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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:41 pm

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I SAW YOUR NAME PERSON WHO STARTS WITH A Z AND IF YOU TRY TO DODGE MY QUESTION I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND KILL YOU NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

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implosion: 1 (podium)
podium: 4 (Fate, GhostWriter, Nacho, VibeBox) L-3
Seacore: 1 (implosion) L-6
VibeBox: 4 (Magna, Seacore, VasudeVa, Zinive) L-3
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:43 pm

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Fate, I've grown tired of going around and around with Podium. I know why my vote is there.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:45 pm

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wow fate. the crack pipe. put it down.

implosion was wrong about it not being in context, and his paraphrase wasn't even close to what seacore meant. seacore actually explained it correctly in post 35, but implosion came back in post 36 saying it still seemed out of context. then seacore dropped it.

taking a second look at it now, i can see how seacore could drop it at that point. but implosions description/paraphrase of it remains scummy, imo.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:46 pm

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You know, Ghost? I like you.

You seem like a dapper individual.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:47 pm

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Isn't it fun when people find something scummy on someone, but say that a similar situation with them is scummy?

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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:49 pm

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GhostWriter wrote:Fate, I've grown tired of going around and around with Podium. I know why my vote is there.
Translation: "Post 63 pretty much junked my case."
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:49 pm

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Hey. Podium. Do you know how far away you are from a lynch?

Just wonderin'.

Also, am I wrong to assume that your case on implosion was just an attempt to deflect the wagon off you onto someone else, or at least give the appearence of scumhunting off? No, you don't have to answer this. You won't answer it honestly anyways.

I guess what I'm saying is why don't you hold your own against Fate right now? Like, instead of going "HERP DERP YOU SMOKE CRACK", tell him to jump in a lake or look elsewhere or something. Like, standing for your morals and beliefs and not giving in like a damned Frenchman?
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:51 pm

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podium123456 wrote:
GhostWriter wrote:Fate, I've grown tired of going around and around with Podium. I know why my vote is there.
Translation: "Post 63 pretty much junked my case."
Actually, I hold the belief that your translation is wildly inaccurate.
If you wish to disprove my belief, then it would be wise to begin by explaining how your Post 63 explained away his case.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:53 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:begin by explaining how your Post 63 explained away his case.
This. Do it.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:57 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote: I guess what I'm saying is why don't you hold your own against Fate right now? Like, instead of going "HERP DERP YOU SMOKE CRACK", tell him to jump in a lake or look elsewhere or something. Like, standing for your morals and beliefs and not giving in like a damned Frenchman?
giving in? where did i give in? i said that his main point against me was ridiculous...

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Translation: "Post 63 pretty much junked my case."
Actually, I hold the belief that your translation is wildly inaccurate.
If you wish to disprove my belief, then it would be wise to begin by explaining how your Post 63 explained away his case.
That doesn't make any sense. The post is a rebuttal, and includes what you are asking for. Do you want me to rewrite it for you? This is the part in a debate where the other person rebuts it, if they disagree.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:03 pm

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GhostWriter wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:begin by explaining how your Post 63 explained away his case.
This. Do it.
It's your turn. That's how a debate works.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:15 pm

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Hey podium!
(hey what?)
I don't have to rewrite your rebuttal!
(my what?)
Why? BECAUSE THERE'S COPY AND PASTE.
podium123456 wrote:Ok, just finished going through the thread. My thoughts:

@ Fate - He's pretty tunneled on me, as well as a little weird. His initial argument against me... (that i was actually scum, and was wanting to know what the bread crumb was for my benefit)... is just as dumb as me not realizing his initial comment was sarcastic. i mean, do you really think that as scum, i would genuinely be asking that? That would be pretty naive, and i would expect most people to assume that... just like most people might assume that fate was joking.

the difference is that when i realized fate was joking, i dropped it... but fate keeps trudging along with his theory, even though i explained what i was doing. i dont find him that scummy right now, though. and yes, what i said was similar to asking 'are you serious'.

now i will sit here and wait for him to yell and curse at me.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

@ Vibebox - i didnt see anything wrong with his vote.

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@ Implosion:
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Seacore wrote:Then again, I'm used to always being accused of scum early in Day 1, as some of you can attest to, so maybe I was just paranoid.
Excuses excuses excuses.
VOTE: Seacore
So far this is the scummiest thing i have found so far. (which doesn't necessarily mean it's severe)

I dont see how you couldn't understand the context of this. He was explaining why he read nacho and fate's posts in a serious manner... because he is used to being accused of being scum early on D1.

How is that out of place/context?

Your rebuttal to seacore was:
It basically amounts to saying "hey guys, people always find me scummy so even if I'm scummy you shouldn't accuse me for it."
It doesn't amount to that at all. Not even close.

UNVOTE
VOTE: implosion


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On a related note, i want to ask seacore why you left off the argument where you did. what he said (that i just quoted) was a complete misrepresentation of what you said. Now... he might have taken something the wrong way, and not realized what you actually meant... but why didn't you correct him? Why would you back down from that argument when it is so easy (and evident) to show that he is mistaken/wrong?

Makes me wonder if that was a light distancing attempt, and seacore maybe tried to let it go as a light encounter, instead of getting into a bigger discussion over it.

And when i think about it that way, implosions inaccurate paraphrase looks like something a scum would say to another scum early in the game, as a light bus.
GhostWriter wrote:Okay, this is down-right pathetic and/or scummy. Clearly, Fate is using this to make an RVS vote. Clearly. Very fucking clearly. Podium deserved the vote he got for allegedly not seeing that. Probably thought Fate would just point out that it was an RVS vote and leave it at that, though he apparently doesn't know Fate very well. "Sarcasm doesn't work well in text". Really? It's the RVS, the part of the game most likely to be filled with nothing but sarcasm and joking around. In fact, choo-choo. VOTE: Podium
Zinive wrote:This is around my 9th game and I would like to know from everyone how many games he/she has already played already.
25+ on this site.
Wait. My heart didn't skip a beat in joy.

YOU DIDN'T DO GOOD ENOUGH. YOUR RESPONSE WAS QUITE LITERALLY "REALLY?" THAT'S NOT A REBUTTAL. IF HE WASN'T SERIOUS, HE WOULDN'T BE VOTING YOU.

What did you expect, anyways? Him to go "Nah, just fuckin with ya mate. I really want to vote this easily mislynchable townie."

NO. GET OUT OF CANDYLAND, PANSY.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:16 pm

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podium123456 wrote:
GhostWriter wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:begin by explaining how your Post 63 explained away his case.
This. Do it.
It's your turn. That's how a debate works.
this is not a debate.
this is a mafia game.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:16 pm

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PODIUM IS A GODDAMNED FRENCHMAN.

'NUFF SAID.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:49 pm

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Zdenek replaces xenophon.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:58 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:Hey podium!
(hey what?)
I don't have to rewrite your rebuttal!
(my what?)
Why? BECAUSE THERE'S COPY AND PASTE.
I have no idea why you quoted that post, and then said everything you did. It had nothing to do with post 63.

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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:00 pm

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EVERYONE WHO SUSPECTS ME IS ON CRACK
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:28 pm

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everyone who acts erratic is on crack.

it's a proven fact.

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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:01 am

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Hey, Vas! Let's go over my "shitpost", shall we?
VibeBox wrote: You guys are cute.
In other news, I like to actively discourage laziness, so...no.
Here I dismiss the wagon on me as lazy and contentless, and outright refuse to answer a question.
And yet I haven't been piled on for it!

Probably because I am right.
This was useful to the game.
The above is also the retroactive answer to:
VasudeVa wrote: VibeBox, opinions on the wagon on you.
So, my post was shit because it was "all basically available in thread", yet you felt the need to ask a question I answered
in that same "shitpost".

VibeBox wrote:
podium123456 wrote:wait... let me pull a fate
Fate wrote: I have other games I replaced into that take precedent.
OMG guys, he just told us he's going to be lurking... and... SCUM LURK.

HOLY GOD!! Wagons! Big WAGONS! NAO!

derpaderpa derp.

edit: ninjad
Try not to shitpost.
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Fate wrote: HERAPDERPA IM GONNA MOCK FATE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET A READ ON HIS ALIGNMENT BECAUSE IM SCUM
*facepalm*

If i'm scum then why do i need to try and get a read on your alignment, dumbass?

HOO BOY... we in for a good one here folks.
u r a fail.
This was an
enormous
failure to understand a simple argument from his opponent. There was no reason for me not to comment on it, and it puts me on the record in another issue.
VibeBox wrote:Ghost is AOKAIE by my.
Vas and Zinive are not.
This is me providing my current reads, including two players as yet unmentioned (one of them being you, and you admit that I was right to say so because of your contentless post)
So...
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VibeBox wrote: What,
precisely
, in my post you were referring to meets this criteria?
VasudeVa wrote:Your
whole
#65.
Why don't you tell us why these comments are...
VasudeVa wrote:stale shit openly available in thread
VasudeVa wrote: Soo, because I misunderstood your fancy-shmancy hip version of 'Okay', thinking that you were calling me and Zinive not fail when you had little reason to say so, I'm automatically calling for brownie points?
If you couldn't understand what I was saying why did you assume it was a negative comment, thus making my remark about you and Zi positive ones?
VasudeVa wrote:Because podium is a 'fail', what's your read on him? Do you think he's Town-fail or scum-fail?
It was actually "Null-Fail" before, but I wanted to push a wagon to keep us from relapsing into RVSishness. Now, idk, but he is definitely still some kind of fail.
Unvote
until I reread the thread.
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@ Vibebox - i didnt see anything wrong with his vote.
I don't know who you're referring to here, or why you are addressing it to me.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Vibe, is Ghost still A OK with you?
For now, he is still ok, but losing points for not posting.

I didn't see the following post until Fate quoted it. (It was the last on a page)
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Vibebox wrote:Allowing an unclaimed player to reach L-1 seems awful. It allows for quicklynching and self-hammering.
And both the options you mention here have consequences. If you don’t like the site meta calling it awful isn’t going to do much good.
Consequences Scum only suffer if they make the decision that it is positive EV for them to do so, but w/e, this isn't the place for the discussion. If you don't agree with my opinion, making a pointless post about it isn't going to do much good.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Vibebox wrote:I'm sorry that a little intrawebs lingo is enough to confuse you.
It has nothing to do with confusing me. Nice try Tex.
Yes it does.
Also, Smear.
MagnaofIllusion wrote: It has everything to do with consistency in your opinion and posting.
Please point out a specific inconsistency in my opinion.
MagnaofIllusion wrote: You call someone out for crap posting and then post what is basically crap yourself. That borders on Cognitive Dissonance.
It would...if I had shitposted. You can answer the same rebuttal I gave Vas above if you want to continue to assert that I shitposted.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Vibebox wrote:He completely failed to understand Fate's point. Are you really saying you couldn't tell that's what I was referencing?
It’s clear he failed to get the reference.
Correction: It was clear he was
acting as though
he didn't get the reference.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:If your statement doesn’t indicate he is scum for doing so why did you post it? If it does indicate he is scum why didn't you just call him scummy as opposed to being cute?
You say "cute" (to make me look bad), I say "acting with some degree of subtlety".
I was going somewhere with that line of questioning, but your chainsawing has spoiled it.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Vibebox wrote:Vas & Zinive = not
I looked at your ISO. Your only mention of Zini is to call him one of the ‘funny’ guys and you only interacted with VV at ISO 4. So unless you are going purely on ‘gut’ here some support would be great.
It is quite early in the game, and at this point "gut" is half of it. Given the low number of posts by each of them at that point, you really couldn't deduce the reasons I didn't like either of them? (oh gee, I didn't directly call you scummy, oh noooo000! Now answer.)
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:29 am

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UntrodTripodMod is best mod, and not just because of the mad good rhyming scheme.

Podium's wagon is excellent. I wish it would hurry to a lynch already.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:37 am

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Nachomamma8 wrote: Podium's wagon is excellent. I wish it would hurry to a lynch already.
Remind me again what your case is against me. Because so far all you have done is admitted that you are sheeping fate.

I think your *being cute* card is just about used up.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:42 am

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Cute?

MY AVATAR IS FUCKING SMOKING. THAT'S NOT CUTE, THATS FUCKING DANGEROUS MAN.

And yeah. I'm all for lynching your ass. Cuz GW was all like "here's a case", and you were like "WIFOMWIFOMWIFOMWIFOM", and that's not a rebuttal at all. Try harder, brosky. Try harder. Oh, you still don't know what I'm talking about? Here:
podium wrote: i mean, do you really think that as scum, i would genuinely be asking that?
THAT. IS YOUR ENTIRE REBUTTAL. JUST THAT.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:00 am

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podium123456 wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote: Podium's wagon is excellent. I wish it would hurry to a lynch already.
Remind me again what your case is against me. Because so far all you have done is admitted that you are sheeping fate.

I think your *being cute* card is just about used up.
Remind me again what your case is on anyone, because I trashed your implosion one and that's about the closest you've actually come to scumhunting.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:04 am

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Losing points for not posting? I'm still waiting for my case to be touched by anything substantial. If the best that can be mustered is "No, no, no, no, no, no, I said no and that's good enough", then I don't think I need to really say anything. The vote speaks for itself, but if it didn't, then his iso speaks volumes.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:10 am

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Nachomamma8 wrote:Cute?

MY AVATAR IS FUCKING SMOKING. THAT'S NOT CUTE, THATS FUCKING DANGEROUS MAN.
cute as in laughy-jokey-i'm gonna be the cool funny guy, and no one will suspect a thing.
Nachomamma8 wrote: And yeah. I'm all for lynching your ass. Cuz GW was all like "here's a case", and you were like "WIFOMWIFOMWIFOMWIFOM", and that's not a rebuttal at all. Try harder, brosky. Try harder. Oh, you still don't know what I'm talking about? Here:
podium wrote: i mean, do you really think that as scum, i would genuinely be asking that?
THAT. IS YOUR ENTIRE REBUTTAL. JUST THAT.
This is the third time i have said post 63... why haven't you got it through your thick head that that is the rebuttal in question?

What you quoted was part of a rebuttal to fate.

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