Mini 1095 - Fast Food Mafia - Game Over

[CooLDoG]

How would him giving up his flavor help the scum? Excluding any silly roles.

[inHimshallibe]

How would him giving up his flavor help the scum? Excluding any silly roles.

No idea. However, it doesn't help town nor does it hurt scum. If Tsq is town, I want him to be able to use it to help town or hurt scum.

And why, praytell, should we exclude silly roles?

[CooLDoG]

It will help the town if it reveals that he is in fact scum, and would thus hurt the scum... And the exclusion of silly roles is simply to prevent some bullshit answer (like, ohh the scums have a role that if a players flavor is revealed they get a 1-shot day ending vig power!) , not that you gave one.

[inHimshallibe]

It will help the town if it reveals that he is in fact scum, and would thus hurt the scum... And the exclusion of silly roles is simply to prevent some bullshit answer (like, ohh the scums have a role that if a players flavor is revealed they get a 1-shot day ending vig power!) , not that you gave one.

You're talking in circles, and it's really annoying.

[inHimshallibe]

[Planning Fallacy]Will finish the reread tomorrow.[/Planning Fallacy]

[StrangerCoug]

I still don't understand CooLDoG's flavor push. Why should TSQ give scum ideas on how to write fakeclaims?

UNVOTE: Thestatusquo, whose chain I've stopped caring about
VOTE: CooLDoG

[Zang]

Votecount-

Chronopie - 1 - (Peanutman) (L-6)
CooLDoG - 5 - (StrangerCoug, AntB, Chronopie, SnakePlissken, EtherealCookie) (L-2)
Peanutman - 1 - (Confidanon) (L-6)
AntB - 1 - (ragrhcpfreak) (L-6)
Thestatusquo - 1 - (CooLDoG) (L-6)
StrangerCoug - 1 - (Thestatusquo) (L-6)

Not Voting: InHimshallibe, ChannelDelibird

7 needed to lynch

Deadline is December 28 at 3:15 pm EST

[ChannelDelibird]

Limited access until Tuesday.

[Chronopie]

I still don't understand CooLDoG's flavor push. Why should TSQ give scum ideas on how to write fakeclaims?

This makes it sound as though you

know

that scum don't have fakeclaims. I would have expected they'd have had a list of unused chains. It's what I would have done as mod.

HoS: SC

I'd still rather see cooldog swing though.

[StrangerCoug]

I still don't understand CooLDoG's flavor push. Why should TSQ give scum ideas on how to write fakeclaims?

This makes it sound as though you

know

that scum don't have fakeclaims. I would have expected they'd have had a list of unused chains. It's what I would have done as mod.

HoS: SC

Anybody can theoretically say "I am chain X." But it takes brainpower to fake "I am chain X, which has such and such a reputation, does such and such stuff, or whatever I figure the mod would have written up." I am referring to this brainpower, of which it takes less if scum has a model.

[rajrhcpfreak]

i understand Cool's logic, ive gotten into that trap before.
hes scummy because he wont claim, he wont claim because he hasnt done anything scummy.
yes it was the correct move to come clean early instead of waiting for a cop claim to come guilty and outs both of them.

ok, what if shea claims his role, and one of us townspeople actually have that role. we counterclaim him and then the next night a confirmed townie dies.
its better for him to use his role to try to trip scum up when they claim.

[CooLDoG]

@Rajrh, exactly. Finally some body begins to understand my point about this.
@SC,After the first flip the scum will have ideas on how to fake claim. And most of the time scum is not lynched on d-1.
@inhim, I'm will talk in circles until you understand my point. We know how his flavor could help the town. We don't know if it could help the scum at all.

[SnakePlissken]

Mod - Request Replacement please. I cannot do this game justice and thats unfair on everyone else. Sorry to all.

[Zang]

lewarcher82 replaces SnakePlissken

[lewarcher82]

hi everyone I will now finish reading, gimme one day. My catch-up post comes tomorrow.

[inHimshallibe]

hi everyone I will now finish reading, gimme one day. My catch-up post comes tomorrow.

Such a better person than me.

[inHimshallibe]

Currently at the top of page 5.

Coug, Cookie, peanutman read as town.
chronopie, antb not so much.

no opinion on the others at the moment.

[inHimshallibe]

It's cool that you want flavor. Unfortunately, I'm the one whos opinion matters about what I think is most helpful for the town from my standpoint. If you think I'm scummy, string me up. If not, lets stop talking about it and lynch some scumz.

Your choice.

When people make posts like this, I'm inclined to take them up on it.

Still processing.

And yes, you might get one hundred posts from me. You'll read those as opposed to a wall.

[inHimshallibe]

Unvote, Vote: peanutman

Jesus hell.

vote: ConfidAnon

Backtrack of AntB (agree with raj AntB is fishy as well), weak-ankled stances, and a completely terrible vote.

Let's lynch this one.

ConfidAnon, AntB, Chronopie, Tsq. Scumteam in thar.

[inHimshallibe]

You might get explanations if I feel benevolent enough tomorrow. I will get around to explaining most of these

TOWN
inHim -
peanutman - biggest point for this is AntB's vote on him
rajrhcpfreak - KYKrew gonna do some damage in this one.
EtherealCookie - reading way too into things
StrangerCoug - suspicion on him is mysterious

NO IDEA
lewarcher - HAI
CDB - HAI. APPROACHING SCUM IF THE LURKLURKLURK GOES ONONON

OMG WTF
CooLDoG - whoever said third party might get town points.
Thestatusquo - scum who cried mislynch?

SCUM HERE
Chronopie - [mental note to flesh this one out in particular]
Confidanon - THIS IS WHERE THE VOTES GO.
AntB - feeling peer pressure from town?

[inHimshallibe]

RAJ> PICK THREE?

[AntB]

@InHimShallBe
You get a town read on peanutman because I voted him earlier..? And actually I don't feel any pressure currently.

[peanutman]

I reaffirm my vote. How's that?

Thanks for your response to my post 182. But do you have anything to say about 181? I find it odd that you just chose to respond to the second minor post, completely ignoring the first.

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@IHSIB, could you please elaborate on your suspicion of ConfidAnon? You bring interesting points, but you only briefly explain them in 218. I know your catching-up, but you got to back up those statement. I'd like to see support for his "weak-ankled stances". He definitely caved quickly with AntB, I'd have to read him closer (and have more content to read) in order to to getter a better handle on if his actions are scum-motivated or not.
Regarding his vote for me, I interpreted it as a "hey, you haven't posted in 4 days, 3.5 pages, be useful". With the lack of explanation, and no longer in RVS, I didn't take it as a meaningful vote. On the other hand, it's been 3 days since his last post (and vote for me).

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@inhim, I'm will talk in circles until you understand my point. We know how his flavor could help the town. We don't know if it could help the scum at all.

I hope you don't talk in circles until he (or someone else) understands your point. Basically, not everyone agrees with the second part (that it could help town, but we don't know if it could help scum). Some people see it in other ways. I doubt you will get much further in this (probably more geared towards a theory debate anyways), and, at this point, it's distracting us from other events and cases being built. It's safe to say that enough has been said on this issue that people came make up their minds if TSQ's refusal to reveal flavour is scummy (or not), and whether your incessant push for it is (or isn't). I sincerely hope your next post doesn't contain the word "flavour" or "claim".

[ConfidAnon]

Unvote

Reason for the vote: I was bored with the game. To me, it seemed like all the discussion was revolving around CooLDoG and TSQ (not real interesting stuff, and only focusing on two people). I wanted to know how a vote placed on someone who had been quiet (I hadn't remembered seeing something from peanutman in a while) would affect what people were saying.

Honestly, the only things of note were you noticing it (good) and peanutman ignoring it (odd). He did start posting again, but other than that, nothing. I'll be honest, I'm not sure what exactly I was looking to happen, but an unexpected thing could potentially bring up unexpected actions, leading to unexpected information.

[Chronopie]

@Peanut: While I disagree with your sentiments in #181,

most

of your points are valid.

#5: I made the post before I saw Coug's response, then preview edited to not just say

exactly

the same thing. Invalid.
#6:

I just don't feel this post. It seems like he's going through the motions but doesn't buy it himself. Also, his suspicion of Coug seems to disagree with the first part of his post.

I don't understand where you're pulling this from. I explained that my suspicion of Coug was from the interactions with cooldog

after

the miller discussion.
#7: I feel that one of SC/Cooldog is likely scum, but probably not both.

And it's more Apathy than any real intent to cruise. Parroting is purely unintentional, and I like to have some NA's to work with before I get into the swing of the game.