Hey everyone not named Fate, Nacho, VV, Vibebox, Podium and Seacore - There's lots to actually, you know, comment on here.
Nacho wrote:No, I don't want you to claim. Hell, I don't want you to even defend yourself, really. I just want you to believe that you won't get lynched. And so don't get lynched. Although, I don't know whether this is L-2 or L-1 because the votecount confused my feeble heart. But that's okay.
Thanks for confirming my early suspicion that you were Town with this post. Because we both know the Vote Count was hardly anything confusing and Scum-Nacho doesn’t play stupid.
Seacore wrote:Given that I'm not happy any more with my vote on Vibe, I'm going to shift my vote
Unvote. Vote Podium
Note, this doesn't mean I'm happy with Vibe's play and style, I just view it as anti-town rather than scum.
So you thought Vibe was scum earlier, didn’t address him in any significant way, and now are changing to he is Anti-Town? Just want to be clear.
Fate wrote:DODGE FLUFFPOST
But of course we can't get MoI lynched D1, so I digress.
Ah, Fate I know you know the difference between dodging legitimate questions and just ignoring your reaction-fishing. That’s OK. You do know very well I’m not ever going to just sheep you. Someone around here needs to not be a ‘Yes Man’. Think of me as your personal Katy from LOTR Mafia for this game.
On to review the Case on Podium
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The whole ‘That’s pure scum-reaction’ on regarding the non-existant breadcrumb is junk. Sorry, not convincing in the least. And I can’t say that his defensive posture and escalation into name-calling really sells me either. It’s clear frustration, but that can be any alignment.
Now the lack of scum-hunting – that speaks to me.
Because the attack on Implosion was bad. It’s already been laid out but Seacore’s ‘I’m used to being wagonned so I am paranoid’ statement is soft self-meta and pointless. So Implosion was right to question it. I also note this is the second occasion where Seacore and Podium back-up each other by defending interpretation of statements. Seacore defended Podium’s reaction to the breadcrumbs and Podium here is explaining for Seacore what Seacore’s thoughts are.
Post 90 reinforces the lack of scum-hunting. Here he characterizes a post by VV as scummy. VV earns +scumpoints. Is that suspicion followed up on? Not at all. It’s just a pot-shot floating out into the ether that didn’t gain traction and thus is forgotten. The vote hangs with Implosion.
160 where suddenly Seacore is obv-scum (what happened to VV?) after Fate laid the groundwork as to why Seacore might be worth suspicion is just moving a vote to move it.
Anyone take notice that neither Podium or Vibebox are doing anything of significance in the way of commenting on the other? Given they are the two biggest wagons you might think as Town they’d be looking at the other as potential scum. Yet all we get is Vibe telling podium to post better.
Now onto Vibe –
Vibebox wrote:Here I dismiss the wagon on me as lazy and contentless, and outright refuse to answer a question. And yet I haven't been piled on for it!
You do understand that this is agreeing with the assertion that you were shitposting, right?
Vibebox wrote:This is me providing my current reads, including two players as yet unmentioned (one of them being you, and you admit that I was right to say so because of your contentless post)
So you provide a Town read on a player that Fate already christened Town and then vague suspicion that looks like you just threw darts at the Wall to find your targets. There’s a song about that …
You say ‘Useful to the game’, I say “more shitposting’.
Vibebox wrote:It was actually "Null-Fail" before, but I wanted to push a wagon to keep us from relapsing into RVSishness. Now, idk, but he is definitely still some kind of fail.
So once again you were just pointing out something that wasn’t a scum or Town tell just because you thought we’d ‘relapse’ into RVS? Not buying that at all. RVS was dead and gone.
Vibebox wrote:Yes it does.
Also, Smear.
Lulz. You are accusing me of the dreaded Smear when your original statement amounted to ‘DERP YOU IZ A MORON WHO CAN’T THINKZ’.
Vibebox wrote:Please point out a specific inconsistency in my opinion.
You know, the whole ‘Don’t shitpost’ while doing it yourself. As already addressed above and when I first called you on it. Need it repeated a third time?
Vibebox wrote:You say "cute" (to make me look bad), I say "acting with some degree of subtlety".
I was going somewhere with that line of questioning, but your chainsawing has spoiled it.
Actually I specifically used cute because you yourself used it in your opening shitpost dismissal of accusations against you. Were you 'trying to make others look bad' yourself? For someone so steeped in the art of subtlety you sure missed that.
Ah, the Chainsaw accusation. Nice.
Vibebox wrote:It is quite early in the game, and at this point "gut" is half of it. Given the low number of posts by each of them at that point, you really couldn't deduce the reasons I didn't like either of them? (oh gee, I didn't directly call you scummy, oh noooo000! Now answer.)
Here’s a hint – Mafia is a game of information exchange. Town getting their opinions and suspicions out in the open helps solidfy Town reads and nail scum. Your insistence that others guess your reasoning sucks.
I think my vote can stay right here for the moment. Because like Podium you’ve spent your time basically explaining away suspicion as opposed to looking for scum.
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
