Consulmaker II: the Pyrrhic War - Game over.

[SensFan]

Probably won't be agreeing to a Reck lynch today.

[Nathanael]

guys (parama), I guess everyone can multivote, as this are PSEUDO-votecounts. but what's the point of multi-voting? does it help you catch scum? no, so stop it.

[ribwich]

What happened to "I will not allow the execution of Jack or ribwich"?

Partly what Parama said. Partly I realized that you've been much more scummy than Jack.
Mostly that I don't think its in the Town's best interests for you to continue making the decisions on who is Consul, if you happen to be Consulmaker.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole point of this pseudo vote thing to get an idea of who everyone wants executed? What's the point of having a vote on someone that you don't actually want executed today?

I would ask you to explain how I'm scummier than Jack, but it really doesn't even matter. It'll be obvious by tomorrow that I'm the real consulmaker and that he's lying scum.

And the fact that you're more interested in getting rid of the consulmaker instead of scum just because I don't want consuls that will abuse their power makes me all the more confident in my decision to never let you be consul again.

[SensFan]

What happened to "I will not allow the execution of Jack or ribwich"?

Partly what Parama said. Partly I realized that you've been much more scummy than Jack.
Mostly that I don't think its in the Town's best interests for you to continue making the decisions on who is Consul, if you happen to be Consulmaker.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole point of this pseudo vote thing to get an idea of who everyone wants executed? What's the point of having a vote on someone that you don't actually want executed today?

I would ask you to explain how I'm scummier than Jack, but it really doesn't even matter. It'll be obvious by tomorrow that I'm the real consulmaker and that he's lying scum.

And the fact that you're more interested in getting rid of the consulmaker instead of scum just because I don't want consuls that will abuse their power makes me all the more confident in my decision to never let you be consul again.

First of all, you're right. I wouldn't vote you if I wasn't comfortable in having you executed.

Second of all, stop talking about yourself like you're confirmed Consulmaker. There's a higher chance you're Scum than anyone else other than Jack. And if we're going to gamble, it's going to be on you. If we mess up and hit JackTown, we lost a very good consulmaker. If we mess up and hit ribTown, we gain a competent consulmaker.

[ribwich]

I'm not talking like I'm confirmed consulmaker. I'm talking like someone that's going to be confirmed tomorrow when the consuls get chosen the way I said they would. Taking the gamble on Jack or me would be the worst move you could make. There is absolutely no reason to want to execute either of us when tomorrow it will be confirmed which of us is lying.

[xRECKONERx]

Nominate Xreck for the "if we get deadlocked" lynch.

I would not like this at all

[dramonic]

A lurker lynch on day 1?

On my wuv?

fuck no <<

[inHimshallibe]

Pseudo-vote: Katsuki
Pseudo-vote: horrordude

[SensFan]

I'm not talking like I'm confirmed consulmaker. I'm talking like someone that's going to be confirmed tomorrow when the consuls get chosen the way I said they would. Taking the gamble on Jack or me would be the worst move you could make. There is absolutely no reason to want to execute either of us when tomorrow it will be confirmed which of us is lying.

You do realize that as soon as you (even if you're telling the truth) get executed, another confirmed Town pops up, right?

[inHimshallibe]

I'm not talking like I'm confirmed consulmaker. I'm talking like someone that's going to be confirmed tomorrow when the consuls get chosen the way I said they would. Taking the gamble on Jack or me would be the worst move you could make. There is absolutely no reason to want to execute either of us when tomorrow it will be confirmed which of us is lying.

You do realize that as soon as you (even if you're telling the truth) get executed, another confirmed Town pops up, right?

Yeah, but towns win mafia games based upon their numbers.

[Nathanael]

EXECUTE: SensFan!

Spoiler: ...

yes, I know he is unlynchable. I just wanted to draw attention to how scummy he is.

[SpyreX]

Abrasive != scummy.

I've got good feelings all over about Sens being town.

Not that I agree with killing one of the two as its panned out TODAY (especially when there's others so deserving)

[xRECKONERx]

Abrasive != scummy.

I've got good feelings all over about Sens being town.

Not that I agree with killing one of the two as its panned out TODAY (especially when there's others so deserving)

I also have a town read on Sens.
What's your read on dramonic, aka my super fantastic scummy lover?

[SpyreX]

He's on the short list at the mo'. Not of the same level as DERP but I need some bite.

(P.S. you too)

[ribwich]

Abrasive != scummy.

I've got good feelings all over about Sens being town.

Not that I agree with killing one of the two as its panned out TODAY (especially when there's others so deserving)

It's not the abrasiveness that makes me think he's scummy. It's the fact that he tried to get us to use a plan that would involve having confirmed scum as consul tomorrow, and when that didn't work he tried to get Jack to be a tribune.

[Nathanael]

I will not allow an execution of either claimed Consulmaker to go through today.

I'm not willing to take a 50-50 shot today, and risk killing a confirmable PR, when we can ensure we get a 100% lynch of the liar on D3. Yes, I have a way to figure out which of them is lying by D3. No, I don't think its best to divulge it until just before we execute someone today.

Vote: rib; Vote: Kat

Second of all, stop talking about yourself like you're confirmed Consulmaker. There's a higher chance you're Scum than anyone else other than Jack. And if we're going to gamble, it's going to be on you. If we mess up and hit JackTown, we lost a very good consulmaker. If we mess up and hit ribTown, we gain a competent consulmaker.

You do realize that as soon as you (even if you're telling the truth) get executed, another confirmed Town pops up, right?

someone tell me how this is not a blatant contradiction.
Sens, what exactly changed?
How can you be so sure ribwich is the right choice over Jack (whom you even wanted as consul)?

Damn, why is my top scumread exactly the one we can't lynch today?


PS: have we already made the lists for the two consulmakers to choose from? we should do it like this:
one consulmaker makes two lists in a simple

random

way. the other chooses

randomly

between the two lists.
that way scum has minimal influence on the lists, as at least one of the two has to be town (and if not, the third consulmaker is quite free with his choices, as he can choose one player per list.)
it is very important that if you are town you make your decision in a random way.

[xRECKONERx]

I really like Nathanael's idea.

[ribwich]

We already agreed on I'll take evens and Jack will take odds, but I actually like that idea better if Jack wants to do it.

[SensFan]

I will not allow an execution of either claimed Consulmaker to go through today.

I'm not willing to take a 50-50 shot today, and risk killing a confirmable PR, when we can ensure we get a 100% lynch of the liar on D3. Yes, I have a way to figure out which of them is lying by D3. No, I don't think its best to divulge it until just before we execute someone today.

Vote: rib; Vote: Kat

Second of all, stop talking about yourself like you're confirmed Consulmaker. There's a higher chance you're Scum than anyone else other than Jack. And if we're going to gamble, it's going to be on you. If we mess up and hit JackTown, we lost a very good consulmaker. If we mess up and hit ribTown, we gain a competent consulmaker.

You do realize that as soon as you (even if you're telling the truth) get executed, another confirmed Town pops up, right?

someone tell me how this is not a blatant contradiction.
Sens, what exactly changed?
How can you be so sure ribwich is the right choice over Jack (whom you even wanted as consul)?

Damn, why is my top scumread exactly the one we can't lynch today?

It's absolutely a contradiction.
I've explained about 5 times what has changed. Try reading my posts for a change.
I'm not sure ribwhich is the right choice over Jack. I'm sure consulmakerOther is a much better choice than consulmakerRib.

You have the wrong cause-effect direction there. It's precisely because I'm lynchproof that I'm acting unPC, because what matters today is making the best decision to help us win; not coming out of this looking good.

[xRECKONERx]

You have the wrong cause-effect direction there. It's precisely because I'm lynchproof that I'm acting unPC, because what matters today is making the best decision to help us win; not coming out of this looking good.

Except that by explicitly stating this, you are now actively trying to look more pro-town.

[Parama]

EXECUTE: Nathanael!

yes, I know I am unlynchable. I just wanted to draw attention to how scummy I am.

[ribwich]

Parama, why is Nathanael scummy? I don't really understand what you meant by

he's pretty much trying to line up lynches from the looks of things.

Also, why do you believe that Jack and I are both town? What pro-town reason would there be for lying about being consulmaker?

[SpyreX]

Why in the ass is this game obsessed with taking two steps forward, one step back.

"Random" is tech but arbitrarily splitting a list with a random element (such as, ohh, the signups by something like ohhh, evens and odds) solves the same thing. Lets go ahead and be awesome and not waste more time on this.

That said JESUS H be glad I don't have access to the gun because watching TWO of you go "ohh I really like that idea" when it IS EXACTLY THE SAME NET RESULT MAKES HULK SMASH.

The consuls will devour themselves and thats fine. Lets go ahead and not focus more f-- on that either.

Hows about we talk about the slag and how rediculous it is instead. I'm not home so I haven't got to check but SOMETHING MYSTICAL tells me that Kat's been active on site. If I see ANY posts from horror that aren't in this game that can move up the list too. Also awesome how scot popped in and fled.

And I'm still waiting from real boy content from the wonder twins.

[Powerrox93]

Did you read my post? It was right above that.

When I saw it the first time no (Due to limited time I had to skim through the wall), but after a re-read yes.

[xRECKONERx]

Who are the wonder twins, again?