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Post #517 (isolation #0) » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:08 am
Postby DavidParker »
Hi guys, hi doom followed u here.
Umm, i just quickly skimmed the "drama" filled part between millar and xite. Haven't read through everything. Right now, I believe xite's claim as a VT, and I find millar as a possible scum, and his recent games he has played blatantly anti-town so i won't take much convincing to get on his bandwagoning.
Anyways, i'll read thread through properly, and maybe give millar the benefit of the doubt
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Post #539 (isolation #1) » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:44 am
Postby DavidParker »
Alright, I've replaced into a number of games, and this has been the way I find most effective to do so:
Event by Event Analysis followed by Player by Player Analysis:
Events:
RVS - nothing to special. A small wagon on yabba/wacka/shattered_viewpoint.. first one to not follow the wagoning is muthaa... hmm.
Robo vs Yabbaguy - some good ol' bickering here. Conclusion?? yabba seems town, neutral on robo.
Reverse Simplicity selfvote - Well it was a RNG (he claimed), if it wasn't , it doesnt seem like a scum-tactic, as it was used to create some discussion. neutral leaning town conclusion on RS for this.
Players:
Yabbaguy - Yes, I went there with the uppercase as well. Alright, he's first because he's the first one to really get talking and involved.. He makes some dumb comments almost fishing for town points "oh dont confirm so lovers can use their qt" this is either someone lookin for town points or someone doing a SOFT claim of lover (very soft). However, based on his play in another game of mine (slight meta) his early game style makes me think he is town, although i say that cautiously as he was an IC in that game, so that could have affected his play.
chi - second mention! makes a scum tell.. out of nothing.. ugh?? (robo vs yabba argument). Also, then claims its a random vote!??!?! WHAT?!?!? and claims he didnt want to wagon... oh dear.. this guy admits to trying not to seem scummy. Only scum try to not seem scummy. town just do what they do.
Shatterd_viewpoint- i like you. Honorary mention.
Millar - oh dear. I managed to find another game with you. To those who don't know, he got stuck as a VT in my last game he subbed in, and as a result played the game as a joke, bandwagoned for no reason, didnt read the thread, and then self hammered. Just got to his "drunk" soft claim as a lover. my verdict?? its a slight scum tell. mutha also seems scummyish for pointing it out, and asking, rather than either ignoring it or attackin him for it..
Alright.
/break.
Just finished page 6. Thoughts so far:
Chi is the scummiest and would make a good lynch.
Millar would make a GREAT policy lynch. (and possible scum)
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Post #540 (isolation #2) » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:00 am
Postby DavidParker »
Umm, so i skimmed the past 10 pages, because i'm out of it and fallin asleep.
just my initial thoughts: miller is probably a lover, i'm surprised he didnt play along with xine , that seems like something he would have done.. I believe xine is a VT for this claim, and was hoping VT millar would play along.. (and draw a night kill). Miller not playing along makes me think millar is not a VT. possibly scum.
Few scum-ish reads. Wacka being one of them, but that was just from skim reading so its mostly the vibes/gut feeling i got from his posts.
and yeah, my thoughts stand.
millar is a good policy lynch if we agree on it (give his lover a chance to claim if he is a lover, then we dont have to policy lynch)
chi would be a good lynch as well (and that would mean millar's lover doesnt have to claim if we agree on this, assumin millar is a lover)
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Post #544 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:35 am
Postby DavidParker »
Robocopter87 wrote:David, why did you get a town on Yabba and a nuetral on me when we both were bickering? I don't see how that works out.
Welcome replacements, bunch o walls but I read them, mighta missed some thing or two but I think I understand for the most part.
cuz i have just finished a game with yabba and feel more confident in getting a read on him.
@wacka: i dont really recall a game with you.. it might have been some messed up theme game that i replaced out of (the only game i replaced out of, cuz i had no idea what the heck ppl were talking about cuz of the theme)
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Post #571 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:57 am
Postby DavidParker »
oh i somehow missed the fidelis/chichi lovers claim.
hmm, that makes lynching chichi harder, but I still think it's a necessary day 1 lynch, the wagon has become so strong that scum will leave the two of them alive even if they are lovers (and no treacherous lovers) because we will have to lynch chichi eventually because of his scumminess.. Better now than later i reckon.
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Post #582 (isolation #8) » Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:44 pm
Postby DavidParker »
Well, I think it's quite possible one of them is the treacherous lover. I'm not entirely convinced, but I think it's a better lynch than any as we will have to lynch them eventually (since I don't see scum having any reason to kill them due to how scummy they have been). I think it's better to get our "policy" lynches done with sooner rather than later.
With that said, I think we should agree on a chihuahua lynch, but still be pressuring/questioning other players and their motives before ending the day phase, as it's still possible someone may make a bigger slip.
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Post #635 (isolation #12) » Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:09 pm
Postby DavidParker »
you guys are attacking him for having a bad (alright, farking terrible) plan.. not because you find him legitimately scummy. i think he just didn't think it through all that well..
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Post #652 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:18 am
Postby DavidParker »
Vote: Enigma
(HI DOOMMONKEY!!!)
Why? Because I have played some 20 games with him and feel that I can safely say he is likely scum.
he also has yet to cast a single vote?!??
How has no one picked up on this.. Sure he has presented some quasi-cases on people.. but what has he actually done to further a town-agenda?? Nothing.. 0 votes all game and we are well into day 2... Definitely lynch-worthy. And on top of that, I can confirm having played some 20 or so games with him and feeling pretty confident on a read on him.
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Post #669 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:50 pm
Postby DavidParker »
@switz: at the time i had my head almost on top of my laptop screen i was so blind, and had just decided the day before i wanted to vote for don, i think it was just the way i got a vibe he was bussing the treachourous lover on day 1, and said some scummy things himself. I dunno, I no longer find him as scummy as Shattered/Enigma so not going to build a case there.
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Post #797 (isolation #27) » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:57 am
Postby DavidParker »
2 FoS's/0 votes.
Also, all of your day 2 posts have been game-theory related more or less. Except where you attacked 1 or 2 people for having bad game-theory, which in itself isn't really a tell.
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Post #977 (isolation #44) » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:05 pm
Postby DavidParker »
I wish we had wolf accounts we could abuse here Enigma
Umm, I voted for Chi so long ago, that I don't remember my reasons for voting for him at the time. I'll have to go reread that part of the game you are talking about.
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Post #978 (isolation #45) » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:07 pm
Postby DavidParker »
I voted him because he was playing like scummy mc scum scum? There was even a lover's claim but he was still considered scummy beyond all reason. I later changed my vote since I found someone else scummy who hadn't claimed lover. (Ironically enough he was also a lover)
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Post #1009 (isolation #49) » Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:58 pm
Postby DavidParker »
The fact you are using a huge appeal to emotion and saying we shouldn't judge you based on your predecessor and if we want to lynch you, lynch you because of you and not your predecessor strikes me as scummy. I mean using common sense, you can't just ignore the scumminess of someone's predecessor.
I think my vote was on Wacka, but in case it's not.
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Post #1090 (isolation #59) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:10 am
Postby DavidParker »
I hammered robo because I wanted a lynch. It seemed like a good town move at the time for me. And it least it gave you guys something to use to get a better read on me (whether that works for me or against me, I'll have to see). And, I hammered him, because I legitimately thought he was scum on reading his last couple of posts.
followed u here.
