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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:20 pm

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VV, SEACORE, VB, IMPLOSION, RC:


TALK AND VOTE.



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cant believe this awesome themed game is suffering from replacements, low activity. :cry:


(must be all the dicks... i heard there was gonna be one in every butt :eek: )

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Deadline is December 7th at 12:34 PM PST
Magnaface: 5 (Fate, Nacho, podium, kcdaspot, Zdenek) L-2
Seacore: 1 (implosion) L-6
VibeBox: 4 (GhostWriter, Magna, RedCoyote, Seacore) L-3
Not Voting: 2 (VasudeVa, VibeBox) L-5
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:29 pm

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MAGNA IS AT L-2 SO NO EXCUSES ABOUT STAYING ON VB BECAUSE YOU NEED A LYNCH, EITHER.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:32 pm

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Dicks in the butt have been known to captivate the entirety of one's focus, making it hard to pay attention to the game, so that serves as a reasonable cause for their low activity...
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:58 pm

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Did someone say my name?!
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:26 pm

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UNVOTE:

I just realized podium... you never completly answered my ISO 31

my responses to you were in bold within the quote. one of the quote tags is busted thoo... I also do this in my ISO 42 for RC.

mod: srsly help me out on that bold tag...
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:10 pm

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I'll look at the Magna case in-depth tomorrow, along with other things and stuff. I've been procrastinating all day... I'm not gonna do that tomorrow.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:36 pm

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Kcdaspot wrote: I just realized podium... you never completly answered my ISO 31
I didn't even notice the bolded questions in that post. Ok, i'll respond... but i'm not sure why you feel the need to unvote MOI over that...

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Kcdaspot wrote: FYI: GW's case on me was different than fate's. In other words, he didn't really explain fate's case.
NOPE. He does Very clearly in his ISO 2 and coutinues to affirm fate's case.
Fate's case was that i was scum and asking for the actual breadcrumb... GW doesn't explain that there.

Kcdaspot wrote: FYI: What he said in ISO 10 was completely unrelated to anything we were discussing. What happened was he mixed up two separate arguments. I tried to get him to understand this, but he wouldn't listen and/or couldn't understand what i was talking about.
STRIKE 2He backs up GW. VERY CLEARLY.
I'm getting very very tired of having to explain the problem here to people. I've done so at least 5 or 6 times.

I told GW that my rebuttal to him diminished his case. Nacho jumps in and says what rebuttal, all i see you say is this: and posts me talking about Fate's case.

How many more times must i say the same thing over and over before someone decides to actually listen to me, read the context, and then realize what's going on? Or should we talk about it 10 or 15 more times?

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Kcdaspot wrote: What do you mean by 'you didn't address your many cases'? I'm pretty sure i addressed all of them.
First of all, there was nothing to address there (fate voted me with no explanation)... but i tried to assume what it might be, and addressed it. How many points do i get for addressing a case before the person that made it actually makes it?

Don't just pull stuff out of context... there's enough to slog through in this thread as it is. Read and understand the context before you throw out accusations that i have to respond to.
Kcdaspot wrote: Where did i ignore and/or twist any cases?
Sigh. Yes, i yawned when vibebox voted me with no reason. How can i 'ignore' his case if it doesn't exist?

Kcdaspot wrote: TWISTAN [/b]
I don't see anything twisted there. What did i twist?
Kcdaspot wrote: I may have 'dismissed' a case on me after discussing it (if you are talking about me saying something like 'i dont think that's a substantive case')... but what's scummy about that?
1. That isn't a dismissal.
2. I'm telling him that he mixed up two different arguments.

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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:22 am

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I'm okay with this...

VOTE: MoI

wanted to complete the picture for D1... lets see how it goes on later days
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:28 am

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So, apparently implosion has claimed and... well, it kinda sucks since I had an awesome case on him. So I guess that puts implosion and GW at super Town, I guess. No way this is a gambit.

Zdenek is pinging some of mah Town sensors, as he had earlier. I like his points, really comes of as someone who really thinks stuff through to read alignments. Definitely indicative of Town. I also really like the fact that he is always taking unpopular stances, like Seacore or even me without attempting to push his thoughts down our throats.

Vibebox is just digging himself more into his hole. Too many excuses everywhere. I dislike his #416, where he tries to explain his stance without explaining his stance and then voting a ???? read instead of his supposed scum read. I actually feel better about him being scum given his flakage. I've seen newbscum flake out under pressure. In fact, my first game here was replacing a newbscum flaker. #456 is where he actually starts explaining himself...but at this stage, it's too little too late. I think that there is a good chance he's scum-stalling, but as today's lynch...I'd rather wait till he gets replaced so we can get a claim.

Mr. Einstein enters. NewbTown. End analysis. It's pretty obvious he's trying hard and failing.

RedCoyote is lurking pretty badly. Not sure what to think of this. I've never seen his Town game before, but his scum game involves some form of lurking. His Scum game is quite careful too. His shorter analysis upon entering is...weird. It's usually a lot longer. He also has a grand total of 9 posts, 2 long ones and 7 other "Hey I need to post something" posts.

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Onto MoI. I know I've called him scum before(via: "Are we[Fate n Vas] tuned in the same frequency?" on MoI"], but let me get into that. It all started on ISO #4. I found it very weird that he was attacking podium with an 'unimpressive scumhunt' angle. I don't even get his statements here. He's basically nitpicking podium's quotes and interpretting them in bad way.

He is also part of the AVDWPVSNU(Alliance Versus Douchebags Who Post Vague Sentences Noone Understands) on the earlier part of the game with me and seacore. In fact, he seemed pretty focused on Vibebox in a weird way. Me n' Seacore, we just gave 'em a slap on the wrist and a warning. MoI seemed pretty content in arguing over 'Stop being vague'.

ISO #6 has some pretty bad attacks on Podium. I've read up on his attacks...and for some reason, I'm getting the feeling of MoI drowing podium with awesomely worded attacks, but definitely lacking substance. It's kind of like he's expecting podium to be THE WORLD'S GREATEST AND MOST PERFECT SCUMHUNTER EVER otherwise he's scum.

This was why I was suspicious of him before I started to lurk. MoI, however, has looked worse now.

Let's look at MoI's evolution of reads:
Vibebox, who he argued with for the first part of the game and nothing happened with that argument.
Podium, at the height of podium vs. Fate.
implosion, who he threatened to hammer.

I have a feeling that it's far too much of a coincidence that he's mostly actively pursuing the most popular targets...whilst distancing with Vibebox(another good scum candidate). I also find it weird that he's more intent in smearing people with scummy actions rather than attempting to read into them. I find his ISO filled with accusations, lots of them that he rarely followed up. Unlike, say Zdenek who's accusations make sense and are though through. ISO #22 is a good example, ISO #18 is too.

However, what really sold me was MoI vs. Nacho. I think this argument speaks for itself. MoI is actively deflecting Nacho's points by either by pointing it towards other players, by answering them as vaguely as possible or by attacking the argument instead of addressing it. This speaks MoI scum to me, hands down.

I think I'll be threatening the hammer now.
MoI, claim.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:28 am

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Actually, wait. he's not even in L-1.

Vote: MoI.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:31 am

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podium 711 wrote:i'm a little suspicious of your attitude here. especially with this 'i feel like fate and/or nacho didn't want vibebox to bite the bullet' theory... they were both on him at L-1 for days. how is your statement justified, when considering that fact?
That's a good point. I hadn't considered that.

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Kcda, I'm very uncomfortable with your unwillingness to stick to a position.

But given that I don't feel like I'm in the position to be challenging a lynch here, I think I'll have to concede to the majority. I don't understand why Magna or why now, but I also can't sit here and say VB is more deserved.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:38 am

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VasudeVa wrote:Actually, wait. he's not even in L-1.

Vote: MoI.
YES, ACTUALLY, HE WAS IN L-1... KCDA REVOTED.

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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:40 am

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oh wait. i'm stupid.
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:48 am

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RC wrote:
Kcda, I'm very uncomfortable with your unwillingness to stick to a position.
Hey right now I'm stickin here.. no worries man.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:58 am

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I don't really like this MoI wagon, but I'll have a closer look at it at work today.

Right now I'd be all for a Kcda lynch, his play screams newbie scum. I also don't like how Vibe has saved himself by disappearing
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:07 am

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I'd buy the "Vibe saved himself" type of stuff that keeps getting brought up if he hadn't bailed from the site completely, whilst earlier mentioning a new job...
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:06 pm

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Umm... why aren't you hammering? We don't have any time whatsoever left. At this point, it's lynch MoI or no-lynch.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:21 pm

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We still have over 24 hours. So calm down Nacho.
I'd like MoI to claim first.

Vibe isn't so far away fromt he threshold that we can't move people there in this time.

My current picks for scum are Vibe and Kcda

And GW, I'm not saying that Vibe has dissapeared in order to save himself, but that doesn't change that his absence should completely undo all the scumminess that he did.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:23 pm

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And now that you're here, comment on the MoI wagon. ;)
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:29 pm

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Haven't had a chance to review yet, but regardless of my views, I'm willing to wait to let him claim.
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:41 pm

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We have...43ish hours left from this post, I believe, assuming 12:34 PST means PM.

MoI indeed needs to claim as soon as he can. Nacho's case definitely looks better to me than MoI's rebuttal.

Also, Kcda looks more noobtown to me than noobscum. He's making real efforts at scumhunting, and I just don't see noobscum when I look at his posts.
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:52 pm

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Fret not, Nacho. I will hold the hammer without a problem. But I want a claim.
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:56 pm

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From my experience of modding MoI, he's always v/la on weekends because he has a young family. So I'd be expecting him back soonish. In plenty of time for me to hammer if necessary.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:12 pm

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Seacore I betterr see conteent now that you're online
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:14 pm

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1) Bite me, I'll post content when I want

2) My content is irrelevant, I MoI's claim is what we're waiting for.

3) Small summary, I don't like the case on MoI, but MoI has tricked me before.

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