Responce to HOMJs response-
1. no town is often accused of using AtE by scum, this is the consensus I have seen in games I have read and in other discussions on site
I don't think I've mentioned AtE or how scum doesn't accuse town of doing it.
2. insulting a player is scummy
How?
3. insult is anti-town becauseit is scummy play, there is no need to insult people
An insult is anti-town but insulting people does not help the scum at all, scum have no motivation to insult people. Especially if the insult is VI which is generally not considered to be an insult.
So it is not scummy.
4. "But most town aren't pro-town. Even if they intend to be pro-town, most are neutral or antitown. And there is a diffeence between not pro-town, anti-town and scummy, only scummy is vote worthy." This makes no sense to me
What I'm saying is that most town aren't pro-town. If they were, then there would be no mislynches.
"You can not say that someone is not scum hunting because they are scum hunting you." But I have proven he wasn't scum hunting me, he if anything was just spaghetti throwing
Originally he was not scum hunting. But he started scum hunting when you started attacking him.
6. regaridng your question about emp saying "same as yesterday" I said it isn't good enough because he never gave a valid reason for his votes on me day 1 so it made no sense for him to use that. plus he implied his voting first was somehow scum hunting which is also fail logic
Ok, I didn't know what his original reasons were when I said that.
7. you never provided a valid case, that is how I can say you never posted a valid case. Hiding your reasons in walls of text where nobody can see them hurts town, not helps them. the way you post these walls of text actually hurt town because it makes it impossible to respond to them easily. I am having a bitch of a time right now, you are purposely complicating things in hopes people will just not respond to you.
I have provided a valid case, just because you are to lazy to read a wall of text doesn't mean I'm hiding my reasons. All of my reasons are there for anyone to see.
How am I purposefully complicating things? I really don't see how it is so hard to read a few paragraphs and respond to them. And I'm not hoping for the town to ignore them, the reason why I post walls of text is so that the town can see all my thoughts on the game.
8. "I have already explained why NL is not anti-town. I've also already given you my thoughts on statistics in general, all statistics are WIFOM." you can give your reasons all you want but saying statistics are WIFOM is actually crap, statistics that can prove something is FACT.
Ok, if statistics if statistics prove fact then I have a 75% chance of being town so I it is a fact that I am town.
9. you really don't understand the term active lurking - from wiki "A subset of lurking is the so-called "active lurking", where a player posts in the thread but without making any contribution to the progress of the game. Their posts may be minimal in length, off-topic, or merely parroting what other players have already said" and quite a few people are doing that, I am making my case and emp keeps providing me with more evidence. I can say someone like DB could be accused of active lurking cause he fits into the "parroting"
Ok, using that definition, you are also active lurking because you aren't contributing to the progress of the game. In the last 10 pages, you and empking have both made no progress toward a lynch.
10. I asked emp specifically if I was L-1, because he seemed so convinced I was scum I fear that even if I claimed he would not believe me, which is anti-town behavior to not be open to the idea of changing his mind, which I don't feel like he would and I still don't feel like he would change his mind about me.
I completely agree. What I was asking was how is he supposed to answer that if he doesnt know what you will claim.
11. emp's directed almost all of his posts at that time towards one person, it is scummy because it seems like he is trying to get that one person on his side, he shoudl be directing it to everyone not just TM
TM is the only person undecided between you being scum and him being scum.
12. I don't understand how a VI can be anti-town when V stands for village, if a person is anti-town than call hm an SI. VI implies that he is town, SI implies he is scum
Anti-town is not the same thing as scummy. Anti-town is an action that hurts the town while scummy is an action that benefits the scum.
16. ".He said 90%., He never changed anything, he said that he was 90% sure that he is town, nobody can ever be 100% sure that someone is town unless they are somehow confirmed." No originally he made a declarative statement that BV was town, he later retracted it to 90% (yeah I said 8 instead of 90%, who really cares about that. The fact that he declared BV as town (without a percentage) is suspicious cause there is only one way he can know that.
My point is that there is no 100% town. Have you ever been 100% sure that someone was town?
He just changed his reads, which town are able to do.seems like he is "keeping his options open" and since he accused me of being scum for doing it, that means he shoudl be accused of scum for doing it
No, he changed his reads, you had all the same reads. They're completely different.
The reason why he hasn't given his cases is probably because you keep calling them reads." Semantics cause it's fucking obvious I want him to post cases, you just proved it. and why are you defending emp? just proves you are his scum buddy to me
Unless you're scum.
