Open 263 - The Wild Life [Game Over]

[DavidParker]

I just iso'd myself (to remind myself of my earlier views and vote movement), and see no reason as to how I'm either werewolf or scum.

I sub into the game and immediately post suspicions of Shotty + Scott (erineyes), then state how i think they're both anti-town but on different factions, and i am reminded how much i was convinced SV was shotty's teammate, which does seem quite likely still. I also state how shotty is probably the best lynch at numerous times only occasionally do i push for other lynches stronger.. Not to mention me quoting SB

from an objective point of view this quote/post:

wake me up when we finally lynch shottie...

basically confirms me as non-wolf. If i was his wolf buddy the logical move here would be to attack SB for his bussing and tunneling with no reasoning. Instead I just quote it (implying my agreement). How anyone thinks i'm a wolf is beyond me, except for andrew because he is actually on the far lower end of the IQ scale.

There's "slightly" more reasoning to me being mafia, but it would still involve me busing BOTH my scum buddies. I only got off their back to vote for shotty or SV (who i still think is shotty's wolf buddy)

[DavidParker]

Just doing your town-hunting for you since you guys are hopeless.

[kunkstar7]

:: VoteCount 3x1 ::

andrew94 (0) -
smashbro_of_the_SSS (0) -
DavidParker (1) -

andrew94

Shattered Viewpoint (3) -

iamausername, Lateralus22, chkflip

Lateralus22 (0) -
jasonT1981 (0) -
chkflip (0) -
iamausername (0) -

Not Voting (4) -

smashbro_of_the_SSS, Shattered Viewpoint, jasonT1981, DavidParker

With 8 Alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline for Day Three is Wednesday, December 29, 6:00pm EST.

[Lateralus22]

"chkflip"]]Heyo Later, how's that a slip?

...Please dear God tell me I don't have to spell this out for you.

DP: werewolf = Lat or Jason
Dp: Werefolf didn't bus their buddy!!!

Information: Lat and Jason were both on the shotty lynch VERY early on and did nothing to stop it.

This is a case of saying one thing but really meaning another. His conclusion did not match up with what he believes.

Also, just because I played a fair game with you, as scum, doesn't mean I'm going to be scum in every game thereafter. Care to explain where I seem scummy to you, chief? So far, you've said nothing beyond "suspecting". Do give reason, please.

What? Who said anything about past games? I don't bring that kind of stuff any game.

[Lateralus22]

andrew because he is actually on the far lower end of the IQ scale.
Why are you constantly trying to destroy Andrew's credibility? His reads have been been better than yours all game.

[Lateralus22]

ebwop

andrew because he is actually on the far lower end of the IQ scale.

Why are you constantly trying to destroy Andrew's credibility? His reads have been been better than yours all game.

[jasonT1981]

quick check in.. Yes, I was on the Shotty wagon early I truely beleived he was scummy. As I showed I had meta suggesting he was not playing town (the link to the game with Me, Shotty, Andrew where Andrew was donig the same thing but Shotty reacted differently)

I agree with the above.. Despite what you say about Andrew and his gameplay his reads are actually pretty accurate. Still not ruling out Andrew being Scum/warewolf due to possible bussing. HOWEVER I do feel Andrew is town.DP's hammer was gery quick and without substance almost like trying to gain favor with town due to hammering scum. Bussing maybe?

Just doing your town-hunting for you since you guys are hopeless.

no, no no.. we SCUM HUNT.,.... Not TOWN HUNT.. why would you want to town hunt? fish for roles maybe? Scum much?

vote:DP

[Lateralus22]

fish for roles maybe?

Yo you in the full swing of things yet? All of town is vanilla >.>

[chkflip]

He said that because people are blindly calling him scum... for what? Hammering... scum? Bitch, please. I'm in a game where shotty hammered without just cause, warning, or shit anything, and that was alright. What's the corrolation?

You're fucking strawmanning. Hammering doesn't mean shit.

Furthermore, why the fffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck would ONE SOLITARY ANYTHING, be it wolf or mafia, kill off a partner in a 5-3-2 setup? (Or was it 7-3-2, IDR) Those numbers are already drastically small and rough for said groups, killing off your partner seems beyond a reasonable gambit.

Unless you're calling DP stoopid, in which case, he's definitely not as stupid as andrew.

P.S. Where's that self-hammer at?

P-EDIT: another great fucking point, thank you Later.

[Lateralus22]

chk who is that aimed at?

[chkflip]

@jason, Later. Fair point that I forgot to include his name... though I didn't expect you to jump in and post a single sentence.

[Lateralus22]

though I didn't expect you to jump in and post a single sentence.

What's your point? I had no idea what you were talking about.

[Lateralus22]

wait, chk do you think scum/werewolf are on the shotty or off? or both?

[jasonT1981]

fish for roles maybe?

Yo you in the full swing of things yet? All of town is vanilla >.>

Oh blah, thats the second game this week ive made that mistake in.

[chkflip]

I'd suspect that scummates would stay off one-another's wagons when it comes to dropping the hammer; however, it's not completely farfetched for them to vote for one-another for townpoints.

[Lateralus22]

chk, park put Scott at 5 votes IIRC for incredibly stupid reasons some point in time. I don't doubt bussing as a possibility at all.

[chkflip]

Indeed, but there hasn't been a hammer. Nor was Scott anywhere near lynched. See where I'm going with this? Bussing is always a possibility, I'm talking moreso about hammering.

[Lateralus22]

Doesn't matter, Park was an inevitable lynch, Scott put him at L-1 for christ sakes and it'd take a miracle for the other scum to stop him. Trying to demolish the park wagon day 2 would have been instant suicide.

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

Between mafia and werewolf, DP would definitely be mafia. He did hammer park, but losing one scum with the other (Scott) in a decent position in town isn't that big a gamble. If anything it might make him seem more townie. Also, a Scott/DP L-1 and lynch vote would effectively end the day early so as little connections to Park as possible (I know I harp on this, but ending the day one week early was a bit soon IMO).

Shotty on the otherhand seems like likely scum/werewolf and so does erineyes (scott).

It seems ALL the attention is on these 3 which is kinda worrisome since it's only day 1, but we'll have to make sure we switch our attention tomorrow. For now, I think we erineyes(scott) is the best lynch for today.

@SV: Ugh, no?

Vote: Shattered viewpoint

SV+Shotty team I feel.

Although, I still think Scott is on the other non-town team because of the way erineyes played.

I'm happy to hold of lynching him though.

Vote: parknourie

have to agree, andrew is probably town.

these are just a few posts from DP's ISO, early on in the game (mostly consecutive, though I skipped a couple filler). Notice how he repeatedly calls Scott scummy. And if I remembered correctly, there was a wagon on Scott at one point. But in the entire ISO, there is not one vote for Scott. Why is that DP?


Assuming Later's vote counts are correct, SV stayed off of the shotty wagon until L-2, with the post:

I'd rather lynch shotty than NO LYNCH. C'MON GUYS.

unvote

Vote: drmyshottyizsik

I don't know why SV would jump onto the wagon rather than not post at all, unless he wanted town points. Care to explain SV? Or care to come online at all?


I would prefer lynching SV, who hasn't really done much for this game to DP, based on who I think is mafia/werewolf. I'd like to see SV's two cents too, he hasn't been around toDay.

[jasonT1981]

I'm expecting a scum flip, i think jason or Later is a werewolf.

Right now,

we should be looking at who tried to derail

the shotty wagon or

didn't want a shotty lynch

because having your werewolf buddy lynched day 1 with a seer in the game is never a good idea

so I doubt he was bussed.

drmyshottyizsik (7) -silverbullet999,

jasonT1981, OpposedForce,

chkflip, Shattered Viewpoint, parknourie, DavidParker [Lynched.]

You've slipped

haha wow... yes indeed that is a slip.

[Lateralus22]

smash, guthrie = DP

but DP still took his vote off for a flimsy reason and never returned to Scott.

[andrew94]

gut is unacceptable. I want reasons as to why Scott is scum, actual evediance. Until you come up with solid quotes and reasons as proof shut the frack up. We are not lynching Scott.. got it?

why flip flop

I agree with the above.. Despite what you say about Andrew and his gameplay

his reads are actually pretty accurate

. Still not ruling out Andrew being Scum/warewolf due to possible bussing. HOWEVER I do feel Andrew is town.

[jasonT1981]

its not a flip...I still think your wanting a lynch on gut alone is rubbish. but I do have to give it to you your read was pretty good. Still not ruling out bussing though.

[andrew94]

but you mentioned you would not lynch scott...

[jasonT1981]

no, I said I would not lynch on your gut alone and I would need evidence to support he was scum. If the evidence was there I would have voted but you failed to bring anything other than gut. And I don't lynch people on gut