Succession Mafia (OVER!)

[ReaperCharlie]

PLAN:

We lynch one of Robo/Flameaxe.
Whichever one is left isn't touched tonight.
xvart kills Yosarian2.
Chronopie blocks Yosarian2.
Porochaz blocks singersigner.
Orange will kill purple. They won't recruit this late in the game.
I'll investigate someone. Haven't decided who yet.
By blocking singersigner and RC we are forcing the cult to kill with members other than known members.

Well. Sounds like a plan. I guess.

Yeah, I think so too... WAIT. Hold on a second.

PLAN:

We lynch one of Robo/Flameaxe.
Whichever one is left isn't touched tonight.
xvart kills Yosarian2.
Chronopie

blocks Yosarian2.

Porochaz

blocks singersigner.

Orange will kill purple. They won't recruit this late in the game.
I'll investigate someone. Haven't decided who yet.
By

blocking singersigner and RC

we are forcing the cult to kill with members other than known members.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

...but...

Well. Sounds like a plan. I guess.

Well. Sounds like a plan. I guess.

Well. Sounds like a plan. I guess.

Well. Sounds like a plan. I guess.

Well. Sounds like a plan. I guess.

Well. Sounds like a plan. I guess.

LOL! He didn't even read it!


But he agrees with it.


k.

[Andrius]

No, I mean, if they were scum which faction would they be in? Orange (Yos, M=W) or Purple (Erg0/Quag, xvart)

predit:
Chrono, you always were bad at bussing your buddies.
Darox, I take it those are for me. /reading

predit2: RC, I meant singersigner and Yos.
You can bang a goat tonight for all I care. Might as well investigate yourself.

[Andrius]

UGH. First line for Flameaxe; damn ninjas.

[ReaperCharlie]

Gurgi is fine. RC can investigate him for all I care.

You willing to follow the plan?

Look at you, trying to

tell me who to investigate

, and then telling Chrono to

follow the plan

...

...right after you didn't

follow the plan

of someone

telling you who to investigate

last night.



I swear; this thread + vodka = good for lulz!

[Robocopter87]

Robo, the ATE is duly noted.

Dude. Are you seriously saying that I have not been protecting you? If I wasn't protecting you then you definitely would be recruited by now.

By saying I'm a recruiter, you are saying you are not part of the town. You do understand that right? Without me there is no you. Without the chicken there is no egg. I am the Chicken. And you. You are the Egg.

PEDIT; REAPER. YOU DIDNT READ. I SAID I READ THE FRIKKIN PART WHERE I WAS SUPPOSEd TO DIE BUT FOR THE GOOD OF EVERYONE I DONT MIND GETTING SACRIFICIED. Sorry. I'm just really mad at Andrius right now for telling me

now

, after all the nights ive protected him, that he doesnt trust me.

After Ninja number 15. Yes. Ive been counting

[ReaperCharlie]

You don't sound so excited.

Well you see, part of your plan is killing me(or flameaxe). So im not exactly all peaches and gravy about it. But I guess if the town wins then its alright.

I guess now is as good of a time as ever to ask that question I've asked a few times this game:

Who do you see as recruiter and why?

@Andy: I have no qualms with the plan, really. Without rereading the last few pages to go on a wild goose chase through all these posts, is there any reason why the lynch candidates are only Robo and myself, not Gurgi (who I have no intention of lynching myself, but still, it validates a point) or Darox? I guess I missed a post where they got eliminated from discussion despite being possible candidates.

@Prozac: Anyone in particular you would like to see strung up today? If you posted this, point me to it, as always. Ps: Town read still active on prozac. Wooo. Seriously, I'd be shocked if you can't tell this by now. (Maybe it's just because I know you so well...Meh. Doubt it.) 3108 is a great post, imo.

@Chrono: I forget, why the current Gurgi hate?

I'd still like more singersigner input.

OH YEA ONE MORE THING.

AFTER MY ISO OF FLAMEAXE THIS IS WHY I THOUGHT HE WAS TOWN AND WHY I STILL THINK ROBO IS SCUM.

HE MUST ASK THREE OR FOUR TIMES OF ROBO WHO HE THINKS A/THE RECRUITER IS, AND ROBO NEVER ANSWERS ONCE.

HE NEVER ANSWERS ONCE.

KIND OF REMINDS ME OF THIS:

Holster

for now.

I'm not sure that I entirely trust Yos's version of events, since he has an obvious incentive to make his team appear as weak as possible. I guess the viability of his lynch depends largely on whether he's really on the same team as Me=Weird, and on whether we can get a really good lead on a recruiter today.

There's a fair bit of setup-related information to parse, I need to do some "what ifs".

Who do YOU think is a recruiter?

I second this question.

WHICH ERG0 ALSO WOULDN'T ANSWER. RINGING ANY BELLS YET?

MAN I SWEAR YOU PEOPLE ARE SO THICK.

[Robocopter87]

Oh wait. You were yelling at me for not seeing his error. Oh. Sorry. Misintrpreted you there.

[xvart]

I might have just forgot, but Poro, can you tell me why you RB'd Chrono N2?
Thanks.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 8#p2633358

You know what this game is reminding me of... Thrillville. Specifically: Andy-Scum. That was a good scum game from Andy...

Which means robo is scum, which means he probably isn't Cult Doctor, which means you should be voting for him. And since you are so defiant against voting anyone but Gurgui (because he has been the most useless) that means you are one their team.

Andy's Plan - I think it's fine. I can't promise that I will kill Yos2 tonight, but someone will, so the result is still the same. If the roleblockers deviate then we will know.

I'm getting genuine Cult-Doc vibes from Robo.

What do Cult-Doc vibes look like? Have you ever played in a game with a Cult Doctor before?

Andy - forced vote right now would go on Robo.

I got an answer from Flay a while back but forgot to post it. He basically said that the flavor was a function of both of our roles. And then alluded to how important communication is among the mob ranks is, and a failure to communicate creates confusion. So I'm guessing I was ordered to BG without my knowledge, as that would be a function of both our roles.

xvart.

[Flameaxe]

@Andy:

If they are recruited... I'd expect Chrono in orange (due to the double block, although not ruling out the possibility of chrono being in purple and not shooting for a gambit. Stretch, but a possible stretch, imo).

RC: I'd honestly don't find either cult to be more likely, in this case. He was all for the Quag wagon yesterday, but the day before that the whole ooba situation happened. Just to say again, I really think Charlie could go both ways...

Jesus christ the simulposts! I feel like I'm in a marathon game.

[Flameaxe]

@Robo: I wasn't kidding. Reply to my question, or I keep pestering.

In addition:

Sorry. I'm just really mad at Andrius right now for telling me now, after all the nights ive protected him, that he doesnt trust me.

I'm confused as to why Andy's trust of you is connected to your protection. :shiftyeyes:

[Andrius]

No, if you are town then you have been protecting me.
If you are a recruit you have been protecting me.

HOWEVER, if you are THE recruiter then you haven't. So yeah.

By saying I'm a recruiter, you are saying you are not part of the town. You do understand that right? Without me there is no you. Without the chicken there is no egg. I am the Chicken. And you. You are the Egg.

Yes, I know that. By saying you're the recruiter I'm saying that I've been open for recruitment for the past... 5 nights. But no one did. Because purple thought your claim was legit (and didn't want me anyway so they didn't waste time) and your cult wouldn't bother because you had to maintain your claim (because if purple shot me then you'd be outed as a flake).
So yeah.

tl;dr:
Assuming Robo is Recruiter:
Purple wouldn't try and recruit me because they believe Robo's claim.
Orange wouldn't try because if I am killed by Purple then Robo is outed as a fraud and therein they lose the Recruiter.
What does this mean? I'm still sitting here as town.

Gimme a sec' xvart. Ninjas are killing me.

Flameaxe: Interesting. Not what I expected, tbh.

[Andrius]

xvart: Poro's N2 block is dodgy as fuck.
But he couldn't have been recruited unless SS wasn't.
Hmmm...

[Robocopter87]

Jesus christ the simulposts! I feel like I'm in a marathon game.

Shows how much you play marathon, there isn't any preview edits for marathon.

PEDIT:

@Robo: I wasn't kidding. Reply to my question, or I keep pestering.

In addition:

Sorry. I'm just really mad at Andrius right now for telling me now, after all the nights ive protected him, that he doesnt trust me.

I'm confused as to why Andy's trust of you is connected to your protection. :shiftyeyes:

Would you hate me if i asked which question? There is so much crap flying through the air I can't keep track of it all.

I don't know why. You'd think that getting protection would be kind of nice but nooooooooooo we gotta frikkin kill Robo. Yep. Thatll work.

[Robocopter87]

No, if you are town then you have been protecting me.
If you are a recruit you have been protecting me.

HOWEVER, if you are THE recruiter then you haven't. So yeah.

By saying I'm a recruiter, you are saying you are not part of the town. You do understand that right? Without me there is no you. Without the chicken there is no egg. I am the Chicken. And you. You are the Egg.

Yes, I know that. By saying you're the recruiter I'm saying that I've been open for recruitment for the past... 5 nights. But no one did. Because purple thought your claim was legit (and didn't want me anyway so they didn't waste time) and your cult wouldn't bother because you had to maintain your claim (because if purple shot me then you'd be outed as a flake).
So yeah.

tl;dr:
Assuming Robo is Recruiter:
Purple wouldn't try and recruit me because they believe Robo's claim.
Orange wouldn't try because if I am killed by Purple then Robo is outed as a fraud and therein they lose the Recruiter.
What does this mean? I'm still sitting here as town.

Gimme a sec' xvart. Ninjas are killing me.

Flameaxe: Interesting. Not what I expected, tbh.

There is no proof of any of this! You are just guessing and assuming.

[Flameaxe]

@Andy: I'm an interesting guy, what can I say. I assume an elaboration on the interesting and unexpected is to come in an extremely long winded post that is inevitably going to be simulposted by myself and two other players, right?

Also regarding your points in 3160: Basically the entire Robo situation (and I'd almost say the game in general at this point) spirals into a giant WIFOMToilet. Agree/disagree?


FUUUUU simulposts.

@Robo: I'm going to go ahead and file the whole gratification thing into my overreaction pile. Seriously though, unless Andy has gotten a protection message every night since N1, he really doesn't have any concrete reason to believe you. Pointing out a few flaws or scumtells shouldn't be unexpected.

[ReaperCharlie]

No, if you are town then you have been protecting me.
If you are a recruit you have been protecting me.

YOU REALLY THINK A RECRUITED CULT DOCTOR IS GOING TO PROTECT A COP HIS FACTION WANTS TO RECRUIT?

I SWEAR ANDRIUS.

DON'T MAKE ME WHIP OUT MY ROFLCOCKTER AND PISTOL WHIP YOU WITH IT.

[Robocopter87]

No, if you are town then you have been protecting me.
If you are a recruit you have been protecting me.

HOWEVER, if you are THE recruiter then you haven't. So yeah.

By saying I'm a recruiter, you are saying you are not part of the town. You do understand that right? Without me there is no you. Without the chicken there is no egg. I am the Chicken. And you. You are the Egg.

Yes, I know that. By saying you're the recruiter I'm saying that I've been open for recruitment for the past... 5 nights. But no one did. Because purple thought your claim was legit (and didn't want me anyway so they didn't waste time) and your cult wouldn't bother because you had to maintain your claim (because if purple shot me then you'd be outed as a flake).
So yeah.

tl;dr:
Assuming Robo is Recruiter:
Purple wouldn't try and recruit me because they believe Robo's claim.
Orange wouldn't try because if I am killed by Purple then Robo is outed as a fraud and therein they lose the Recruiter.
What does this mean? I'm still sitting here as town.

Gimme a sec' xvart. Ninjas are killing me.

Flameaxe: Interesting. Not what I expected, tbh.

There is no proof of any of this! You are just guessing and assuming.

Crap. That defense was stupider than i thought.

[Robocopter87]

No, if you are town then you have been protecting me.
If you are a recruit you have been protecting me.

YOU REALLY THINK A RECRUITED CULT DOCTOR IS GOING TO PROTECT A COP HIS FACTION WANTS TO RECRUIT?

I SWEAR ANDRIUS.

DON'T MAKE ME WHIP OUT MY ROFLCOCKTER AND PISTOL WHIP YOU WITH IT.

I died laughing.

[Flameaxe]

xvart: Poro's N2 block is dodgy as fuck.
But he couldn't have been recruited unless SS wasn't.
Hmmm...

Honestly, knowing Prozac...N2 is something I could absolutely, 100% expect from him (no offense, buddy <3), I think I may have mentioned this or hinted at it at one point to some extent too.

@Robo: The question was essentially "Who's the recruiter and why?" Same question from day two, and three, if you recall.

[Robocopter87]

@Robo: The question was essentially "Who's the recruiter and why?" Same question from day two, and three, if you recall.

yea i remember now.

Right now I gotta go with Andrius. I just am inclined to believe he is using me.

[Andrius]

@Andy: I'm an interesting guy, what can I say. I assume an elaboration on the interesting and unexpected is to come in an extremely long winded post that is inevitably going to be simulposted by myself and two other players, right?

Also regarding your points in 3160: Basically the entire Robo situation (and I'd almost say the game in general at this point) spirals into a giant WIFOMToilet. Agree/disagree?

Long post when I'm done.

Yeah, its WIFOM. But its my tinfoil.

YOU REALLY THINK A RECRUITED CULT DOCTOR IS GOING TO PROTECT A COP HIS FACTION WANTS TO RECRUIT?

What makes you think they wanted me?


I'm at 100.

[Chronopie]

@Robo: The question was essentially "Who's the recruiter and why?" Same question from day two, and three, if you recall.

yea i remember now.

Right now I gotta go with Andrius. I just am inclined to believe he is using me.

Didn't we conclude that Andrius was one of the only three players in this game that was 100% guaranteed to not be the recruiter?

[Flameaxe]

No, if you are town then you have been protecting me.
If you are a recruit you have been protecting me.

YOU REALLY THINK A RECRUITED CULT DOCTOR IS GOING TO PROTECT A COP HIS FACTION WANTS TO RECRUIT?

I SWEAR ANDRIUS.

DON'T MAKE ME WHIP OUT MY ROFLCOCKTER AND PISTOL WHIP YOU WITH IT.

All caps aside, Andy's situation isn't all too unlikely in my mind. As far as I know, Robo's claim only protects recruits, not kills. So if Andy is killed for some reason, and flips town, it helps reinforce Robo's fakeclaim.

I see where you are coming from here, but honestly, it isn't any more likely than what Andy proposed (which actually, he proposed all possibilities).

@Robo: Meh. Can you possibly elaborate beyond "he is using me"? Seems like a pretty sketch response, imo.

[Andrius]

All caps aside, Andy's situation isn't all too unlikely in my mind. As far as I know, Robo's claim only protects recruits, not kills. So if Andy is killed for some reason, and flips town, it helps reinforce Robo's fakeclaim.

QFT

[Robocopter87]

If it reinforced my "fakeclaim" then I would frikkin kill him if iw as a recruiter