Newbie 1022 - Game Over

[Kingcheese]

No I believe TL is town. He came off a little strong for me during day 1. But the back and forth banter between him and Leech def looks town on town to me. I also believe the admitting to lying post seems to have town intentions however it could also be scum trying to save his ass after screwing up.

I'm confident that even if I'm lynched the town will pull through. I haven't done the best of painting myself as your pro town member however I believe I've done enough to show my thoughts on who's scum.

[AurorusVox]

I'm not convinced that if you think Shotty is scum, that you'd then think TL is town. This smells a little fishy to me, but at this stage, and the fact that you've claimed already, I'm happy to let that small fish be the straw that mixed my metaphor.

KC, could you give your top

three

scum reads, in order?

[VasudeVa]

This is really bad. I'm having some problems with my internet, and I have doubts I'll be here for hammer-age. Leech still isn't posting, and his input is the one I'm most interested in(due to my Town TL read.). And I'm really waiting on him to answer so we can discuss a DP lynch(who I think is the best lynch for this phase.).

DP's #420 really has set me from 'I like his lynch' to 'Die!'. Whether or not KC is scum, there should be no reason to continuously put him down like that without even reading KC's posts. I've given him the pass for his earlier 'Shut it KC' posts, but he has crossed the line. Adding with his inherently malicious play(lynch hungryness) + Eggy's horribad fencesit, I'm way more comfortable with his lynch now.

V/LA until internet gets fixd

[AurorusVox]

VV, you think switching the wagon away from a claimed VT the DAY before the deadline, with Leech not posting and TL not having expressed a desire to vote DP, is really the best lynch for this phase?

[TheLonging]

I'm not expressing a desire to vote anyone because I'm confident in my vote.

[AurorusVox]

TL, does that mean that you won't be hammering KC either?

[Vel-Rahn Koon]

Official Vote Count

Leech - 1 (TheLonging)
Kingcheese - 3 (drmyshottyizsik, DavidParker, AurorusVox)
TheLonging - 1 (Leech)
DavidParker - 2 (Kingcheese, VasudeVa)

Not Voting - 0 ()

4 to Lynch.

Click for Deadline

[TheLonging]

I would, but I am not as confident with a KC vote as I am with a Leech vote. If anything, I feel a DP more, but none of those as strong as this (Unless anyone has any reason for me to switch to either of those 2 besides the cases on there).

[AurorusVox]

To avoid a NL? You don't have the support for a Leech vote today.

[TheLonging]

But my Leech vote shows how confident I am. If it's 3 votes it's a NL? Hold on, I don't want a NL

[TheLonging]

I'm confident in this Leech vote, on the other hand, NL. Hmm, give me a bit to decide here

[DavidParker]

Vote: Leech

More likely scum than KC at this poitn, although I still have a strong read on KC-scum.

[TheLonging]

Your support for the Leech wagon is appreciated, and duly noted.

[DavidParker]

I was expecting people to find it scummy. Well maybe not you.

[TheLonging]

"duly noted"

It implies that I find it odd that you're switching wagons.

[Kingcheese]

I'm not convinced that if you think Shotty is scum, that you'd then think TL is town. This smells a little fishy to me, but at this stage, and the fact that you've claimed already, I'm happy to let that small fish be the straw that mixed my metaphor.

KC, could you give your top

three

scum reads, in order?

DavidParker
Shotty
Vas

I believe Dp is the most scummy canditate and his potential scum buddie could be shotty(likely) or vas(not as likely)

The recent "buddying" and the fact they both adopted the same strategy of: Don't answer KC's nearly worthless questions because it somehow paints me as town, kind of seals it for me. I've had a lingering feeling on Vas going back to my mister neutral posts but I don't really have any evidence saying: Vas is scum because of this. So I'm obviously not sure about it. Vox as taken part in scum hunting but in my eyes hasen't set himself apart from the others regarding his alignment. Leech and TL seem town to me.

I'm kinda of puzzled by DP's vote hop. It's not likely a Leech vote will happen at this stage. The only pro town reason you would vote Leech is because he believes he is more scummier than myself which he did note. However he notes he still finds me scummy. Now if he was scum as I believe, it seems as if he is trying to push a NL.

Dp does say he finds Leech more scummy than me in his justification. I understand we are cutting it close to deadline but why do you find Leech scummier than me, especially so close to the deadline where it would be simpler to go with a candidtate much more likely to be hammered

that you still find scummy

?

[TheLonging]

OK, I'm going to do something drastic.

I want to work out the odds of NL working.

Because DP switching to Leech, while appreciated, sets off SO many alarm bells in my head, it's fucking crazy.

unvote

[AurorusVox]

TL: NL is awful for the town. If we NL, scum kills tonight, that plumps us in MYLO tomorrow, so we'll be forced to NL again. That gives scum another free NK without fear of getting lynched. And then we're slap-bang in LYLO with no leads because we've only seen the flips that the scum want. We ought to lynch today, with the chance of hitting scum. Even if we end up in LYLO tomorrow, it's better that we have the flips that

we

want.

Vote: DavidParker

L-1.

DP's vote for Leech is scummy enough to make me switch my vote to him despite my reservations about the deadline and KC's claim. There is no way Leech was getting enough votes to get lynched today; I believe his plan was to frame it so that TL said "Oh hey, look, DP is voting for Leech, he must be pro-town, but quick, let's both vote for KC to avoid the NL." And if TL did opt to continue pushing the Leech lynch, it would likely end with a NL, which as I've shown above, is AWFUL for town but great for scum (the fact that TL is considering allowing it to slide is actually very disturbing).

I now support the DP lynch more than the KC one, but will switch back to KC to secure a lynch at deadline if the alternative is an NL.

[TheLonging]

I KIND OF considered it to slide because he supported a Leech lynch, even if it's bussing it's good because I highly suspect Leech. But I want DP to claim, NOW. I want to hammer him. If I believe his claim, Leech or KC are the lynches today.

[TheLonging]

OK I guess I'll just hammer when I wake up before I go to school. We have time.

[drmyshottyizsik]

i'll hammer in 1 hour just saying

[TheLonging]

You're going to hammer without a claim? Really?

[drmyshottyizsik]

in one hour yes, isn't DL tonight?

Shotty, this is why you get labeled with the Village Idiot tag and people want to Policy Lynch you on page 1. There's a link to the deadline in EVERY SINGLE VOTE COUNT. Try paying attention to the game please.

~Vel

[TheLonging]

DL is 8 AM EST

[TheLonging]

and it's 11:45 am EST, I can wake up tomorrow, read his claim, if he doesn't claim, I'm going to hammer him regardless because NL IS terrible, but I'd rather read the claim