Open 263 - The Wild Life [Game Over]

[andrew94]

vote eriynes and if hes not mafia , u guys can lynch the crap out of me tommorrow

that means that even if he is a werewolf, u guys can fck me up.

yes, im this sure

drshotty dies next if im right

[drmyshottyizsik]

guys just read what andrew is saying and lynch the fuck out of him NOW!

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

^ scum- thats what i did in the game where you modded.

Yes, and I saw it as scummy. Doesn't mean that you can't do something as both town (in my modded game) and mafia. You're not giving reasons for why you believe people to be mafia/werewolf/town, which doesn't help.

i just ISO'd andrew, and look what i found. he has talked about his plan for half of his posts, and in the other half, merely said i think this person is scum, this person is town, etc. with NO CASE AT ALL. not even a reason for why someone is ranked more likely town or scum than anyone else. Andrew, please give reasons for your reads on people. Right now, he's looking like a mafia trying to blend in as town.

vote andrew

Your conclusion doesn't match your observations.

I see him as mafia trying to blend in as town, because he is posting reads, and "trying to help" but does not give any reasons for them. So while it may look townish to take a stance on people, and suggest people as mafia, with no proof, it isn't helpful. What I see there is mafia not putting much effort into any cases, but trying out to see who everyone else agrees with/would like to lynch.

@silverbullet

sorry, the wording was a bit confusing. By "posting a decent amount" I meant the quantity of posts was substantial, rather than lurking and only posting once or twice. You make a lot of posts, but there has been a lot of non related content.

[jasonT1981]

Emergancy V/LA... might be going into hospital, waiting to go for docs appointment.. spent last night vomiting blood and severe stomuch pains

[drmyshottyizsik]

Emergancy V/LA... might be going into hospital, waiting to go for docs appointment.. spent last night vomiting blood and severe stomuch pains

and you still think to tell us? wow you are comitted, get better man.

[OpposedForce]

@

OP

- You didn't really say much other than we see this differently and you omgus'd a guy

Alright then how about answering this question: Why do you believe Andrew to me mafia aligned when if his plan were to go through would put mafia at a disadvantage.

Also, who did I OMGUS'd? I gave FOSes but besides that I don't recall omgusing anyone.

vote eriynes and if hes not mafia , u guys can lynch the crap out of me tommorrow

that means that even if he is a werewolf, u guys can fck me up.

yes, im this sure

drshotty dies next if im right

Andrew, instead of expecting people to follow your instinct how about you post legitimate reasons on why you believe him to be anti-town. I still don't understand the case on Eriynes or why he's anti-tow other than to take a leap of faith in following your vote.

Emergancy V/LA... might be going into hospital, waiting to go for docs appointment.. spent last night vomiting blood and severe stomuch pains

Damn. That really sucks. Hope you get better soon. And thanks for posting into the thread despite your condition.

[drmyshottyizsik]

i meant you said I omgus'd a guy. Also Andrews plan gives mafia a better chance at winning then they do right now, think about it, they do not currently have a 40% chance of winning, but after the first day of this plan they will and by the end they will have a 45% chance

[andrew94]

^ no shit, but town also gets more chance to win

[drmyshottyizsik]

yes but seer dies day one. not good. Also actaully we would end up with 3 mafia and 5 town. That gives mafia a WAY better chance of winning compared to 3 against 9... And if one town mislynch was pulled from that plan then mafia WIN!

[drmyshottyizsik]

because mafia know who each other are so on a 3 v 5 where 3 know who is who and 5 are clueless then the 3 will win very easiely when they only need i mislynch

[andrew94]

dude..... the werewolves have 2 of them.
they at least can kill once.
they obs kill mafia

[chkflip]

...

- You guys realize you have Erinyes at

L-2

with absolutely no case on him, right? Simply lynching andrew afterward won't help us any either... what if they're

both

town? What then?

- Shotty, eh, he's beginning to look much less scummy now that he's toned down the posts. He's also at

L-2

.

- Also, here's a thought. What if werewolves

don't

kill mafia and life isn't the big eutopia you want it to be? Then what? We're fucked harder. And harder.

Vote: andrew94

- Your plan is beyond foolish.

[andrew94]

if the werewolves dont kill the mafia then they cant win. idiot

and i can assure you i have a super gut read on erinyes. he is the mafia.
chkflip, no case? he has resorted to lurking. my gut read is good enough. ty

for those, that say im bussing that further emphases the fact that erinyes has to be scum for me to be able to bus

[chkflip]

- You realize that that would mean

you're

scum, right?

- Also, note: what if mafia doesn't come out? Werewolves aim random, kill all.

- lurking? No. Last visited: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:20 am. He simply hasn't been on site.

- Who's the idiot? Oh, the guy throwing out bogus thoughts. Gotit.

[iamausername]

i just ISO'd andrew, and look what i found. he has talked about his plan for half of his posts, and in the other half, merely said i think this person is scum, this person is town, etc. with NO CASE AT ALL. not even a reason for why someone is ranked more likely town or scum than anyone else. Andrew, please give reasons for your reads on people. Right now, he's looking like a mafia trying to blend in as town.

vote andrew

Your conclusion doesn't match your observations.

- How don't they match?

andrew is not remotely trying to 'blend in' with the town. He's quite clearly been drawing attention to himself in a very deliberate way since the game started. I'm not saying that that's a towntell, I think andrew would do that regardless of his alignment, because he obviously likes attention. But I think it's absurd to suggest that he is trying to blend in.

And as far as not giving reasons goes, he's hardly the only one doing that, as you have in fact noted yourself, so I'd like to know why smashbro is singling him out on that point.

- What's your case against Erinyes?

I'd like Guthrie to field this question, because his is the one vote on the Erinyes wagon that feels off to me. I'll happily explain why I think Erinyes is scum afterwards, but I want to see Guthrie make a case first, if he doesn't mind.

- What do you think about the cases against andrew and shotty thus far?

There's no case against andrew, just people calling for a policy lynch. Hell with that. The case against shotty is a lot better (specifically, jason has a strong meta argument), but I dislike most of the way that wagon grew.

- If you had a daykill, who would you use it on? Why?

Well, if I had that option, I'd save it for now, because Erinyes is being replaced, and it would obviously be worth seeing what the replacement has to say before taking him down.

vote: Erinyes

I believe you Andrew~

Nice vote hop. You going to give any real reasons for your votes or just going to keep subtly jumping from one vote to another?

Could you define the world 'subtle' for me?

I see him as mafia trying to blend in as town, because blah blah blah

Are you using the word mafia when you mean generic scum, or are you saying you think he's specifically mafia and not werewolf?

- You guys realize you have Erinyes at L-2 with absolutely no case on him, right? Simply lynching andrew afterward won't help us any either... what if they're both town? What then?

I don't know about anyone else, but I have no intention of lynching andrew afterwards if it turns out I'm wrong about Erinyes. And since all but one of the votes on Erinyes came

before

andrew made his silly "lynch me if I'm wrong" post, I would be surprised if I'm alone in that.

Also, I have a case on Erinyes, I just haven't told anyone what it is yet.

[jasonT1981]

slowly getting back on my feet.. got diagnosed with food poisioning and a burst blood vessel. Not as serious as I thought but still groggy on it.

going to have a look back later but Andrew is all over the place here, again this is normal for Andrew though his 187 seems almost like something scum would do.. not entirely sure on Andrew still though...its bloody erratic. Will try and post more later/tomorrow when I get back to full fitness

[chkflip]

@mod:

- Players who go for more than 72 hours will be prodded. If you are prodded and do not respond within 24 hours, you will be replaced.

- ...Erinyes hasn't been on in a week.

[iamausername]

@mod:

- Players who go for more than 72 hours will be prodded. If you are prodded and do not respond within 24 hours, you will be replaced.

- ...Erinyes hasn't been on in a week.

He's on it.

[chkflip]

D'oh!

Now I feel like an asshole. My apologies, Kunk.

[chkflip]

@iamausername:
- I would've responded to you first, but I'm currently writing an english compare/contrast paper. No fun. [/whinecomplain]

- I think andrew

is

trying to blend in as town in his own unconventional way. Shoving tells around without any rhyme or reason seems like a man that doesn't want to have to explain himself; furthermore, it shows (especially with his blatant disregard to see anyone else's side) that he's deathly attempting to push this mislynch.

- Fair enough, we'll wait for Guthrie.

- The PL bit was a joke, people want him lynched for actual reasons now. I've stated some... as have others.

- You don't like how the shotty train grew? Elaborate, please.

@jason:
- Good to hear. That last post was a bit worrisome.

[andrew94]

@iamusername i already said you could lynch me if im wrong.

chklip stop soft defending.

[chkflip]

@andrew:
- I'm not defending anybody, I'm calling

you

scum.

[drmyshottyizsik]

please someone hammer him,,, wait has he claimed?

[parknourie]

I think Andrew is not scum.

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok, so you just called him town... please say why?