Mini 1094 - Mariposa Peak Mafia - Game Over!

[singersigner]

I promise no such thing. I plan on lynching those who seem scummiest. Right now, with your little gambit, that's you. Are you purposely been ignoring my questions, or have you just not seen them yet?

Also, we're not the only ones who have you pegged as scum because of this. Take a look at the last page or two.

[Guderian]

The difference is some of those other people are actually scum.

[singersigner]

Are you purposely been ignoring my questions, or have you just not seen them yet?

[Guderian]

[singersigner]

Gud, I have a question for you (or maybe a couple):
-You say you got what you wanted, but isn't it more pro-town to get what the town wanted? Which is to not have to decide whether your play was for our benefit or not. I don't find your cocky attitude or your self-righteousness that you've actually done some town some good to be appealing at all.
-What about false-claiming SK did you think we would understand?
-Did you account for the potential mislynch (if you're now telling the truth) that might happen if no one agreed with you?
-Can you reiterate what information we were supposed to gain from this again?

[Carrotcake]

Argh, I'm so busy that I'm teetering close to replacement.

Singer:

Did you account for the potential mislynch (if you're now telling the truth) that might happen if no one agreed with you?

Strange question.
The only purpose of it that I can see is: Guerd didn't think this through - He's a moron - Lynch the Moron.
But wait, there's more!
For this purpose to even be conceived you need one thing: inside information. Who has inside information?

(if you're now telling the truth)

Stinks of afterthought. You instinctively know what you've said is damning and hoped to cover it up.

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Thor:

Is it only because of the relation between us you find it so questionable?

It is the certainty he had on following your weak case, and the apparent thoughtlessness he had put into it. He was obviously sheeping, and your past relation or lack of isn't even an issue.

I've come to realize that targeting you if only because I don't have the momentum to lynch Agar (or seraph!), isn't the most respectable thing to do. But perhaps it's the most efficient.

What do you think of Agar in this game?
or seraph?
or singer?

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SKIP EVERYTHING BUT THIS, TOWN

SKIP EVERYTHING BUT THIS, TOWN

SKIP EVERYTHING BUT THIS, TOWN

SKIP EVERYTHING BUT THIS, TOWN

Seraph:

VIs aren't always scum but certain players are always going to look scummy when you push their buttons.

Spin it around, baby.
Do you believe people who go after VIs, for the sake of being VIs, scummy?
The answer is yes.
Your so called case on my is based on that.


Misrep-Strawman. You sure love buzzwords!
Work in advertising.
Though, learn what they mean first.

LOL STRAWMAN TRY AGAIN. Guder isn't a VI. If he's town, his play was stupid, yes, but not indicative of a VI.

Haha
Semantics
Define VI?

Guder isn't a VI

If he's town, his play was stupid

I ask you
Why are you voting for Guder?
Even at this post you refuse to give out reasons, and have resorted to ad-hom, and tackling on him for being a village idiot, or a normal idiot. Whatever you advertising people thinks sell more.

Dear God, your ego is hilarious. Now, Mr. Mastermind, are you going to sit around while we lynch you...

Push this baseless lynch harder, baby.

If I have insider knowledge,
A. Why baselessly declare players town?
B. Why Thor in paticular?
C. How does it make any sense for us to be scum together which you seem to be implying based on your vote?

Perception.
A: If you are town you have baselessly declared.
B: If you are scum you have inside knowledge.

A is irrational
It's likely B

B. Why Thor in paticular?

YOU ANSWER ME, YOU DID IT!
YOU DID IT!!!!!!

C. How does it make any sense for us to be scum together which you seem to be implying based on your vote?

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Look up. And read.
I didn't imply you were scum

together

because of what you said.
I implied

you

were scum.
Wait, is this a misrep-strawman-hydra!?!?

Also, BY THE WAY, ever heard of GUT? I use it, a lot. I find it to be highly superior to trying to use logic because logic tends to fail people in a game of illogical people and illogical actions. Thor gives out a solid pro-town vibe. Am I supposed to outline some sort of town case for him?

Yes you should create a case.
You have done a dangerous thing, you must outline a case for him being town. Before being idiotic and spreading your, now admitted, baseless beliefs.
I love your change in tone too:
From: "Thor is so town it hurts." - implies confidence
to
"It's Gut" - Implies opinion and fallibility. Basically ret-conning his scummy attitude.

Momentum on thor is dying. So now I can persuit what I really want.

/vote Seraph

Or you know we could spin a bottle.
Because being mystical is better than being logical, right seraph?

[Carrotcake]

Read it in order please.
I didn't realize thor's moment dissapitated until I was re-reading seraph. And it's not really my style to edit what I type.

[Carrotcake]

Guder, please relax and start making sense. Your ego irritates.

[Blood Queen]

Back starting tomorrow. Sorry it dragged out >.<

[Thor665]

What do you think of Agar in this game?
or seraph?
or singer?

1. More lurky than I'm used to and waiting for an explanation of his last vote to draw clearer conclusions. I liked hi splay on BQ as that felt very AGartown to me, but the Gud move has me doubting that read.

2. No particularly brilliant read yet. I liked his catchup post, I didn't like the slapping at Gud. All I've really got here is a newbie read, and those are annoying.

3. Town.


@Carrot - you've dinged seraph for a change of tune as regards his read on me, but in the same post you're discussing how voting me because you suspect AGar (or seraph) isn't so optimal. Thoughts?

@Powerrox - read on Carrotcake's voting me because she finds people calling me town scummy on my part - go!

[Reckamonic]

here's what happens: You get lynched

Please self-vote

self voting. didnt know that was good for town.

It's not. Except you're not town, so...

[Powerrox93]

Today has been a though day for me RL and tomorrow will probably be just as though due to final final tests in school and really long days.
Will try to read what I've missed tonight but if that doesn't happens something will come tomorrow.

[Powerrox93]

I only have time for a quick post now

I was kidding about claiming serial killer

Stop reading that post their.
I don't accept un-claims that easy.

Sims singer and power NEED TO PROMISE that tomorrow, If I am lynched, they will not support ANY lynch on any of the other two. The lynch will look tempting. It will seem to make sense. Its going to seem tempting. But unless there is a cop with a guilty, you ARE NOT to lynch among your little threesome. Day 3 and on, sure, but tomorrow, please dont. If any of you are attacked, you MUST defend each other. Otherwise town will almost definitely lose.

No way I'm making that kind of promise. What

if

, emphasizing if, someone of them is staring to look more scummier that you're now.

[Reckamonic]

Carrot's case on Seraphim in 280 is really, really, really weak. But we're not going to respond to it. We'll let Sera take care of that.

[DemonHybrid]

I am not dying, not anymore than any of us are at any moment. We run, hopefully as fast as we can, and then everyone must stop. We can only choose how we handle the race.
Hugh Elliott, Standing Room Only weblog comments, 06-11-04

Vote Count

Day 1 Vote Count (#12)

Guderian

- 6 (Reckamonic, singersigner, Powerrox93, Seraphim, sims5487, AGar)

Seraphim

- 1 (Carrotcake)

AGar

- 1 (Blood Queen)

Powerrox93

- 1 (Thor665)

ConfidAnon

- 1 (Guderian)

Not Voting

- 2 (Rhinox, ConfidAnon)

With 12 players, it takes 7 to lynch and 6 for a No Lynch. Deadline is scheduled for December 21st, 2010 at 1:00:00 AM Eastern Standard Time.

Powerrox93 will be V/LA after Sunday, December 26th until an unknown time.

Rhinox is V/LA on the weekends (Friday to Sunday)

You have SEVEN days to lynch.

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[Guderian]

All recka has done is declare "Guder is not town", "guder is not town", "hammer yourself", "shut up scum"....etc, not much more. No comments about other players. Why? Because he wants to ram this mislynch down.

unvote

Vote: reckamonic

[Reckamonic]

Partly because we've BOTH been extremely busy with finals and end of the semester and stuff, and partly because you're obviously scum.

[Guderian]

Actually, I have found that usually only scum call others "obv scum". Not sure why this is, usually it seems to stem from an inner knowledge that the person is not scum, ergo they aren't committing scum actions, ergo the actual scum must appeal to emotion more than a townie does.

which is what you're doing. Which is why you're scum.

[Reckamonic]

Actually, I have found that usually only scum call others "obv scum".

Which is why you're scum.

logical fallacy much?

If you were actually playing mafia instead of playing "let's be scummy and say it's intended", perhaps we might unvote you.

[Reckamonic]

ergo they aren't committing scum actions

That's a good one.

[singersigner]

Actually, I have found that usually only scum call others "obv scum". Not sure why this is, usually it seems to stem from an inner knowledge that the person is not scum, ergo they aren't committing scum actions, ergo the actual scum must appeal to emotion more than a townie does.

which is what you're doing. Which is why you're scum.

I mean, you've definitely done more AtE than I've anyone do in this game. Calling someone obv scum/obv town doesn't really fit into that category. I see Carrot's kindly taken over answering one of the questions I've asked you. However, I'd really like to see you answer them...for once...

[Guderian]

This is too much for my soul to bear.

DAYKILL: singersinger

[Reckamonic]

Guderian in ISO. It's a fascinating read when you want to know what scum looks like!

0: hello world
1: love me please?
2: I now have a read on a person whose only post is a random vote and a joke
3: This "I'm a Queen. I don't need to say hello" is very nervous and scummy!
4: OMG SOMEONE ASKED ME A QUESTION! evasive answer... be vague as possible...
5: Ah, that good ol game that has nothing to do with this one!
6: I dont know how scum plays or who scum is, I'm not scum. Derp derp! I also think scums have personalities!
7: Tee hee, I'm making a funny comment. Wait, this isnt why I vote BQ earlier right?
8: Explain to me why I'm scum so I can not be scum against next game. Also, don't mind the fact you should explain your comment when I dont have to explain my BQ vote.
9: I shall now heavily misrep AGar, that will mostly appear town!
10: Oh, let's add another vote without explanation, since my vote shouldn't be explained, unlike people calling me scum!
11: Actually, let's put my vote somewhere else...
12: teehee, I made a funny!
13: Hey, the world totally changed since 60 games ago. Also, it's 3scum a sk, but dont tell anyone!
14: OMG, I'M POSTING AN OPINION!
15: Did I mention I love misrepping AGar? WEll, I do.
16: Sim disagrees with me! He MUST be scum!
17: newbies are aaaaaall identical!
18: SS, Tell me why I'm wrong, please.
19: No, I will NOT explain why I want to lynch Thor, that's not my job... right?
20: I ALREADY SAID YOU MUST FIND WHY THOR IS SCUM, LEAVE ME ALOOOOONE!
21: STOOOOOOOOOOP IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!
22: Guys, I think there's scum within half the playerlist! Also, I'M a SK, lawls!
23: Guys, COnfid is scum! His reads can change, he doesnt like lurkers and he wants me to make a case.
24: I'm cryyyyyptic!
25: I have a master plan, now that I have brought all the lights on myself I can execute it!
26: seraph, do you believe me? tell meeeee!
27: I dont like your post, so I wont answer.
28: Power, I may not do anything worthwhile, but YOU should.
29: AGar, how dare you put me at L-1 and ask for a claim when that is how the game has always been played? Also, I was kidding earlier, I won't claim in case someone doesnt believe me, although I'm totally honest, yep!
Also, it hurts the anti-town people to put every spotlight on myself by being super scummy and softclaiming a PR on which I can give no detail. Really, it does!
30: give me a second, I'm not done reading
31: Good defense, doesn't mean my case is bad at all.
32: OOOOOOOH you are an idiot sim!
33: According to these flawed data I got (ignore the fact I stated earlier that 60 game ago is incompatible with now), I think scum wins because they do nothing, and I'm doing stuff, so I'm town! Also, we should information hunt before having info, and sometimes on day 2 town is lynched, so you guys dont know how to play the game! Also, lookit my ego ^^
34: I wont claim, because I've nothing to actually claim. THat or my information will hurt the town, even though if I have any role the doc can surely protect me and I'll be roleblocked to submission if a roleblocker exists. Also, if my role is reflexive I'll fuck over the doc, so I shouldn't claim, no sir!
35: If you lynch me you'll get lynched, because apparently my scumminess transfers to you. This is not a threat, at all.
36: I love the newbies, so let's not lynch them! If I die, the newbies die. Hey, I heard that coming from a gangster in a movie I saw the other day!
37: I won't reply to your argument, because you're crazy. That makes me town.
38: Newbies, do a non-suicide pact for me please. I can read your minds, and you'll want to lynch each other. threeaaaaaaaaaaaaaats.
39: I haz unexplained townreads
40: pictures are funny, even though this one is cryptic
41: Look at the shiny kitties, they dont like me! KILL THEM! Don't ISO them, there are only posts about me there.
42: You're scum for calling me scum. HAH, GOT YOU!
43: I can't understand SS, therefore I'll daykill her after claiming she's town multiple times

[Guderian]

Blatant misrepresentation on almost every post. If I am alive tomorrow, you're next.

Also reading another game, someone brought up some interesting questions. Considering Gud-scum,

Where are the scumbuddies?
Where is the counterwagon?

[Reckamonic]

Blatant misrepresentation on almost every post. If I am alive tomorrow, you're next.

Yet you don't explain how any of the post is a misrep.
And you might want to consider explaining WHY THE FUCK you shot one of your townreads...

Considering Gud-scum,

Where are the scumbuddies?
Where is the counterwagon?

Bussing you (sim) and going "hey, we should compromise" (carrotcake)
The counterwagon would be Seraphim, except nobody is buying into Carrot's crap, so it's not taking off.