Mini 1080 -- txtMafia -- Game OVER

[The Fonz]

Again, you're saying misrep without evidence. "I don't want to contribute till we have more concrete reads" is absolutely a scummy thing to say.

[Herodotus]

AV hasn't been S/Hing any more than Task.

:incredulous face emoticon:

[The Fonz]

^ What he said.

[Kast]

Voting for a player because they voted for a V/LA person is hardly helpful, especially as a first vote. For that matter, a vote on a V/LA person is not complete

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[The Fonz]

And whatever Kast says 'Too much spam to serious start scumhunting' IS excusing not scumhunting. No other way to read it.

[The Fonz]

It's a real reason, based on behavior, and is antitown.

[Kast]

Hero- Both have been extremely low utility. If there were a scale of utility 0-10, it's like both are 0.45 and 0.47. Does that make them scum? No. But Task is b

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[The Fonz]

Kast: do you actually find AV scummy?

[Kast]

Placing a vote vs. asking if he knew kunk was V/LA, the vote is completely unnecessary.

[Kast]

TF- Not particularly. What clinches him is the vote position on the Task wagon. Gut + past experience indicate it's an initial scum vote.

[The Fonz]

No. Of all the options Tsk had with his vote, he chose one least helpful to town. There's always the poss. he did that because

he doesn't want

to help town.

[The Fonz]

At the very least, that he didn't do all in his power to figure out how best to help the town with that post.

[Kast]

The pressure on Task though is way overhyped. You've convinced yourself he's scum based on a stretched interpretation of his post.

[The Fonz]

Clinches him as what? Also, first Tasky wagon or second?

[Kast]

Agreed. Once again, your comment implies the assumption that sub-optimal play = scum. That's ridiculous.

[The Fonz]

No, I've convinced myself

he's more likely than random

to be scum because he hasn't shown any protown initiative at all.

[The Fonz]

Antitown actions are always at least slightly scummy, that's the foundation of my entire theory of scumhunting.

[The Fonz]

You're conflating scummy and scum in my assertions, and it pisses me off. Not helping the town when you had the opportunity always makes you slightly more likel

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[Kast]

AFAIK AV only voted Task once;not sure what you mean by 1st/2nd wagon
AV's vote is the prob-scum on the wagon.likely ~1 scum on wagon regardless of Task's affil

[The Fonz]

There are two clear Tasky wagons. The early, 'just better than random' one pushed by AV and myself: the latter deadline one based on his actions since then.

[Kast]

TF-We disagree on basic theory then (or you're using screwy definitions). Anti-town just means its net negative for town. Scummy means indicative of scum

[AurorusVox]

I have been prodded. Sorry, was very busy, didn't get chance to mention V/LA. More posts inbound...

[Herodotus]

At the very least, that he didn't do all in his power to figure out how best to help the town with that post.

:incredulous face emoticon:

[The Fonz]

IE the not doing anything to help the town, plus me doing the reading and finding that what he claimed was his playstyle wasn't.

[Kast]

2 wagons is irrelevant; I'm clearly referring to AV's vote and that's only on the first wagon. Unnecessary confusion...