Magician's Mafia: The Hypnotists, Game Over

[DrippingGoofball]

@ CES

That PR that just flipped "to change SpyreX's mind" was one that SpyreX successfully lynched.

But he's scum, so in SpyreX's case, it's more a change of strategy than a change of mind.

[Ellibereth]

HEY GHOST, ELLI HAS BEEN THE BLOODY HELL BUSY...
Now.

I'm not sure on the whole balance issue since I was in this game a while back where it was town was daytalkmasons + `-shot cop + 2-shot doctor + 1-shot treestumper vs. 3 vanilla scum (or sometihng like that) and one of DGB or me (we were the masons) got Lylo'ed due to balance reasons...yeah....

Tracker + Watcher + Roleblocker + {Great Zandolfini} + {Martyr} doesn't look that off...and scum might have PR's too sooooo yeah.

Oh, Gandalf DID say what his role was: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p2522764.
He can tell if he's hypnotized...

So Martyr is the only question mark...yeah whatever balance arguments are stupid.

So I have to think through this all ignoring that.
If DGB is town:
Then CeS is town.
Leaving, Spy, Panda, and Ghost.

If Panda is town:
Then Ghost has to be town.
Leaving Spy, DGB, Ces

Ok...so that means that Panda and DGB both can't be town anyway right? >.>
Unless i"m missing something...

[Ellibereth]

DGB ufail. SCUM NEED TO CHECK IN IN PAIRS.
and THERE WON'T be a quick hammer since ONE OF YOU AND PANDA ARE SCUMZ soooooo.

[Ellibereth]

Wait, how did kat's roleblocks hold into this. Was there any reason for kat to just believe panda like that and not think that he had blocked kill?
I forgot the timeline of how things happened...maybe Kat had blocked someone who alreaydy died an dflipped town or sometihng. Will check on it.

[DrippingGoofball]

Pfffffffft

If Toogie and I were scum, and you were town, we would have quicklynched you... and you'd be mucho deado already. The only reason you're still alive is because you're scum.

I'm glad that SpyreX is your common scuminator.

Are you willing to lynch him?

[Toogeloo]

Unvote

... for now... Let's talk this out.

@Elli:
Kat seemed 100% sure that I stopped the kill on Night 2 based on his ISO and specifically post #858. Any number of possibilities could represent this.

-Maybe he took no action on Night 2?
-Maybe Kat was Roleblocked himself on Night 2?
-He may have limited uses of his power, and did not act that evening?


We can't fathom to guess why, however, we can read him, and it seems strongly to me that he himself is sure he didn't have a part in stopping the Night 2 kill. I don't think that if Kat had reason to believe he stopped the kill that he would "virtually confirm" me.


@SpyreX:
You said paranoia was gripping you that you think DGB and CES are scumbuddies. Look at yesterday, with DGB tunneled on CES, and CES doubting DGBs claim and wanting to lynch him, do you take counter-bussing from that?

[Toogeloo]

Also... might I suggest a No Lynch here? I'm not sure the feasibility of it, or if it's even a wise play, but with even numbers it may make tomorrow easier.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Since you've already used your rb, no-lynching sounds good. But we have to be a whole lot more careful with our votes tomorrow.

Unvote, vote: no-lynch

[SpyreX]

I'm not at home so you get the abridged version now and the replying to quotes later.

"SpyreX changed his mind about the PR's"

No. Look closer, I was bothered by it yesterday. If Kat had, ya know, claimed with enough time to assess that might have went differently which leads to:

"SpyreX spearheaded that lynch"

Yes, because the flip doesn't change the fact from the pieces known "Self-hypnotize knower" didn't mean "Test if hypnotized" couldn't exist. That was garbage then and still is.

IF when this game is done I see either a N2 action OR a block on DGB from Kat I will explode.

That said,

A nolynch today is going to be guaranteed one of Ghost / CES dead.

Keep that in mind.

@Toog:

DGB/CES is paranoia. It doesn't make sense considering today AND it doesn't make sense with the VC's but I can't shake it.

[DrippingGoofball]

Guys???????

WUT??????????

Elli wan't quicklynched... that means he's scum... there is NO WAY IN HELL THAT HE's TOWN

NO-lynch is not an option at all.

I guess SpyreX is for tomorrow.

VOTE: Ellibereth

[DrippingGoofball]

The "numbers" cannot possibly be easier... where is all that doubt coming from... this is a no-brainer.

[DrippingGoofball]

I want to throttle you all.

Except the scum, they're just doing their job.

[SpyreX]

^^^^

This is one thing we can agree on.

You've no idea how tempting it is to just hammer here and end this.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Don't pretend you didn't notice Toogeloo's unvote, SpyreX.

[SpyreX]

Noticed? Sure.

Forgot when I posted that? Yep.

Excellent contribution would subscribe to your letter.

[Toogeloo]

Going to be very minimal activity from me this weekend. I will pop in when I can, but today is my son's birthday, my mother is flying in today. I am going to be entertaining through the weekend. We are moving at a snails pace anyways, but I figure you should all know that I may only check once or twice during the course of the weekend.

[GhostWriter]

I understand the numbers game with a no lynch option. It would be why I questioned our possible status at the moment. A no lynch, however, would end up with a dead me or CES. Not that I'm worried about CES. I simply enjoy being alive. Breathing is fun. Touching is absolutely amazing, if you catch my drift. Anyway, the numbers, of course working out that people would rather play from lylo instead of mylo. Of course, we can just skip the actual no lynch and ask ourselves: What if they NK'd Ghost? What if they NK'd CES? Now compare.

[DrippingGoofball]

SpyreX, why don't you vote for Elli?

Someone else can hammer.

[SpyreX]

It would have been a hammer made from raw hate.

Nothing has changed and maybe, MAYBE, the light will be seen.

[DrippingGoofball]

KRAP

The scum really doesn't want to bus.

Townies we must unite and reach a concensus - NO-LYNCH is not an option when obv-scum is obv-scum.

[SpyreX]

You KNOW I wont let it go to no-lynch.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I don't see why you're so opposed to no-lynch, DGb. If you're telling the truth about your role, then you'll get an extra night of actions to work with.

[DrippingGoofball]

I want to lynch scum. Why no-lynch when we have a guaranteed scumbag (proof: wasn't quicklyched) and his obv partner that doesn't want to bus (SpyreX).

Why don't you want to lynch scum?

[DrippingGoofball]

Besides, I know you're town.

I know I'm town.

I believe Toogie and GW are town.

That leaves Elli-scum and Spyrex-scum.

What further information can I get at night??? None.

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[SpyreX]

I absolutely don't get the idea that this setup is balanced with this many PR's and knowing tonight is going to be one of the two 'confirmed' killed well.