Mini 1082 (Guns and Ropes: Midland): An Unfaithful Ending.

[Mizzy]

Okay, I'm starting to really feel uncomfortable about Rice. He's voting Moose, and while I agree that Moose just needs to learn a bit more about the game, I'm now in the camp that he is just...inexperienced...and not scummy persay. I feel that Rice is using Moose as a scapegoat here and is being hypocritical. I re-read a bit and could not find anywhere that showed Rice scumhunting himself. IMO, voting Moose is a wasted vote and he's just trying to fly under the radar.

Vote: Riceballtail

[Mizzy]

Oh, as a side note, I will be V/LoA Dec 3-6. Texas here I come

[Riceballtail]

Okay, I'm starting to really feel uncomfortable about Rice. He's voting Moose, and while I agree that Moose just needs to learn a bit more about the game, I'm now in the camp that he is just...inexperienced...and not scummy persay. I feel that Rice is using Moose as a scapegoat here and is being hypocritical. I re-read a bit and could not find anywhere that showed Rice scumhunting himself. IMO, voting Moose is a wasted vote and he's just trying to fly under the radar.

Vote: Riceballtail

Moose joined the site over a year ago.

Moose has played enough games, and made enough posts in said games, to get the default "Mafia Scum" title to his name (which I believe is 500 posts).

Moose is constantly rolefishing, and has yet to even DENY it.

We're lynching Moose, then you for being an obvious scumbuddy.

[Mizzy]

Moose joined the site over a year ago.

Moose has played enough games, and made enough posts in said games, to get the default "Mafia Scum" title to his name (which I believe is 500 posts).

Moose is constantly rolefishing, and has yet to even DENY it.

We're lynching Moose, then you for being an obvious scumbuddy.

You should know that neither length of time on the site or post count means nothing when it comes to being "good" at playing. (You can post in the off-topic places as well as in games.)

You aren't scumhunting, he has NEVER rolefished, he's just running on bad assumptions. If he does not begin scumhunting, sure, go ahead and lynch him, but until I see real proof that he is scum then I won't be voting him.

"Obvious scumbuddy"? If you are going by length of time on the site + number of posts then surely I rank high enough in awesomeness to ever be anything obvious and I'm certainly no such thing here. Stop being a hypocrite and scumhunt.

[charter]

Mizzy is obviously scum, but it's because of her total ignoring of PZ and Jimfinn, not for being Moose's buddy.

At this point, I want to lynch Jimfinn first, and then Mizzy. Both of them are clearly scum. It's possible they're trying to get in a free lynch of PZ first. To be honest, I doubt it will matter, since if we lynch those two first, PZ will get lynched the next day, but yeah. I'd prefer lynching Jimfinn first.

[moose200x]

Charter, why is mizzy is scum cuz she ignored both PZ and JImfinn? Doesn't that seem like a rookie scum mistake?

[charter]

No, it seems like wanting to avoid expressing suspicion of your buddies because then you will have to vote and pressure them, or it seems like wanting to avoid defending your buddies because then you just look worse when they flip scum, or it seems like wanting to avoid the issue altogether in the hopes that you aren't connected to them and wont sink on the same ship they are on. You can slice it many different ways, but none of them result in Mizzy being town.

[moose200x]

I guess I can see it from your POV.


Also, RBT- Do you think I am scum or are you just wanting to lynch the VI? I can't tell, if you do have a case against me I'd love to hear it.

[charter]

How is my POV in this situation different from yours?

[MacavityLock]

Shit. I have two competing theories on this game, and they're both muddled by the very existence of moose. Things like:

So let me get this straight. Within the first 5 posts of day 2 you have two players you want to lynch?

Does yesterday not matter? Why are you so eager to hammer? If charter hadn't unvoted before you had a chance to vote, would you have hammered?

How is my POV in this situation different from yours?

is a good question. And the most important question for you, moose: Who is scum?

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charter, a couple questions for you. Can you explain what you mean by

At this point, it looks like you're [Prokhor] a better scumrole, but Jimfinn is more certainly scum

Also, I want to completely understand your analysis of jimfinn/Prokhor/Mizzy. Can you make your iso 67 more explicit for me?

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I think I need to

Unvote

for now.

[moose200x]

How is my POV in this situation different from yours?

Well, your POV is that she is scum for ignoring them. Mine was she just didn't comment.

After reading what you wrote I saw it from your POV and sorta agreed.

[moose200x]

MacLock: why does it matter if I would of hammered or not? that tells us nothing.

[MacavityLock]

MacLock: why does it matter if I would of hammered or not? that tells us nothing.

How do you know what it tells me? Answer my questions. All of them.

[MacavityLock]

EWBOP: Your response to the "POV" question is adequate. All other questions in my post need answers though.

[moose200x]

MacLock: why does it matter if I would of hammered or not? that tells us nothing.

How do you know what it tells me? Answer my questions. All of them.

Let me go question by question for you, I have a hard time explainging myself and I hate answering a whole bunch of questions cuz allit does is end in 15 requotes.



Why does it not matter if i hammered:

Becuase we don't know if the hammer would of flipped scum or town. If it flipped town I would be more scummy, and vice versa. "IF" Doesn't answer anything unless i actually did.

[MacavityLock]

That's not the question I asked. Would you have hammered, yes or no?

[moose200x]

Nope. Not w/o a claim. With a VT claim, yes, I would have.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Just as the cold silence had silenced your words, the heated threats made removed the unseen frost from your mouths and your lips made unheard movements as never before this afternoon.

Just as you exercised your pen by stroking movements with it, something unexpected and alarming happened. At the faint hour of 4:00 PM CST, Rabies, who was suffering from an unknown heart condition that was known to no one but to him, his family, and the doctors who diagnosed him, suddenly passed out.

Not showing any empathy for laziness, charter, who mistaken Rabies for being lazy and sleeping began yelling at Rabies to get up.

"Get up Rabies! This isn't the time to sit around and do nothing!"

charter temper with Rabies slowly went red.

"Why aren't you responding? Why aren't you working to find scums?"

"I have this bow and arrow with me. If you refuse to do what I say, I will personally drag you to the stick and drive this arrow through your heart."

Engima, wanting to stop this exceptionally unauthorized execution, asked him to stop. He then felt Rabies pulse.

"It stopped beating. Rabies is probably dead anyway, so arrowing him would only confirm his death. Why waste it when we can be putting it to more useful kills, like the lynch today?"

charter very reluctantly agreed to this. He wanted to get rid of someone no longer of use, yet he realized that another person could take his spot.

Vote Count #5, Day 2

Engima (0):
LynchMePls (0):
moose200x (1): Riceballtail
Riceballtail (1): Mizzy
jimfinn (1): charter
Rabies (0):
Mizzy (0):
charter (0):
MacavityLock (0):
ProkhorZaharov (4): Engima, MacavityLock, LynchMePls, jimfinn

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting (3): moose200x, Rabies, ProkhorZaharov

It is Day 2! With ten players alive, it takes six votes on a player to lynch!
The deadline is on Thursday December 9th, 2010 at 8:30 PM CST.

Rabies has not responded to my prod within the time frame required for him to respond. He will be replaced (Contacting ReaperCharlie now, who is on my potential replacement list. If I do not hear a response from him by the morning, I will start actively searching for a replacement for other options (thought if ReaperCharlie gets to me before another offer comes up, I will still let him replace)).

[MacavityLock]

moose, do you want me to ask them one at a time, or can you go through my post and answer all of them?

[moose200x]

Oh I thought I already answered your questions LOL.... repost them like below

1. how are you?
2. like pie?
3. lolurmad

[MacavityLock]

1)

So let me get this straight. Within the first 5 posts of day 2 you have two players you want to lynch?

Does yesterday not matter?

2) Why are you so eager to hammer?

3) And the most important question for you, moose: Who is scum?[/quote]

[moose200x]

1) Honestly, when I said this I was upset that we didnt get scum. RBT seemed so sure I or *** Was scum that he wanted to lynch either of us. It was a shock becuase werent right on D1, we messed up and then BAM here is RBfail trying to lynch someone.

2) Well, let's say you are getting robbed and the gunmen says "give me the code to the safe" and you say no. So he pistol whips ya and shit, then he asks agian, you refuse.... he pulls out his gun and all of a sudden his partner busts out his glock and is all "OMG LET ME DO IT BOSS, LET ME BLAST THIS GUY" you'd shit your pants and start screaming that safe combo. does that make sense, i can reword if ou like.

3) If I had to pick the scum team i'd go with mizzy, rbt, jimfinn... I am not sure if it's 3 or 4 or whatever, only my second game in a mini.

[MacavityLock]

3) If I had to pick the scum team i'd go with mizzy, rbt, jimfinn... I am not sure if it's 3 or 4 or whatever, only my second game in a mini.

Why them?

[moose200x]

RBT: Wants to lynch me on d2 for being an idiot. that isnt pro-town considering we mislynched d1. also http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p2642669

Mizzy: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 0#p2634290 and http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p2648826 wtf bro-chick.

Jimfinn: he is the weakest of my scum team. His biggest thing to me is that he got PZ at l-1 and it just, the town didnt really want a PZ lynch at the time, it seemed he was trying to force something. If gon flipped sucm i'd of tunnled this guy all day. but he didnt.

PZ would fit well if mizzy is scum based on charters POV. I reread and do agree with him.


Oh and guys, i'm sorry i am not good. I try. I am pretty decent at epicmafia, but thats cuz i am good using night actions for info.

[Riceballtail]

Also, RBT- Do you think I am scum or are you just wanting to lynch the VI? I can't tell, if you do have a case against me I'd love to hear it.

Well, if you're not scum (which you seem to be from your actions), then getting rid of a VI is just that much better of a deal. If you ARE town, you should have tried acting like it. All you've been doing is flopping around cluelessly, shameless buddying, immense WIFOM and rolefishing, just to name a few. If we have a vig, I'd like to see you dead tonight. But, since I'm not so inclined to believe so, we're gonna have to lynch you so you don't cost us the game later if you somehow happen to be town.