Mini 1095 - Fast Food Mafia - Game Over

[CooLDoG]

The board is acting really funny at the molment for me... Its all white and weird.

@inhim, I find him not willing to give up flavor after he claimed miller scummy. How is that?

[EtherealCookie]

A power role is any role with an ability.

Ability.
Miller does not have an ability.
You have the ability to use the knowledge of a player's establishment to do something related with roles, with what you've implied so far.
[quote="Dictionary]ability - power or capacity to do or act physically, mentally, legally, morally, financially, etc. [/quote]

[EtherealCookie]

Ugh..
Always forget that last quotation mark.

[Zang]

Votecount-

CooLDoG - 4 - (AntB, Chronopie, SnakePlissken, EtherealCookie) (L-3)
Peanutman - 1 - (Confidanon) (L-6)
AntB - 1 - (ragrhcpfreak) (L-6)
Thestatusquo - 2 - (CooLDoG, StrangerCoug) (L-5)
StrangerCoug - 1 - (Thestatusquo) (L-6)

Not Voting: InHimshallibe, ChannelDelibird, Peanutman

7 needed to lynch

Deadline is December 28 at 3:15 pm EST


Prodding Chronopie

[EtherealCookie]

And to clarify, scum has no motivation to kill Miller more than another townie, so it doesn't matter if he reveals it. He doesn't have some special ability that'll hinder them. It just shows he's a regular townie. You, on the other hand, have an ability. If you're pro-town, then you've just put a role that could've helped us in a lot of risk.

[Chronopie]

/prodded

Could have sworn I posted more recently than Friday

w/e.

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I don't really have much to stay atm.

I think the miller claim is probably genuine, but not dismissing scum gambit. If he's a genuine miller, scum will leave him alive, to generate suspicion and a secondary distraction, if it's a scum gambit, well he's hardly going to be scum NK. Further, I don't see the point in continuing to press for a joint claim, as I doubt it's relevant at this point in time.

Cooldog's joint claim of KFC was pointless. As we already knew that power (if you have one) was associated with role. VI.

[peanutman]

First of all, I feel that CoolDog is either VI (for soft-claiming simply to get TSQ to reveal his establishment) or 3rd party. Either way, I don't think he should be today's lynch. I think by day two or three though, it would be worth looking into the way he was criticized and voted on. If he's not scum (and I don't think he is based on what I've seen from him), then I truly believe there has to be at least one opportunistic scum on his wagon. To use TSQ line, I fail to see any scum-motivation for his actions (and relentless pursuit of a flavour claim).

As for TSQ, his stand on not revealing his flavour, I could see in two ways. Either a truly straightforward townie sticking to his principles or scum playing the gambit to the full.

I'm not convinced that CooLDoG is scum and the reason I unvoted EtherealCookie is because I think he's acting pretty pro-town now. That, to me, leaves it as a tossup between AntB's indecisiveness and Thestatusquo's reluctance to nameclaim after claiming miller right now, but since Thestatusquo has said he's not going to nameclaim unpressured, I think I'll get what I want if I VOTE: Thestatusquo.

@Strangercoug, reading this, I get the impression you're more interested in his establishment than on determining if he's scum. That's rather suspicious to me. FOS.

However, the bigger fish to fry right now it Chronopie.
VOTE: Chronopie Here's why (post by post) :
0-4 : confirm - RVS - idle chat
5 : Echoes StrangerCoug and basically repeats the same thing.
6 :

StrangeCoug's reaction, I see as perfectly normal. It's what I'd do myself (had I been first to see/comment). His responses since, and the Convo with Cooldog...
Cooldog's reaction, and demand for a fast food joint claim just seems... Bad. One of Cooldog or Coug is probably Scum. I don't think both are though.

I just don't feel this post. It seems like he's going through the motions but doesn't buy it himself. Also, his suspicion of Coug seems to disagree with the first part of his post.
7 : Elaborates on his suspicion of CoolDog and Coug after TSQ questions it.

Their Back and Forth. It's high attention, and faintly buddying, If they were both scum, it would be a very bad idea.

However, what he says reads to me like they are both town. Once again, I don't feel he believes his own suspicions.
8 : After being prodded, has nothing to say about the last 3 pages. Repeats what has been said ad nauseum about the miller claim and CoolDog's subsequent claim.

To sum up, he just isn't putting effort in scumhunting because I don't think he has any desire to. Even his accusations lack intent. He hasn't even questioned anyone about anything.

tl;dr, no scumhunting, no content, no effort, parroting = scum looking to cruise into D2.

[peanutman]

Sorry for the double post. I meant to add that Chronopie 's vote hasn't changed since RVS (still on CoolDog). Although he has been suspicious of him, he hasn't really reaffirmed his vote since RVS.

[CooLDoG]

@EC, yet it is still a power role. In the non-vanilla sence. And why are you defending TSQ? Do you happen to know his flavor?

[ChannelDelibird]

I completely forgot I replaced into this game. Reading up.

[Thestatusquo]

@EC, yet it is still a power role. In the non-vanilla sence. And why are you defending TSQ? Do you happen to know his flavor?

Clearly someone disagreeing with you means they are "defending [me]" and must also know my flavor by virtue of being scum with me? Do you at all think about the implications of the things you say, or is it pretty much like just whatever comes out of your mouth?

[CooLDoG]

@TSQ, I implied just that, glad you caught it.

[Thestatusquo]

Those are really the only scenarios that you can see? Forget about, for a second, whether they're the most likely. You can't think of any other reasoning?

[AntB]

@CooLDoG
So just to be sure I haven't completely lost my mind, your saying TSQ and EC are the scumteam. Based on TSQ not willing to nameclaim and EC defending him?

[StrangerCoug]

The more I think about CooLDoG now, the less I like him.

[Zang]

Prodding SnakePlissken.

[SnakePlissken]

Responding to prod. Will post later.

[Chronopie]

Sorry for the double post. I meant to add that Chronopie 's vote hasn't changed since RVS (still on CoolDog). Although he has been suspicious of him, he hasn't really reaffirmed his vote since RVS.

Oh, I'm sorry. [/sarcasm]

I reaffirm my vote. How's that?

[CooLDoG]

@AntB, that is one possibility. But their could be many others. For example, TSQ could quite possibly be a miller. That would mean that EC would be more townish. However, I don't see TSQ being anything but scum. Refusing to give information to the town is not pro-town.

@TSQ, did I ever say those were the ONLY two situations?

[inHimshallibe]

I think it is good play to claim right off the bat, miller is the standard scum claim. I honestly don't think a town player would claim miller unless they have a death wish. Yes thats wifom but I just find scum claiming miller so early un-likly.

CooLDoG, what changed from this point to where you are now demanding flavor from Tsq?

[CooLDoG]

After I realized that flavor would be the best way of truly determining if he is lying. I also wanted a complete claim...

[inHimshallibe]

After I realized that flavor would be the best way of truly determining if he is lying. I also wanted a complete claim...

You never stated this as a reason.

I happen to think you're pulling it out of your nether regions. Not sure if you're scum because of it.

[CooLDoG]

Have I ever stated a reason before now for asking for his flavor? Until now the I've only been talking about his out-right refusal to give flavor... But admit, him not giving away his flavor with no explanation (other then, I'm not giving info to scum after I've already claimed) is scummy.

[inHimshallibe]

Have I ever stated a reason before now for asking for his flavor? Until now the I've only been talking about his out-right refusal to give flavor...

But admit, him not giving away his flavor with no explanation (other then, I'm not giving info to scum after I've already claimed) is scummy.

No, I will not admit this. It is utterly null.

Again, that you're so focused on this...

[CooLDoG]

I agree that I'm very focused on this.