Consulmaker II: the Pyrrhic War - Game over.

[SensFan]

Note how several others have pointed out that I'm being scummy/stupid/etc. Notice how I haven't executed them twice within about 14 hours.

[chesskid3]

Oh so you only omgus selected people, congratulations. Want a fucking medal?

[SensFan]

You keep using that word. I am not sure it means what you think it means.

[chesskid3]

Morons aren't allowed to quote from TPB.

[Jack]

@mod:find a replacement for chesskid (or me)

[scotmany12]

I don't believe it's a deflection. I happen to be strongly in favour of policy lynches, and this one seems to be an even better policy than the zwets ones of old. chesskid has admitted to being a "scummy VI" and hasn't shown anything to the contrary, so I don't see how I at least will ever be able to have a read on him. Therefore, coupled with his bragging about how he plans to coast today, and his continued attempts to egg me on, I absolutely want him executed today. Besides, do you disagree that it would have been very telling and informative if one of the Tribunals had immediately vetoed him?
As for pressuring me, feel free. I have nothing against it, and it won't affect my decision-making for today. You should know that I've already decided to play D1 in a way that I'm fully aware I would never get away with if I wasn't a Consul, though. I've been given immunity from lynching today, and I plan to fully abuse it to help me make a decision on who I want executed. To quote Tom from Survivor: "Tonight we make our move. Tomorrow we make our apologies."

It absolutely was a deflection. Ignoring pretty much everything I said and asking me if chesskid has been useful at all. As for you wanting him executed, that isn't the bad part. Its the fact that you wanted to execute him the first opportunity you had. I agree with you that it would have been very telling had one of the tribunals vetoed him immediately. However, I do not think that was your intention. You can say all you want about never doing any of this if you weren't console, but the it still doesn't change that your actions of late have been scummy.

On a different note, we need more input from:
Pretty much everyone but Sens, Jack, Primate, Chamber and Nathanael.

Mod: Can't we get some prods?

And I'm going to bed now.

[SensFan]

I have a feeling debating about this won't be too productive, so I'll just address one part of it for now. If you want me to respond to the rest, let me know.

Its the fact that you wanted to execute him the first opportunity you had. I agree with you that it would have been very telling had one of the tribunals vetoed him immediately. However, I do not think that was your intention.

I think you'll find that I was able to answer Nathan's question immedately about if I could veto the execution. What reason would I have for having asked the Mod beforehand, if not that I wanted to make sure I could veto the chesskid execution? And if so, that suggests I was not, in fact, looking to get a quick execution.

[chesskid3]

Whatever. I gave you a chance.

I hereby waive my right to veto this execution.

My name is SensFan and I am a huge liar.

[SpyreX]

I didn't get caught up here near enough and I am going to a football game tomorrow but:

The last page and a half makes me hurt inside. Just. Stop.

The only gem is this:

On a different note, we need more input from:
Pretty much everyone but Sens, Jack, Primate, Chamber and Nathanael.
Mod: Can't we get some prods?

Its less a gem and more a mystical diamond made from evil but hey if someone wants to dance the dance I'll get to it.

[Katsuki]

Chesskid is giving me headaches.

I have yet to read this game due to holidays. One more party tmr, and then finals over the next two weeks. I will try and stay on top of this game though.

[Nathanael]

I do believe I announced in thread many pages ago that I was going to coast today, yesh?

when are you going to stop coasting?

Also, what he did say about the consulmaker thing indicated that he thought it was simple, we should just "lynch one and if he's town lynch the other" or something like that. Which would be a very short day of course.

this is total hypocrisy. you are comparing two totally different things and drawing totally crappy conclusions.

FoS: Jack

Yes. I submitted an execution after double-checking with the Mod to make sure there was no downside to it, since I could veto it myself. If you have a problem with that, you might as well extend your brush to include Nathan and chamber; both posted without immediately vetoing the execution.

What about this do you really mean?

Also, for old time's sake;

Glrok: chesskid

stop it.

VETO: chesskid's execution

.

I'm getting closer and closer to the "chesskid or no one" ultimatum, actually.

STOP THIS CRAP!
while I can understand the early pressuring by execution-threat this is going way to far.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Okay, I'm issuing a warning to chesskid3 and SensFan. You two are spamming up the thread and making it unreadable for others. I will force-replace if this behaviour doesn't end.

And I'll send some prods.

[SensFan]

Yes. I submitted an execution after double-checking with the Mod to make sure there was no downside to it, since I could veto it myself. If you have a problem with that, you might as well extend your brush to include Nathan and chamber; both posted without immediately vetoing the execution.

What about this do you really mean?

Also, for old time's sake;

Glrok: chesskid

stop it.

VETO: chesskid's execution

.

I'm getting closer and closer to the "chesskid or no one" ultimatum, actually.

STOP THIS CRAP!
while I can understand the early pressuring by execution-threat this is going way to far.

1) I mean that I only submitted the execution after checking I could veto it

2) I'll stop trying to execute him if and when he stops being a complete useless dumbass

3) Again, if he doesn't show he's capable of actually playing Mafia, I will do everything I can to have him executed on D1. Up to and including an ultimatum.

[Powerrox93]

I'm back from my mini vacation now.
Will start re-reading this threads ASAP

[dramonic]

Again Sens, I understand your frustration at Chesskid3's incredible usefulness, but even though he's a twat he's still town. Bad, annoying, frustrating town, but he is. You're town too, do the right thing and off someone who has actual odds at being scum.

@Chess: Sorry pumpkin, but even though you claim to be unstable meta-wise, you're predictable. Stop experimenting and start playing.

@SpyreX: By dance the dance you mean...? ._.

[chesskid3]

oh god a talking owl

[Nathanael]

Again Sens, I understand your frustration at Chesskid3's incredible usefulness, but even though he's a twat he's still town. Bad, annoying, frustrating town, but he is. You're town too, do the right thing and off someone who has actual odds at being scum.

@Chess: Sorry pumpkin, but even though you claim to be unstable meta-wise, you're predictable. Stop experimenting and start playing.

@SpyreX: By dance the dance you mean...? ._.

why do you think that SensFan is town?

[Powerrox93]

The only thing that I can say right now.

Chesskid3 should die. He's overreacting so much that I can't think of any other scenario then the one that he's scum.

[SensFan]

More importantly, what makes you think I'm Scum? The fact I'm actually interested in lynching the absolute useless dumbass making such fantastic posts as "oh god a talking owl"?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Chesskid3 is being replaced. Spamming right after I tell him not to shows a clear disregard for the other players and my authority.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Parama replaces chesskid3.

[SensFan]

Parama has a clean slate from me, for what its worth.

[Parama]

I've been reading along but haven't done much in the way of looking for scum myself (few have).
I'll reread and see what I can come up with.

[dramonic]

Well, the bad thing is I can't read Parama AFAIK
The good thing is that Chess was so obvtown that I wont have to

[Parama]

and by reread I mean when I ACTUALLY reread tomorrow