Shotty - All I want is for you to explain your case on redtail - that really doesn't seem like it should be hard. I don't even need quote walls, just give us the bullet points.

@DH - Me am happy with vote right now, happy x2.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Idk man, I'm so sick..
Basicly he uses a lot of IIoA
He tends to make himself look to needed, with his comanding of people
He seems to be way too confident
He fills a lot o his posts with not only fluff, but annotations of what he is doing almost as if he is making up a thought process to seems town.

There is more but man I'm way to sick

[DemonHybrid]

Shotty is town. Thor, join us on the Red wagon please after what Equinox has to say.

Shotty, did you take a smart pill or something? Your play has improved like thricefold.

[drmyshottyizsik]

No DH, I've always been really smart, my IQ is 137 I just am lazy when it comes to mafia a lot.
I actually went back and read the thread and ISO'd Red Tail.

[redtail896]

Idk man, I'm so sick..

1.

Basicly he uses a lot of IIoA

2.

He tends to make himself look to needed, with his comanding of people

3.

He seems to be way too confident

4.

He fills a lot o his posts with not only fluff, but annotations of what he is doing almost as if he is making up a thought process to seems town.

There is more but man I'm way to sick

The bolding is mine so I can respond point by point.

1. I guess? I can see how you would say that, but I disagree. In D1+2 I certainly used quite a bit of analysis, in both my case against singer and against jimfinn. I agree that my case against Far Cry is largely a rehash of his actions though. That's me trying to demonstrate the attitude in Far Cry that I believe to be scummy.
2. ? When have I really commanded people? I don't see evidence of making myself "look to needed"
3. I was certainly confident in my singer and jimfinn cases, less so on the Far Cry case. I don't know what you mean by "too confident" though. And even if I was very confident, why is that scummy?
4. I agree about the annotations. My posts tend to be me trying to put my thought process down on paper (well, virtual paper). The annotations are my actual thoughts. I'm not making up a thought process; I'm revealing my thought process for you all to see. I don't see what fluff you're referring to though. Examples?

Also: get better man.

[DemonHybrid]

ffff

When will something interesting happen

[Chevre]

Due to the amount of time it took to get a replacement, deadline is pushed back to

November 25th

!

[DemonHybrid]

Fantastic....

Equinox, what's up?

[Thor665]

It'd take me probably 3 days or so to read up on a 30 page game just since I do need to take breaks in order to keep up clear reading. So I suspect he's still working on it.

Do you maybe have opinions you want to bandy about with redtail? What do you think of his response to shotty - town/scum/null response to the case?

I personally find shotty's case to be 'gut' and I actually don't believe there is 'more'. His case is gut, your case is 'redtail has been noncommittal' and my case is pointing at a couple specific actions from shotty/nahammen and calling them scummy. There's a reason we're at a roadblock in our cases, I feel I've found scum cases and am focused on them, and the redtail case lacks them. Meanwhile you're basically on a gut case paired with a scum claiming gut and acting like I'm insane for voting him all while not responding to my issues with him.

Also, I am willing to believe shotty is sick with a terrible flu that happened to hit him immediately after his V/LA expired (and that seems a pretty solid leap to make for the man already) - but if he's so sick that it's painful to present a case, I am bewildered that he managed to show up and tell us how sick he was. He's clearly reading, and he's clearly physically capable of posting. I think he's trying to sandbag to either get me to get frustrated and go in on a redtail lynch or he's hoping Equi will sweep in and make it happen. The dude is scum and he's avoiding posting to leave us no ability to read him at lylo.

[DemonHybrid]

Thor, shotty's been nothing but town this game. It's rather absurd that you'd suggest he'd fake an illness to get on our good side. I still feel you are very town, but you are misguided.

I see no change in redtail's play in regards to his response to shotty. He reinforces the fact that he felt sure of his cases on both singer AND jimfinn EXCEPT when he's called out, which I find that I do a LOT as scum (I feel like I need to justify every action of mine when playing on the scumside and play my current actions as humble and cool).

I must stress that it's a rather huge mistake to target shotty at this point in time. I'll give you this; it's obvious that we aren't in LyLo. I can promise you that I am what I say I am. You sound not so sure about redtail. Come help me with the redtail lynch and if he flips town I promise you I will give SERIOUS consideration to shotty being scum. To me, everyone's basically obvioustown BUT redtail and we're going to be at a standstill until a major action resolution happens. It will not be a gamebreaker. How likely do you think that 3 scum will be in an 11 person game? Because I'm willing to bet not at all.

[Thor665]

Thor, shotty's been nothing but town this game.

It's rather absurd that you'd suggest he'd fake an illness to get on our good side.

I don't think he's faking the illness and said as much, I think he's playing up the illness. Look at his last post - it's practically like he's trying to type in *cough* and 'Uggggh' into his post. He bothers to type in twice about how sick he is and includes suggestions that his case is much bigger all while claiming that due to the horrible sickness he can't comment more on it.

@Equinox - if you're still trying to catch up you could probably expedite matters by focusing your read on redtail and shotty, that's the discussion of the day.

@DH - I'm going to give till Friday for shotty to recover from bubonic death plague and/or Equinox to catch up and offer insight. If at that point we're still sitting around with just you and I trading brilliant observations about our bellybuttons I'll go ahead and hammer redtail.

[Thor665]

Actually it's his second to last post - his last post pretty much proves how he's lurking in the thread and reading while apparently being too sick to type in a case but not sick enough to field a compliment.

[DemonHybrid]

Actually it's his second to last post - his last post pretty much proves how he's lurking in the thread and reading while apparently being too sick to type in a case but not sick enough to field a compliment.

He just off-the-cuff mentioned that he was sick and explaining why he's been iffy on attendance. You're looking way too much into finding reasons for his scumminess. He's not playing up an illness nor faking it, it was just a slight mention of it.

Fair enough on the Friday deadline, but I will not vote shotty today, nor will I think about it, in case you're trying to play towards me in order to get me on his wagon.

[Thor665]

I was trying to play towards you. Now I'll be hoping for Equinox.

[DemonHybrid]

Equinox can make his own decision, methinks.