Fringe Mafia (Game Over, role PMs posted)

[PogoStick]

hello, when are these other guys going to post

[PogoStick]

Mod any luck replacing Shattered Viewpoint yet?

[PogoStick]

@Mod:

With deepest apologies, I am going to have to

ask to be replaced.

Reality has burst through (yet again) with things that desperately need my attention.

Beep.

in case you missed it mod

[smargaret]

I'm back, I'm catching up. I do want to hear some more from TM, who seems to be in as much danger of tunnelling as Empking, and we haven't heard anything from Primate yet, but this thread is honestly hard to get into. In other words, /halfhearted proddodge. Sorry.

[Doombunny9]

@Mod: Prod on Primate?

[Zang]

Im also here and you can expect another huge wall of text tomorrow.

[TonyMontana]

TM:

7. claims to have reads on other scum, claims he actually has 4 scum reads however he won't share them with anyone

Thoughts? Specific thoughts on this specific claim.

But make sure you read this before responding, this supports my #7

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p2643292

The claim seems to be true? Am i missing the reason you are harping on that point?

[Empking]

TM:

7. claims to have reads on other scum, claims he actually has 4 scum reads however he won't share them with anyone

Thoughts? Specific thoughts on this specific claim.

But make sure you read this before responding, this supports my #7

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p2643292

The claim seems to be true? Am i missing the reason you are harping on that point?

TM: Stop tunelling. I think that you

know

who my four scum reads are on. I've mentioned them time and time again. Plus if you wren't tunelling so you'd know that Hop was just quoting random posts rather than proving anything.

DB: Who are the four players I think are scum?

[TonyMontana]

I honestly do not know what you want from me, emp

[PogoStick]

@emp, the issue is not who your scum reads are like I said, the issue is you refuse to make cases on any of them

How is TM tunneling anyway?

[PogoStick]

And I didn't quote "random posts". I quoted posts you made regarding the subject of you refusing to provide your info

[Empking]

@emp, the issue is not who your scum reads are like I said, the issue is you refuse to make cases on any of them

7. claims to have reads on other scum, claims he actually has 4 scum reads however he won't share them with anyone

i'm not going to discuss this any more. Reading through DB's posts I'm pretty sure I was wrong about GW and TM.

[PogoStick]

Well atleast you have realized you are caught

More votes on emp please

[PogoStick]

Emp you are looking too much into the poor wording of my sentence, I'm harping on the fact that you refuse to post your cases on the people you find scummy, I'm not talking about your refusal to list the named of them

[Primate]

@Mod: Prod on Primate?

Yeah, this is legitimate, sorry. I've been reading the thread today, currently I'm halfway through day 2. I'll throw my hat in and start participating properly tomorrow. I have some views, but I don't really want to say anything until they are a bit more solid.

[esuriospiritus]

Shattered Viewpoint will be replaced. (siiigh.)

[Doombunny9]

DB: Who are the four players I think are scum?

Me, HOMJ, SV, and Ghost. Why did you feel the need to ask me this?

[quote"Emp"]i'm not going to discuss this any more. Reading through DB's posts I'm pretty sure I was wrong about GW and TM.[/quote]

What about my posts made you change your mind?

[smargaret]

1. Empking and Hop, back away slowly. I know you both think the other one is scum, but we've gotten that point and what you're doing now is stifling discussion from everyone else. We literally have discussed nothing else today because it's getting lost in the morass of posts from the two of you.

2. Hop, you're not the activity police. Why are you trying to look pro-town?

3. Empking needs to post a case on at least one other player. There are three scum out there, you have four scumreads, and you've revealed who they are - saying why you think so for one of them isn't going to take too much time and will give us all something new to discuss. I'm sorry, but I just got out of a game where lack of discussion led to an easy mafia victory, and I'm kicking myself over it.

4. Zang, weren't we supposed to get a wall from you today?

5. Doombunny, you've posted a lot of what looks like defense against Empking's mention of suspicion. Why does it feel to me like you're overreacting?

I have the feeling this game will be much easier once replacements have been found/are caught up. At least, I certainly hope so.

[PogoStick]

smargaret, I am not "trying" to look anything. I am playing the way I play. lack of activity is what makes these games boring and these days drag on forever when they don't have to. Emp is clearly scum yet nobody is around to do anything about it

[Empking]

DB: Who are the four players I think are scum?

Me, HOMJ, SV, and Ghost. Why did you feel the need to ask me this?

To make certain that I was clear and that both TM and Hop are lying (rather than being mistaken) when they say that I haven't given them.

[quote"Emp"]i'm not going to discuss this any more. Reading through DB's posts I'm pretty sure I was wrong about GW and TM.

What about my posts made you change your mind?[/quote]

You went from Hop to GW. It seems unlikely that you'd move from bussing Hop to bussing another member of your scum team.

Smarge: DB caee coming in a minute.

[Empking]

Smarge: 1. DB had Hop as his to suspect but came up with a BS reason not to vote. (post 29)
2. He's now done a complete u-turn on Hop. Defending him at every opportunity.
3. Hop's and DB's coordinated strikes to annoy me.
4. DB always generally agreeing with Hop but when asked about specifics always disagreeing with him.
5. Hop's ignoring a point I made against him in order to leave it to DB to defend him about it.
6. DB defending him on that point.
7. Hop changing his mind on that point quickly as soon as DB was on in order to tell him to pull a u-turn.
8. Until recently, DB and Hop coordinated to keep their votes off the same player today.

[PogoStick]

Emp you are looking too much into the poor wording of my sentence, I'm harping on the fact that you refuse to post your cases on the people you find scummy, I'm not talking about your refusal to list the named of them

[PogoStick]

Emp, if it makes you feel better I have noticed DB seems to just follow instead of make his own cases

But you have done nothing still to show your town motivation

[Empking]

Emp you are looking too much into the poor wording of my sentence, I'm harping on the fact that you refuse to post your cases on the people you find scummy, I'm not talking about your refusal to list the named of them

A player's reaction to poor wording; My bad, I meant X.
A player's reaction to a caught lie that he thinks he can wriggle out of: No look at these quote.
A player's reaction when he knows he can't wriggle out of the lie despite trying to: You such and I mean X (Ignore those five post previously where I made it clear that I meant Y like I said.)

[PogoStick]

Dude it's obvious i have been on you for refusing to share your READS on people

Stop the straw man