Open 263 - The Wild Life [Game Over]

[andrew94]

nonono chkflip is also town

vote smashbro

ffs

[andrew94]

its very easy.
we have 5 more lynch chance.

why not use 1 to prove my right/ wrong?

[jasonT1981]

provide a case then

[andrew94]

i ask everyone: will you leave smashbro in the final3?

if the answer is no, then vote him

[jasonT1981]

I will vote/not vote SB through a case.. nothing else. If he happens to be in the final 3.. make a case. if not.. make a case for him not to be.

Answer me this right now.. WHY should i vote him... if the answer is anything but a case... then I and others won't listen to you.

[Lateralus22]

ANDREW: SMASH IS SCUM VOTE HIM GUYS!
JASON: HEY MAKE CASE
CHK: WATCH ME HAMMER SOMEONE I THINK IS TOWN LOL
IAU: "MAKES A CASE ON PROBABLE TOWN" LEAVES FOR TWO WEEKS
LAT: WTF IS GOING ON.

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Goddamnit, andrew DO A PBPA PLEASE and point out what is scummy.

jason, PLEASE TALK TO ME ABOUT CHK

SMASH DO SOMETHING FOR ONCE THIS GAME, WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU?

CHK: SAY SOMETHING!

goddamnit.

[Lateralus22]

Fuck this game is frustrating.

Let's just quick lynch chk/smash/jason and be done with it >.>

[jasonT1981]

CHK deff needs to post more content.. did a quick ISO and majority.. not all but most posts are 1/2 liners.

[Lateralus22]

why do you insist on making me doubt you're town? >.>

god maybe IAU was right >.>

[jasonT1981]

I don't really have the time to do a full post atm, sorry. Geting everything ready for Christmas and doing food shopping soon.

[Lateralus22]

Wait, you don't even want to know why I'm doubting you're town?

[Lateralus22]

Fuck, there's no way IAU or Andrew are scum.

Can I have the top two lynch targets of everyone please?

Mine,

1. chk
2. jason/smash

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

sorry Lat. I'm on vacation, so i haven't been on my computer as much. As for my top two, I would say chkflip, and then

@people_concerned_about_the_Erinyes_case:
- Thought I'd update. There is no case on Erinyes. iamausername "has a feeling", it's SV's RVS-looking vote, and it's andrew saying "BELIEVE ME GUIEZ". All of which are assenine.

...

- You guys realize you have Erinyes at

L-2

with absolutely no case on him, right? Simply lynching andrew afterward won't help us any either... what if they're

both

town? What then?

He is against the Scott/Erinyes case (as were other people) but seemed to be pushing hard to get votes off of the slot. In retrospect, seems to be one buddy tryign to protect another.



However, worst is that he never mentions park until this post, even though many people had commented how scummy park was.

- DAMNIT! I was looking for that, too.

UNVOTE

VOTE: parknourie

He only makes this ^^^ post after scott does, and votes for park also.

after two people vote park, chkflip jumps on again,(this time on Day 2) with this post:

UNVOTE:
VOTE: PARKSCUMMY

Are you serious, Park? You flip-flopped from "I TRUST YOU~~" to "HOW DO WE TRUST THIS GUY". No. Just... just no.

but when at all possible, he seems to want to keep his vote off of park, and reverts to another suspect.

vote: chkflip

as for my second, how are we so sure andrew is town? Looking over his ISO, he first puts forth his "breaking strategy" to win, and defends it well as to why it would help mafia win too, even saying:

so they can win if we lynch a werewolf and they derp derp lynch townies

aside from that strategy, the only thing he has contributed are his gut reads, which he never backs up with any sort of case. interestingly he questions why park is mafia, and even though says it multiple times, he never votes park, the mafia member who is more likely to be lynched, but sticks with ScottBro, who after getting pushed to L-2 once, was assumed town.

how do you know park is mafia?

and i said scott is mafia, come on guys TRUST ME.

so yeah, I'd think andrew is next, for lack of contribution, and even though his "gut reads" turned out to be correct, it's easy if he already knows the information (i.e. is mafia). He said park was scummy, yet doesn't join the wagon, but sticks with scott. Refuses to put together cases. Doesn't seem very town like to me. Why are the reasons people think he is town again?

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

v/la 24th through the 27th.

Christmas obviously, then holiday parties over the next two days. might have time for a quick post the 27th, but probably not.

[Lateralus22]

smash, andrew is not scum. I get that people think vi players look scummy but he's way too transparent for this to be bussing. There is no opportunism in his posts, he really believes in what he's saying.

vote: chkflip

tell me what you think about the jason case, about every single point please.

[Lateralus22]

Actually,

unvote

for now,

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

1 - He claims that everyone pushing for an andrew lynch on D1 is scum, but then when a wagon appears on mafia scum Erinyes/Scott, who was a member of the aforementioned group pushing for an andrew lynch, jason says that he sees no reason to lynch Erinyes/Scott.
2 - He lets chkflip take the lead on opposing the 'baseless' wagon on Erinyes/Scott, rather than opposing it himself and risk creating a link between Erinyes and himself.
3 - He waits until a hammer has been dropped on Shotty, THEN posts an extensive case against parknourie
4 - He then proceeds to vote andrew at the start of D2 for doing the same dumb shit he's been doing all game
5 - He reminds us that he is totally not happy with the way park is playing, then votes SV for being obv werewolf
6 - He finally votes park, promising to stop bussing him if he tries posting something useful, but then park gets hammered before jason has a chance to unvote

(numbers added for clarity)

1 & 2 -

took a quick look at Erinyes in ISO... something strikes me as weird. I get Andrews plan might not work... but at least he is putting options forward. This truely makes me believe Andrew is town. I don't like also how you seem to question him questioning the setup and how scum/town/wolves can win.. that is pro town trying to find out things.

not really seeing the points in 1 & 2 at all. The quote is what most strikes me, with Jason saying he's not sure about Erinyes. Yes, he doesn't take charge on a crusade against Erinyes, but that seems to be because he wasn't sure himself, rather than trying to not let connections be made. I'm not seeing it as particularly scummy.
3 - I don't see this as particularly scummy, just a player moving on to another read after one has been lynched.
4 - The vote on andrew is interesting. Jason didn't seem to think andrew was scum at all, but votes him. I'm thinking it was just pressure though.
5 - as for voting SV over park, i see how it fits in with the argument IAU is making, but I would definitely say voting for werewolves is more important, so there are no nightkills. Pretty much everyone agreed on this point, so it's not necessarily scummy.
6 - Jason does keep asking park to come back and comment, so again, I could see where IAU is coming from, but I don't think it's scummy. It's just the same as anyone else asking park for a read, or anyone asking andrew for reasons behind his gut. Nulltell.

[Lateralus22]

What did you think of chk's hammer? Of his suspicions of you?

[chkflip]

Reactionfish fail on the andrew vote.

UNVOTE:

Yes, I hammered a townie. I did. You saw that he'd given up, right? You saw, just before that, that I IMPLORED HIM (THAT MEANS ASKED REAL NICE) to continue the game, but there was nothing there. Dead weight doesn't help us win this game.

VOTE: jason

His reasons are absolutely outrageous.

Also, I haven't been gone for very long. I had to go Christmas shopping. And now I'm wrapping, so my big extended post answering everyone is going to be on hold for now. What I will say, however, is that jason has enormous testicles. Call ME out for half-posting? Bitch, what have you done ALL GAME?

Pot. Kettle. Black.

[Lateralus22]

>.> reactionfishing, seriously? What happened to your reads on IAU and smash, your top two?

[Lateralus22]

- The DParker case is looking really good,

So basically. You say my case is good, which encourages the attack on DP and throw dirt on me at the same time. Yet, You believe DP is town, wtf? Why would you be saying a case on someone you think is town is good?

Vote: chkflip

Your vote for jason is weak.

[kunkstar7]

:: VoteCount 5x1 ::

andrew94 (0) -

smashbro_of_the_SSS (1) -

andrew94

Lateralus22 (0) -
jasonT1981 (1) -

chkflip

chkflip (2) -

smashbro_of_the_sss, Lateralus22

iamausername (0) -

Not Voting (2) -

jasonT1981, iamausername

With 6 Alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline for Day Four is January 5, 9:00pm EST.

Note that due to the holiday season a couple players will be V/LA during the coming week.

[andrew94]

i already say why smashbro is sus. look at his iso and hes suspisions list.

he states scottbro is townie, very townie etc
and park as 'confirmed scum/mafia'

interesting enough, he didnt vote parknourie.


FFS JUST LYNCH HIM.

[chkflip]

Look at my powerful ass, having a vote on andrew AND jason. xD

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Smash

I support andrew in this lynch. Amongst other reasons I have little to no time to indulge in. Also, a response to questions of me as time permits as well.

[Lateralus22]

Andrew, will

anything

convince you that smash is town?