Mini 1077 Lost: Season Two (Over)

[Stephoscope]

Well, I'm not claiming. But I want Call and Magna to fullclaim RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Also, the hatch thing isn't what switched my alignment. I already told you what switches my alignment. If vezok is telling the truth, we may have caught a scum.

So please make it very clear for a moron like me.

You become scum if you are recruited?

Well, if the scumteam is able to recruit others, how are you different from anyone else who would be recruited?

And, if you advertised that you could be recruited by scum, exactly what reason would there be for scum not to do just that?

[gandalf5166]

I don't get recruited by scum. I get recruited by a certain member of the town targeting me.

[Callandor]

^^really fucking bizzare.

Stethoscope completely ignoring the 1/1 between me and Magna is absolutely fucking baffling to say the least.

Me claiming doesn't do a lot, but it doesn't hinder either; Claire, I'm an ascetic, what this means is that any active abillities (apart from kills) used on me will fail. This was what I was intending to hint at at the end of day 1, as it's a very anti town power. The reason for my apparent abillity is that Claire is cute as a button but so cute as to stop herself being able to be killed/lynched.

[gandalf5166]

Oh dammit. Scum is no longer caught. However, you haven't told us about the supercop OR the watcher power that you've been softclaiming.

[dramonic]

ascetic supercop.
of course <<

[Faraday]

Either dramonic can't fucking read or his Magna's scumbuddy. I don't really care which (they're alsonot mutually exclusive), both are pretty shockingly bad for the game.

I'm not an 'ascetic supercop', I'm an ascetic. I got a supercop abillity as a result of the hatch explosion (I actually thought the hatch imploded Reck, in the show)

I never 'softclaimed' a supercop abillity, I've flat out stated where/how/why, the watcher (actually meant it as a tracker) thing was a gambit, but I realised even someone like vezok on his worst day probably wouldn't fall for it.

Hey dram why don't you believe me?

[Callandor]

^^^^ ME.

[gandalf5166]

I'm sorry, is there some flavor thing I'm missing?

[Callandor]

Seriously any scenario where I'm scum is so unlikely:
The only way this gambit actually works for scum is in a 3/3 split with a town vig, and even then I don't actually need to pull it as the vig can be killed through process of elimination.

2/1/3 makes no sense for scum/3rd party in this position. I've literally walked you through why it's obvious I'm not scum, this is stupid.

Everyone seems to be ignoring Magna asking Gandalf for a draw. I mean his explanation is fucking garbage as if mafia aren't lynched today town can't control their fate, even with a killing or non killing 3rd party, and it's clearly something he made up after he was called out on it by me.

Vote Magna.

EBWOP : What do you mean? The hatch explosion gave me the powers, I assume it's supposed to be like the fact Desmond got powers on the show after the hatch exploded (he could see the future, or a possible future)

[Callandor]

There's no flavour in my pm, it states I got it because I was near the explosion and then goes on to describe the abillity.

[gandalf5166]

Okay, that makes more sense, see? Although it makes me wonder why I lost powers instead of gaining them. That said, I have one last question: How was your guilty worded? More precisely, is it possible that MoI is third party?

[Faraday]

I already explained this I'm p sure, but yeah I get 'guilty' or 'non guilty'. So , sure, it's theoretically possible but I think it's unlikely or he'd have been bumrushed by the actual mafia by now.

[Callandor]

Me again, sorry Reck.

[gandalf5166]

True. Scum WOULD want to lynch TP. Unless they have some weird paranoia that I'm fakeclaiming traitor and MoI is the real one. >.>

That said, I'm not sure I really believe that you have a "supercop".

It just plain doesn't make sense.

[dramonic]

Either dramonic can't fucking read or his Magna's scumbuddy. I don't really care which (they're alsonot mutually exclusive), both are pretty shockingly bad for the game.

I'm not an 'ascetic supercop', I'm an ascetic. I got a supercop abillity as a result of the hatch explosion (I actually thought the hatch imploded Reck, in the show)

Hey dram why don't you believe me?

I know you're not an ascetic supercop. You're an ascetic claiming to have been affected by an effect that is not that of a kill (granted, it's flavoury). I don't have a specific reason to quickwagon with you yet, especially with the new claim from Vezok and how/what it could develop from Magna/you action-wise.

[Faraday]

Yet you just said I was indeed an ascetic supercop.

Oh wow don't be so bad the hatch explosion clearly isn't an direct action by another player. Since when is a hatch explosion an active abillity? Cmon dram you're clutching at straws here.

Vezok's claim has no impact on anything though, he claimed to direct Magna to me. Actually gandalf that rules out magna as a killing third party, I'd be dead if he was.

[Faraday]

True. Scum WOULD want to lynch TP. Unless they have some weird paranoia that I'm fakeclaiming traitor and MoI is the real one. >.>

I don't understand why they'd care.

That said, I'm not sure I really believe that you have a "supercop".

It just plain doesn't make sense.

In what way do my actions make sense as scum though?

[Faraday]

replacing myself b/c I'm lazy.

[dramonic]

Yet you just said I was indeed an ascetic supercop.

Failure to grasp sarcasm. I find the current town claims to be overly powerful when added with the dead ones.

[dramonic]

also you're really bad at this whole alt thing

[Faraday]

overly powerful compared to what?

i was doing pretty well untill jason blew himsefl up though. although I thought it was really obvious who I was, since i'd specifically said i was gonna use a mr eko avatar next time but that's btb.

[vezokpiraka]

Ohhhhhhh. I see now. Faraday is callandor. I knew there was something missing here.

Faraday. Are you kidding me? Claiming a guilty on Magna with a cop that can't be blocked and get fooled?After we saw a cop flip?

You are going down.

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vote faraday

[MagnaofIllusion]

Thanksgiving has taken up all my time lately. I’ll have time to put a full post and response to Call’s and others comments tonight after 9pm EST.

But as they say in journalism you don’t bury the lead and something struck me right as I was drifting off to sleep last night.

I missed this the first time through when I responded but wanted to make sure everyone had it brought to their attention.

+ a 3rd party SK who's kill didn't go through Night 1? Not impossible. Although less likely.

How in the hell does Call / Faraday know for certain that it was the SK / other role (perhaps Vig?) that didn’t go through Night 1? With a second killing role why isn’t it possible the Mafia kill didn’t go through?

The answer is that Call / Faraday knows the Mafia kill went through N1 because HE’S SCUM. Scum slip right there.

[Faraday]

3rd party aim for scum, dekes was obv town and obv not a 3rd party kill. Look at last night where toon fighter was killed, he was obviously the non mafia kill too.

Keep ignoring your calling Gandalf for a draw though, too busy to respond to your failed ploy being called out. I understand.

[Faraday]

Ohhhhhhh. I see now. Faraday is callandor. I knew there was something missing here.

Faraday. Are you kidding me? Claiming a guilty on Magna with a cop that can't be blocked and get fooled?After we saw a cop flip?

You are going down.

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vote faraday

So explain why I as scum would do that you fucking idiot?