Fringe Mafia (Game Over, role PMs posted)

[PogoStick]

Please someone tell me how this response to my case on him is pro-town, notice he uses. "bull" and "This I don't even" which can not possibly be town responses to rebut my case

1. Bull
2. Not a scum tell.
3.

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"He's a bit unorthodox."
"He's also tripping his brains out. ...You know that, right?"

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Furcolow

- HopOnMyJoystick, LordChronos, Empking, Doombunny9

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LordChronos

- TonyMontana, Furcolow
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TonyMontana

- Zang

Not Voting: sorasgoof, Shattered Viewpoint, foilist13, GhostWriter, Nocmen

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With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

4. Even DB admits this is false.
5. How is this a scumtell?
6. Bull.
7. This I don't even.
8. This I don't even.
9. First part: No I didn't. Second Part: Not a scum tell.
10. Quotes please.
11. How is this a scum tell.
12. Quotes please.
13. Bull
14. Firstly, it was 90%. Secondly, where did I ever suggest that I was 100% sure than bv was town.
15. How is this a scum tell?
16. Coincidence
17. Quotes please.
18. Evidence please.

DB: Thoughts on 7.
TM: Thoughts on 7.
Smarge: Thoughts on 7

[Zang]

1. Exactly my point, he didn't start scum hunting til I pointed out he wasn't scum hunting, which should prove this behavior is more suspicious.

But like I said before, I don't find this scummy.

3. Can you post a link that proves your statistic is remotely true? Because I was able to post a link for mine. My statistic = actual statistic supported by actual data. Your statistic is supported only by your own claim

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p2604914

Ok there's actually a 67% chance but the point is still true. There are 9 players left in the game assuming that there are 3 scum then there is a 67% chance if there are less then the percentage increases and there wouldn't be more.

4. The only time I have been 100% sure someone was town is when I have been scum, which is why I pointed it out, he originally declared bv as town and went back and covered his tracks by saying he is 90% town. I feel it was a minor slip on his part but it was a slip. The only way he can declare someone town like he originally did would be if he were scum

Exactly, When you think someone is town do you say 90% chance of being town or do you just say town?

[PogoStick]

Okay, Hop, if you say you're at L-2 I'll put you at L-1. Your recent posting hasn't been any better, and the game is starting to stagnate.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Hop

You aren't town are you?

To say I have not posted anything better is laughable

I have posted more and more evidence that emp's actions are not pro town and you say this?

[PogoStick]

1. Exactly my point, he didn't start scum hunting til I pointed out he wasn't scum hunting, which should prove this behavior is more suspicious.

But like I said before, I don't find this scummy.

3. Can you post a link that proves your statistic is remotely true? Because I was able to post a link for mine. My statistic = actual statistic supported by actual data. Your statistic is supported only by your own claim

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p2604914

Ok there's actually a 67% chance but the point is still true. There are 9 players left in the game assuming that there are 3 scum then there is a 67% chance if there are less then the percentage increases and there wouldn't be more.

4. The only time I have been 100% sure someone was town is when I have been scum, which is why I pointed it out, he originally declared bv as town and went back and covered his tracks by saying he is 90% town. I feel it was a minor slip on his part but it was a slip. The only way he can declare someone town like he originally did would be if he were scum

Exactly, When you think someone is town do you say 90% chance of being town or do you just say town?

if town's job is to scum hunt, how is it town motivated to not scum hunt until somebody calls them out on it?
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3. I would say "I think this person is town" I would not say

He isn't trying for a mislynch!

He's town!

[esuriospiritus]

Would you guys believe only one vote has changed since the last time I made a vote count like 6 pages ago?

[PogoStick]

fyi smargret, there has not been any additional votes on me since the last vote count so if you want to put me at L-1 feel free

i'd believe it

[smargaret]

Would you guys believe only one vote has changed since the last time I made a vote count like 6 pages ago?

Hop, this is why what you're saying about empking isn't moving the game forward.

[PogoStick]

Would you guys believe only one vote has changed since the last time I made a vote count like 6 pages ago?

Hop, this is why what you're saying about empking isn't moving the game forward.

so it's my fault we have inactives and his scum buddies don't want to bus him?

[PogoStick]

I have made a very convincing argument against empking, more than anyone has made on me and more than anyone made on furclow, yet nobody wants to vote him.

all he can do is respond to my accusations with "Bull" and accuse me of "annoying him by coordinating my attacks with DB"

[esuriospiritus]

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"I've seen this woman before. Why does she look so familiar?"
"Maybe because you dissected her twin sister yesterday. Remember? Blond girl about 5'7". Really well done. Melted fillings."
"Oh, right."

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HopOnMyJoystick

- Empking, bv310, Zang, smargaret

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Empking

- Doombunny9, HopOnMyJoystick, TonyMontana

Not Voting: Primate, Shattered Viewpoint

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Day 2 will end on December 8th, 2010 at 10:30 PM EST (Countdown here.) or when someone is lynched.

With 9 present and alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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bv310 will be prodded.

[Doombunny9]

HOMJ- Claim time

[PogoStick]

:sigh: I was hoping people may have wised up and unvoted overnight, guess not

I am William Bell, owner of Massive Dynamic. I am pro-town commuter. I am able to go to the alternate universe to prevent being killed or kidnapped

[TonyMontana]

true claim is true.

[Empking]

true claim is true.

Why do you say that? It seems awfully vanilla for a BM game with roles such as "Patholologist".

[PogoStick]

There are probably some ludicrously minor roles in this game. Attempting to use flavour to outguess the mod may not go as well as you think...

Oh and I'm telling the truth, there is no way if you are pro-town you can honestly say I have not been scum hunting, if I'm wrong on you emp, I'm sorry but you are the biggest read I have right now

I will say that the 180 smarg has pulled definitely has me paying more attention to her as well

[Empking]

There are probably some ludicrously minor roles in this game. Attempting to use flavour to outguess the mod may not go as well as you think...

Oh and I'm telling the truth, there is no way if you are pro-town you can honestly say I have not been scum hunting, if I'm wrong on you emp, I'm sorry but you are the biggest read I have right now

I will say that the 180 smarg has pulled definitely has me paying more attention to her as well

Neither Commuters nor William Bell count as minor roles IMO.

[TonyMontana]

true claim is true.

Why do you say that? It seems awfully vanilla for a BM game with roles such as "Patholologist".

Doesn't seem that vanilla compared to the two vanilla flips, though?

Also, those roles were Brandon and the cow. <those be minor roles

[PogoStick]

I was referring more to the trying to out-guess the mod

And tbh I have never seen commuter used before so it's minor enough to me

[TonyMontana]

HAI THERE!

I suggest people move off Hop's wagon, he is most likely town.

[PogoStick]

I knew emp wouldn't

[Empking]

true claim is true.

Why do you say that? It seems awfully vanilla for a BM game with roles such as "Patholologist".

Doesn't seem that vanilla compared to the two vanilla flips, though?

PRs and VTs are completely different.

Also, those roles were Brandon and the cow. <those be minor roles

Unlike William Bell who was a major mysterious figure in S1.

[PogoStick]

Emp since it's clear you still don't beleive me,

What are your thoughts on smar's 180? Odd or do you beleive his reasons?

[Empking]

Emp since it's clear you still don't beleive me,

What are your thoughts on smar's 180? Odd or do you beleive his reasons?

His 180 doesn't have a scum motivation unless you're scum. If you're scum then Smarge is probably town for other reasons.

[Zang]

if town's job is to scum hunt, how is it town motivated to not scum hunt until somebody calls them out on it?

It's not. One of the things I've been saying in my last few posts is that not all town act pro town. 

When I would wait for somebody to attack me, I was usually bored with the game. When somebody posted a case on me, it would give me something to respond to and I would slowly get more involved in the game. This reminds me of empking.

3. I would say "I think this person is town" I would not say

What would you say if you think someone is scum?

I am William Bell, owner of Massive Dynamic. I am pro-town commuter. I am able to go to the alternate universe to prevent being killed or kidnapped

Why did you put pro-town? Shouldn't it be assumed that you're role is town? 

This is a really safe claim for scum since his role does not benefit the town, there is no way of proving his claim and no one would find it weird how he is never killed. 

Oh and I'm telling the truth, there is no way if you are pro-town you can honestly say I have not been scum hunting, if I'm wrong on you emp, I'm sorry but you are the biggest read I have right now

Scum can't scum hunt.

[PogoStick]

1. Yes it is town's job to scum hunt, scum already knows who town is. You little example is unnecessary and wifom
2. I say they are scum, sometimes I may say I think they are but if I'm pretty sure I say they are
3. I put pro- town cause I didn't want to copy the actual wording. The actual wording is town hypen (not spelled out) aligned
May be a safe claim in your book but it's the truth, there are restrictions so I'm not unkillable
4. Ok I agree but I'm scum hunting and emp isn't, yet you still coming after me

Emp is refusing to cause he knows he can't