Mini 1086 - KGB Mafia Game Over

[Empking]

ReaperCharlie
Zdenek
Xdaamo

[ReaperCharlie]

bvoigt
katsuki
magna

[gandalf5166]

Well, right this second(keep in mind, I've only read 5 pages, but then my early game reads are usually pretty accurate), my top 3 would be:
Zdenek
ReaperCharlie(he replaced VM, right?)
With bvoigt as a DISTANT gut read

[ChannelDelibird]

Hi guys, I just got back from V/LA. I've been travelling for two straight days and I'm completely shattered (off to bed as soon as I've posted this message everywhere), but I'll be catching up tomorrow.

[Zdenek]

How is the statement made by vollkan in any way a suggestion that he will ‘reluctantly bus’? He doesn’t mention voting for CDB at all, only that CDB is not playing to his win condition if Town and should either contribute or replace out.

I feel like you answered your own question. If CDB fails to start posting, he must not not be town because by Vollkan's logic, if he was town, he'd replace out.

As far as your point 2 goes, do you not think that Vollkan would look scummier after that post if CDB flipped scum?

My top three are Vollkan, Bvoigt and Magna.

[ReaperCharlie]

Well, right this second(keep in mind, I've only read 5 pages, but then my early game reads are usually pretty accurate), my top 3 would be:
Zdenek
ReaperCharlie(he replaced VM, right?)
With bvoigt as a DISTANT gut read

Wait for your distant gut read on bvoigt to grow.
It'll eventually explode into a flaming ball of fire.

[Katsuki]

RC
zdenik

[Xdaamno]

bvoigt
Zdenek
danakillsu (SnakePlissken)

[LimMePls]

"For time and the world do not stand still. Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or the present are certain to miss the future."

-- John F. Kennedy

Vote Count
bvoigt (5) - Zdenek, DrippingGoofball, Xdaamno, danakillsu, ReaperCharlie
Katsuki (0) -
MagnaofIllusion (1) - ChannelDelibird
ReaperCharlie (1) - Gandalf5166
Zdenek (5) - vollkan, MagnaofIllusion, Empking, bvoigt, Katsuki
DrippingGoofball (0) -
danakillsu (0) -
Xdaamno (0) -
ChannelDelibird (0) -
Empking (0) -
Gandalf5166 (0) -
vollkan (0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (0) -

12 votes available, 7 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is Dec 23, ~11 pm EST

1)I am going to be travelling home for Christmas, starting this evening. Most of the time I do have for mafia will be focused on maintaining a smooth running game. Just wanted you all to have a heads up as we approach deadline that I may not be able to check the game immediately, but deadline WILL be imposed Thursday at 11:00pm EST. Lynch or no.

2) At this time, no player is due a prod. Carry on!

[ReaperCharlie]

Why am I now at the end of the bvoigt wagon? I never unvoted.

[DrippingGoofball]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Just noticed post #424, in which Katsuki votes MoI.

(one)

And then she switches to Zdenek, in post #441.

(two)

And when I call her out for voting zdenek, even though she hasn't seen the case on bvoigt (which she JUST asked for)...

...

she says she hasn't read the thread.

But she's already placed two votes.

She's scum with bvoigt, trying to push Zd's wagon to lynch.

I wuv you ReaperCharlie.

[DrippingGoofball]

bvoigt
Zdenek
SnakePlissken

Also, ReaperCharlie is town.

[Xdaamno]

Wow. Nice.

FOS: Katsuki on the condition Zdenek is town

[danakillsu]

Why am I now at the end of the bvoigt wagon? I never unvoted.

Post 447, page 18 ring a bell?

[ReaperCharlie]

Ohhhh... yeah. About that...

[bvoigt]

Zdenek
Xdaamno
danakillsu-- as it feels like Snake's lurking was intentional.

I'm starting to think that RC is a townie who's just plain wrong.

[ReaperCharlie]

But anyway, that doesn't matter. A vote's a vote and everyone knows I'm pushing the lynch.


Katsuki, if your top suspect is now ME (clearly omgus, btw), then why aren't you voting for me?
Also, why am I your top suspect? Also, please comment on the bvoigt accusations. In detail.

Empking, please state your reasons for voting Zdenek. Also in detail. No cop-outs allowed.

And does anyone else notice that bvoigt has gone silent and prefers to let others fight for him?

Seriously. vollkan. If you have any decency and you want this game to end favorably for town in the least, change your vote to bvoigt. Same to you, Magna. If you leave your vote on Zdenek, then you might as well sign this game over to scum as your last will and testament (and yes, I realize it's still just Day 1 and I'm being entirely overdramatic about all of this). But still. Feel the force flowing through you.

CDB, I agree, Magna is a scummy git this game. But can I coax you over to the bvoigt wagon?

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh, hi ninja.

[ReaperCharlie]

And gandalf... if I was really THAT scummy, don't you think there'd be a wagon on me by now? When I replaced into the game there were a number of votes on me. Did you see me immediately try to get on everyone's good side and lessen the number of votes on myself? No. I started hunting for f*cking scum, cause that's what I do. And the wagon on me disappeared. Why? Because everyone loves a good chat about whether or not the guys who ARE trying to get on everyone's good side, are scum. And thus the bvoigt wagon sprang up.

Now, do you really think I'm scum? If I was scum, what motivation would I have for playing like this? Any? Absolutely not. Which is why everybody who has half a brain (I would say "everyone who has a brain", but remember, DGB and Katsuki are in this game... ZING! ;P) realizes that I am obviously town. Obviously. And besides, one lame vote on somebody who is obviously town just because you don't want to choose between either of the two major wagons is at this point kind of retarded. My chiding of Katsuki to vote me as her top suspect notwithstanding, heh. But she has clearly not read the bvoigt case, or in fact most of the thread, and if I had to place a bet right now, I'd lay heavy odds that she's bvoigt's scumbuddy.

So now you're just painting yourself into the Katsuki + OMGUS + RTFT crowd with that vote on me. Not that I'm worried about a vote on me at this point. It doesn't matter. The point is, you are clearly not paying any attention, and you need to rectify that situation because we have only two RL days left until the thread is closed.

Note: as of the above post by bvoigt, even HE thinks I'm town. So what are your reasons for thinking I'm scum again, gandalf?

Point being: If you believe I'm town in any way, shape, or form, then you must also believe that my motives for attacking bvoigt are pure. And if they are, and you're a townie, then you should be on the bvoigt wagon. If you're not (and it's this close to deadline), then you are dead wrong. Fix it.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I don't have time to wade throught the pointless ReaperCharlie spam right now so I'll give my top suspects.

It should come as no surprise for those of you who actually read the thread.

Zdenek
Xdaa
Reaper

Scum team found.

[ReaperCharlie]

I don't have time to wade throught the pointless ReaperCharlie spam right now so I'll give my top suspects.

It should come as no surprise for those of you who actually read the thread.

Zdenek
Xdaa
Reaper

Scum team found.

Excuse me while I go roflmao.

[gandalf5166]

@Reaper: That post seriously shook my semi-belief in you. In fact, I'd say I'm fairly certain you're scum now. Or did you miss the part where I was only on page 5?

[vollkan]

About 2) - I guess not, but I should've. About 1) - Well, it's just the way that he seemed as if he didn't know what to say. I felt like a town post would have commented more. Let me think about this for a second.

...

I can't come up with a good way to explain it. I'm going to do the noble thing and retract that tell from my case, because I could easily be wrong here. Even if it's there, it's so weak as to just be a red herring.

Righto. Retraction makes the lack of explanation from your end less serious, so

Xd+5

But the Zdenek wagon, even though it's pure vollkan-tunneling, and stretches over weeks, makes complete sense.

You think I've been tunneling?

And why is the fact that it stretches over weeks a bad thing?

RC is scum.
And I have a feeling zdenik is his buddy.

Then why the hell are you voting Zd?

Kat+10

So you admit bvoigt is scummy for doing X, but now all you're trying to get me to cop to doing X as well? Honestly, is this in hopes that bvoigt won't look as scummy for doing X, because I did it too; or is it just so you can discredit my numerous argument against bvoigt under the guize of "hay, reaper did it too, you guyz. that means everything he said about bvoigt is a lie".

Do you agree or disagree that you did X? If you agree, do you think X is a scumtell?

Also, I would like everyone's top 3 suspects in their next post please.

Player	Score
bvoigt	84
katsuki	60
MagnaofIllusion	67
ReaperCharlie	75
Zdenek	96
DrippingGoofball	50
danakillsu	50
Xdaamno	55
ChannelDelibird	50
Empking	50
Gandalf	50

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[Empking]

Reaper Charlie: I'm of the view that there are two possibilities about the Zdenek wagon. Either Zdenek is scum or scum are already on the Zdenek wagon. Its clearly not the latter so it must be the former.

[danakillsu]

bvoigt is clearly not scum? 5 people disagree.