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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:41 pm

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What the hell are you talking about? Of course it's in reference to you. It's YOU trying to fix the mistakes of your replacee. That's the whole damned point. I honestly don't get your argument at all. And why were you unvoting?

Also, where the bloody hell is Elli?
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:46 pm

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What?

DGB went "Ohh yea SpyreX bussed for cred"

On the day I replaced in.

And this whole "OMGUS" bidness is f--.

And the VT scum.

Its bad news bears and one of Toog and DGB is definitely lying about their role and I sure don't think its the panders.

And Unvote,Vote is an old habit from games where you have to unvote f---
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:02 pm

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You hadn't voted anyone today.

You've left Toog as not being scum due to him clearing me if he's telling the truth.

I don't see how the OMGUS isn't true, since you're still misrepresenting what was said. What she said was that Black Mist, who you replaced, did horrible and was also on the wagons of two town lynches. Enter you replacing in. You see your slot in danger, and begin to bus an easy partner as a way of gaining your slot some credibility. NOTHING is wrong with what she said about that.
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:09 pm

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Like I said, force of habit with the voting.

The 'cred' would make sense except for the fact that a cohesive unit would have bussed ME into the ground, not the other way around.

I've liked panda since before the claim and that hasn't changed.

OMGUS implies no reasons (and, hence, is one of the most overused and overvalued buzzwords that I hate) and if you honestly think there is no reasons at all for this vote nor had I alluded to it earlier welp.
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:18 pm

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Unless, of course, you'd managed to bus first.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:22 pm

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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:24 pm

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My point is that you're going after her for saying something that can't be true, but it can be. Either way, I'd still prefer an Elli lynch.
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:30 pm

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Elli can dangle, but not now:

* 3.) SpyreX (rep. Black Mist)
* 6.) Ellibereth
* 9.) GhostWriter
* 14.) DrippingGoofball (rep. Seraphim)

* 15.) Toogeloo

* 16.) Cogito Ergo Sum (vezokpiraka)
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* 11.) MagnaofIllusion, Martyr Magician, killed N0

* 8.) gandalf5166, The Great Zandolfini, lynched D1

* 7.) Fate, Magician Watcher, killed N1

* 13.) Razgriz, The Master, Hypnotist, lynched D2
* 5.) danakillsu, Magician, lynched D3
* 4.) Budja (rep. Rockerboo (rep.Budja (rep. Cuttlefish))), Magician, killed N3
* 2.) Antihero, Sosuke Aizen, Hypnotist, lynched D4
* 12.) MehPlusRawr, Magician Tracker, killed N4

* 10.) Katsuki, Magician Roleblocker, lynched D5

* 1.) Tasky (rep. animorpherv1), Magician, killed N5

Thats too many. There's too much overlap and I would have done this yesterday if Kat had actually freakin claimed.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:18 pm

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I agree with SpyreX that DrippingGoofball is the play. The amount of PRs is just too much (and the hypnosis mechanic doesn't help the scum either) and I have to trust Katsuki when it comes too Toogeloo. DrippingGoofball's claim of targetting me threw me off at the beginning, but she's smart enough to make the play.

Before we lynch though, I want to ask Toogeloo about her RB. Have you used it yet? If you haven't, please declare who you'll be using it on next night (assuming we lynch correctly since then there's only one scum left). That way you can clear someone even while dying.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:09 am

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CES, I'm not the play for today.

You are agreeing with scum.

Shame.

When I targeted you, I expected you to not be hypnotized again, and I was going to scream for your lynch. In hindsight, the scum may have calculated that I wouldn't choose the same target twice (SpyreX would think of that), and I got lucky. I confirmed Tasky (now dead), Toog & GW are confirmed, you are confirmed. This leaves two scumbags for us to hang. Also, I've been dropping breadcrumbs of my results and my predecessor's like mad (think of Fate for instance), from the get go. Use your head.

I guarantee you, if Either Spyrex or Elli gets to L-2, THEY WILL NOT BE QUICKLYNCHED because THEY ARE SCUM.

I want SpyreX to die first, because he's the harder lynch, and he's more cunning. Hanging Elli tomorrow after SpyreX flips scum will be a breeze and will win us the game.
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:36 am

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OK, so now that claims are out. I think Elli needs to die.

He is the most common denominator in all scum team possibilities.

Vote: Elli
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:45 am

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Did you even read my post, Toogeloo?
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:37 am

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I mentioned earlier that I used my Roleblock on Elli. But that doesn't mean Elli isn't scum, it just means he didn't send in the kill.
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:11 am

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Pannddaaa

Do you agree/disagree with the number of claimed/flipped PR's making a liar be there?
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:10 am

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I have been tunneled on DGB all game, and I absolutely would have done it in a heart beat yesterday.

Here's my conundrum....


Yesterday DGB was tunneled on CES like crazy for not being hypnotized, but today he doesn't want to lynch CES. If we are looking at a DGB/Elli scum team, wouldn't CES be the superior mislynch for the win? So why is he pressing for your head SpyreX?
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:18 am

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VOTE: Elli

I said it's the one I preferred. Elli is, as Toog said, the common descuminator.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:18 pm

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Probably because, like I said, there's a PR-scum for sure and I'm not about to go down without a blade.

I'm not a buyer on DGB/Elli while I read the articles. In fact, paranoia says DGB/CES buttt
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:35 pm

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Elli, if he were town, which he isn't, would be within quick-lynching range right now.

I'd still rather lynch SpyreX, if I could have my way. He's a POWERFUL WIZARD after all. Like Elli, SpyreX wouldn't be quick-lynched, either.

But scum is scum.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:07 pm

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Day Six Vote Count #1


2 Ellibereth (Toogeloo, GhostWriter)
1 DrippingGoofball (SpyreX)
1 SpyreX (DrippingGoofball)

With
6
alive it takes
4
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3
to lynch at deadline. Deadline is November 30, 1:45 p.m. CDT.

Not voting – 2 – Cogito Ergo Sum, Ellibereth
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:17 pm

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So, DGB, you are now 100% saying that all the PR's are telling the truth.

Just want that to be known.
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:23 am

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The case for the PRs being false is rather thin indeed at this point. The only argument is "balance." I know my own role. Falling for the "balance" argument would require me to reconsider Toogeloo+GhostWriter confirming each other and being scumbags instead, and that's too much of a stretch. It doesn't jive with their behavior - they have been acting very pro-town.

More likely, the scum (Elli and yourselfs) are banking on lynching PRs for "balance" issues, because frankly you have no other hope to get anyone lynched but yourselves at this point.

Since Elli isn't going to vote for himself, and you're not bus'ing, if we want a lynch before deadline, the two remaining townies, CES and myself, will have to vote Elli. That sure is a lot of commas in one sentence.

PEOPLE OF THE TOWN: If you want anymore evidence that SpyreX is the other scumbag, look at his efforts to avoid an Elli lynch.

Yesterday, SpyreX believed my claim, and wagoned Katsuki (with Elli putting Katsuki at L-1). He wrote: "
And you still haven't explained how those roles can't exist together
" which, if I understand correctly, means that SpyreX didn't push balance arguments yesterday as he does today. Quite the opposite; he was rather comfy with the power roles then.

I quite believe that both Elli and SpyreX are scum PRs. SpyreX's hesitation to bus Elli probably means that Elli's role is a key one.

The scum probably left me alive because they thought I would lead a CES lynch today. Hehe.
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:27 am

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It's almost as if we've had an extra PR flip in the meantime that would've caused SpyreX to change his mind, isn't it, DGb?
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:00 am

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The hesitance to the Elli lynch is a bit telling.

I am reconsidering re-voting for SpyreX, just simply because he is more vocal than Elli. You may have convinced me, DGB. Elli seems to have rolled over, but SpyreX will be given the ability to mislynch twice if we let it go by, some thing that is dangerous for us.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:00 am

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What seems dangerous to me is that this is, no doubt, mylo, Elli's wagon is being fought by nearly everyone, and that seems most likely to make Elli scum. Meaning we won't lose when Elli is strung up.

As for PR discussion, it's pointless. You can't use a "balance" argument without knowing that roles the mafia have. After all, the balance would have them as the "check" to keep things from tilting too far in favor of the town.
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:47 am

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Everyone has checked in, and Elli is still alive - so he's 100% scum.

SpyreX is going to be really feisty tomorrow, that's why I'd like to lynch him first. He's 100% scum as well.

I'm about ready to switch to Elli. SpyreX, can you help us and bus?
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