First things first: I was hanging out with friends for quite some time on my days off, causing me to have, I believe literally, 5 minutes on the internet from the time of my last post here to now. I started writing this post at least 2 and a half hours ago.
Now, I'll get to actually answering things. I shall be typing this up as I go along, so that I won't miss anything. Ready? Here we go.
Post 146: The point is that you wrote it as "GW is saying that I thought Fate was joking". The problem with this it that it conveys me thinking you're a damned town-aligned player. I do not. The whole thing is that you are mafia, who knew that Fate wasn't serious, but saw it as a way to paint him in a negative light for use later on if you needed, or to play it right away had things swung in your favor. Do not type it in a way that looks like I think you're town and am just running with this.
176: You claim to not believe that I thought it was an obvious RVS vote whilst calling it an obvious RVS vote. You say that I should have seen it as reasonable for Podium to see it as a serious vote, but, as I have pointed out already, it is nothing more that Nacho's vote defined. If Nacho's is seen as RVS, Fate's was RVS. The corelation between the two is undeniable. When you simplify what Fate said, you end up with what Nacho said, and, assuming you read things in order, or ever went back and read what Nacho said first, this is obvious to see. If it isn't, then someone isn't thinking on the level I need them to think on as town. And rather than assume someone unable to grasp that fact, it seems far more likely that he is scum.
Next, you talk about my post 59. The problem is that if he's going to even acknowledge what Fate says, then actually do something. If you think was he's saying is pure horse manure and that you want nothing to do with it, then say so ONCE, and let it go until he says something that you, or a good-sized number of your peers, consider to be a legitimate case that you need to argue against. What the hell is good about him just saying "herp derp" until he has multiple pages in his iso making it look like he's posting well when most of it is pointless drivel and contentless babble that has no point?
My 101 is not saying that at all. You tell me, where was my discussion going? In circles. I don't feel like restating my point and restating my point and restating my fucking point. Oh, just because he says "Nuh uh" to what I say, that makes it true? No.
That whole post, essentially, was a textbook chainsawing of Podium's attackers. You voted me, the loudest person on the Podium wagon who isn't Fate. You FoS'd Nacho, a quieter member of the wagon who appears fairly solidly locked in. You attempt to dispell Fate by chalking it all up to "you guys just don't know how to deal with Fate, and you're being taken advantage of for it" by use of the "Fate-virgins" term, without actually coming out and FoSing him. I assume it's due to fear. You cut through Seacore's attacks and call them all bad, but leave him alone, I assume because Fate is already after him partly, and you'd rather wait for Fate to commit to it more, and then follow by using this post as your jumpoff. Quite frankly, if Podium flips scum, this post alone would be my motivation to come after you right after.
Post 177: I was busy. I can see, now, that there has been much posting. However, I, at that point, had not been gone from the discussion for nearly as long as you had.
However, I look forward to the responses to your post. Honestly, I had, at the time of my last post, been so caught up in my initial reasoning that I'd begun to tunnel a bit. However, your specific examples of the lack of scumhunting from Podium are very nice. The lack of any follow-up behind each of his "cases" seems to me as scum trying to point at people once said scum has been called out for lack of hunting, but not having anything to back it up with due to either knowing that they are aiming at townies who aren't guilty or scum partners they aren't willing to bus at the moment.
The parallel drawn between Podium and Vibe, as well as their mutual unspoken agreement to not acknoledge said parallel is as a good point to bring up.
Post 191: I sneaked a peak ahead, someone already answers your first problem with MoI's post.
The next thing, though... He wasn't even attacking you over it, he called it a nulltell, and you defended against that for what reason, exactly? He didn't even say you started the damn name-calling. Just that your posts began to have more of it in them. Over-defensive, neh? Oh, wait, that's covered too. And, again, is given a nulltell read, but you defend against the NULLTELL READ.
And of course you didn't read Fate's case on Seacore. Yup, just like you likely never noticed his vote leave you and travel to Seacore, though it did rightfully return to you. You just missed all that. And if you did notice it leave and didn't wonder why and think to look back, and expect people to think of that as a true-blue townie reaction, then you deserve the lynch you'll no doubt get at the end of the day.
Post 204: You claim one is not excluxive of the other, yet how can you be confused by a post in the way Fate implied, and yet also be sure of something about the post, in the way Fate implied? Remember, it's the ways he implied them that count, so no "I meant them
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235: Me. Gone. Friends. I ignored nothing. I saw it all. Seriously, don't just jump in out of no where and make that assumption that can only be drawn from the fact that I hadn't responded to any of this new stuff yet. Fate's 225, which I didn't mention in this, was what I expected of Fate when he reached the end of what he was doing. Why? Played with him a lot recently. I don't know where he's going all the time, but I do know that if I wait for the end, it's better than jumping in the middle. Besides, Fate and I were exploring two different paths of scumminess, and following Fate's path isn't the brightest idea. No one is ever going to figure out where that'll end up. His style's too odd.
239: Okay, cut that out. "I'm too busy defending" is not a good defence. The best defense in mafia is a good offense. Meaning if you really wanted to prove how town you are, you'd attack someone you found scummy and prove why that is, instead of spending time split 50/50 between defending and complaining about having to defend.
There. I'm relatively caught up now. MoI, I'm going to be going through Vibe's iso in a bit. I'd been intending to ever since reading your 177. So I'll get back to you on that one.
) But get ready for some walls... hey, you asked...
