Mini 1049 - Hide and Seek Mafia - FINAL Kablooie!

[Ellibereth]

wait.

unvote

hihihi

[SpyreX]

Why you gotta be a tease?

Of course *gasp* that would have been a sapo-camn hammer BUT AT LEAST IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

[Ellibereth]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SPY.
I know you hate meta and stuff but can you just appease me.
Have you ever replacement bashed as town before in the past???

It won't stop bothering me

[SpyreX]

I'm pretty sure its happened before. I don't have a concrete example in front of me (and my wiki is WAY out of date - and I should probably add games I replaced into huh).

But, regardless of if I did or didn't in the past as town or scum you know better than that mr.

If you're gonna condemn me for that you man up and do it based on THIS game.

While you're here though, have you really said what you think about my Ice bidness?

[Ellibereth]

Okay.

Vote:Yerk

What does bidness mean >.>

[SpyreX]

Mostly my calling out the teaparty on "SpyreX is scum because of the Kat/Pom lynches" versus his being a part of Pom and cheerleading the hell out of Kat.

Not the meta. GOD, not that. I should have known better than to look the beast in the eyes.

[Ellibereth]

I'm pretending to know what's going on.
I just need a flip to get me some grounding again tbh...

[SpyreX]

Well, with the battle lines drawn thus, if camn is scum its gonna be a whole mess of "OHH LOOK AT SPYREX FLALALALA" tomorrow.
If camn isn't and I have to fight the machine AGAIN to get Ice lynched I'm gonna explode.

On the plus side I can not see both of them as scum together so thats something good from a scum flip here whichever way it goes.

[SpyreX]

I guess line one would apply to you too. Sooo

[Iecerint]

Hmm. I guess I should claim, then?

I'm a light sleeper, which should be pretty obvious to anyone paying attention.

1. No one slept in my room N1 or N2.
2. N3 Pomegranate and NP both slept in my room. This is why I told camn that I thought they couldn't be scum together. It's also part of why I've been leaning camnscum, because NP could only be scum-that-doesn't-set-bombs, whereas camn can be either remaining scumslot, so the prior probability that she is scum is greater. Together with the Vezok wagon, I wanted to lynch camn.
3. N4 no one slept in my room.

[mikeburnfire]

This game has taken a very interesting turn. Although I'd prefer a camn lynch, obviously, I can't say an icerint lynch would break my heart, since he would have been my next suspect tomorrow regardless of camn's flip. Giving Sapo the deciding vote may not be the best idea, given her erratic behavior as of late.

[camn]

It's all about saporos integrity now, no?

Will she honor her agreement by supporting a non-camn lynch?
Is she still terrified of being on my mislynch?

This is an interesting pickle.

[nopointinactingup]

Camn, if you are town then I really don't understand the reasoning behind you thinking that I'm town for pushing for your lynch.
Iec is telling the truth about being a Light Sleeper.

[Ellibereth]

WHY WOULD IT HAVE BEEN PRETTY OBVIOUS TO ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION.

[Iecerint]

It should be obvious because:

1. I have evidenced really disproportionate interest in the light sleeper mechanic (though I've self-consciously tried to censor a lot of this out of my actual posts).
2. I kept pointing out an evasive "man I don't think NP or Pome are scumfriends camn that just seems so weird to me!" thing N3 that I refused to clarify other than like cf. "interactions." Camn picked up on this and kept asking about it, so it wouldn't have been easily missed.

camn's decision to frame this for saporo in terms of "honoring her agreement" as a function of her "integrity" is scummy. Saporo should lynch scum rather than base it on a very silly "lynch me by Saturday" mess camn made up a few weeks ago.

[camn]

All townies should honor gameplay agreements.

Nopoint: I don't think you would have the guts to stay on a mislynch... Which you would know that this is as scum.
Maybe I'm wrong about you.. But that is my impression.

[camn]

Plus: nobody made Saporo agree to my terms. She did it on her own. Nothing silly about it.

[SpyreX]

I thought camn was scum for changing her mind on NP?

Ohh man I can't keep up

[camn]

Obv, due to the crap nature of the case against me, ANYTHING I do is why I am scum.

Obv.

[Iecerint]

Earlier today, you thought the case on you was good, if equivalent to hypothetical cases on me or NP. Now you are the victim of a crap case.

[camn]

Earlier today, you thought the case on you was good, if equivalent to hypothetical cases on me or NP. Now you are the victim of a crap case.

HA!.. now you are just making things up.
I am going to request a quote here.. because as far as I can remember.. that is untrue.
Sure, I think that the Logic behind POE on the Vezo wagon is good.....
I also actually support lynching ME to narrow the pool of veso-voters...... but how on earth are you contesting that

I AGREED WITH THE CASE ON ME??

let me recap some of my positions lately:

Burnfire: play better! Your entire case is IioA!

Now, can we get on with things? Your case sucks.

Can you grind out the day fabricating crapcases and jumping on everything I say... and eventually pull a deadline lynch on me? Sure.

.. Fighting off crap case after crap case...

You are scrambling, ICE.
Your armor has holes in it.
You are reaching for anything to save you.
Why dont you just tell us who your partner is?

[Iecerint]

Sure, I think that the Logic behind POE on the Vezo wagon is good.....
I also actually support lynching ME to narrow the pool of veso-voters...... but how on earth are you contesting that I AGREED WITH THE CASE ON ME??

The case on you as I presented it is derived from your presence on the Vezo wagon. Hence, you agree with the case on you (i.e. you think it's a valid case, rather than a crap case).

The extra piece of evidence against you (that didn't come out until my claim) is that NP (the other vez wagoner) is mathematically half as likely to be scum as you, because he hid in my room N3. You haven't necessarily agreed with that part, admittedly, but it's simple math, and NP has confirmed that he hid with me N3.

If you have already complained about a crap case before, that is more evidence that your complaint is rhetoric rather than analysis. I know this because you agree with the Vezok wagon PoE.

Nice SX impression at the end there.

[mikeburnfire]

Spyrex, there are many reasons why camn is scum, most of them revolving around her ambivalence towards who scum is. I don't fault Icerint for having more than one reason, or adding reasons as he sees them. Most recently, in the post above me, it looks like camn is pushing an icerint lynch in order to save herself. The way she harasses sapo is also a desperate attempt to not die (or bussing, I dunno).

[SpyreX]

I almost hammered camn out of spite right here.

Because I'm still thinking you are town in this mess MBF and holding onto this means its never going to go away. Seriously, if you switch the names in your paragraph it PRETTY MUCH WORKS BOTH WAYS.

But, nope, can't do it. If I'm not wrong I honestly hope you're scum with Ice.

[camn]

OK, Ice... riddle me this.

I have systematically claimed where I hid every night.
It is a given that I can NOT have any knowledge of whether or not a player is a light sleeper or not (except the case of my hypo-scumpartners)
Can you see me risking being caught lying about that?
I can't. Not as scum or town.

Thus, one can very reasonably assume that all of my Hide-claims are true. Even the fact that I hid in Burnfire's room last night.

Given that assumption.. the 'mathematical likeliness' of which you speak evaporates, no?

PLease.. respond with logic.. not nonsense.

IN FACT.. you have admitted that you stayed in your room EVERY NIGHT... which according to YOUR MATH makes you MORE likely to be scum, from an outside perspective... right?