Mini 1090: Of Rogues and Curses ~ Game Over

[Vi]

I also learned before the Day began that someone will die at nocase's hands (so to speak)

during this Day

.

Clarification.

Although really, if I knew nocase was in charge of the VP Baltar hit you'd THINK I'd be voting him right now.

[mothrax]

Oic... Reading is tech

unvote

[gandalf5166]

Just realized, @Uite: You realize that Exe flipped scum, right?

[nocase]

STOP HIDING, MARIYTA.

[nocase]

so basically mothrax doesn't pay close attention to the thread and never produces original content.

vi, hold me.

[gandalf5166]

Can you kill mothrax? That'd be awesome.

[nocase]

back off, maaan.

[nocase]

Although really, if I knew nocase was in charge of the VP Baltar hit you'd THINK I'd be voting him right now.

wait, what?

there's inhim's ability and then there's mine . . . ?

[Ythill]

• Vote Count
  
  3 ~ inHimshallibe (Vi, Mariyta, Zorblag)
  2 ~ Zorblag (nocase, inHimshallibe)
  1 ~ tanstalas (gandalf5166)
  1 ~ Vi (xvart)
  1 ~ gandalf5166 (Uite)
  
  Not voting: tanstalas, mothrax

• Notes
  
  
• With ten alive, it takes six to lynch.
  
• Deadline is Saturday, January 8th, 22:00 PST (GMT-8).
  
• Overall prods: Zorblag (1).

[Uite]

Just checking in to announce that I'll be away for Christmas until at least the 26th.

[Vi]

vi, hold me.

*holds you*

wait, what?

there's inhim's ability and then there's mine . . . ?

That has nothing to do with what you quoted. Once more, in English.

[Mariyta]

Okay, what it actually says is that at request, he will provide me with a flavor line for a power role of my choosing. Remind me how the hell it matters? And how it means I'm bad at reading comprehension?

@Mariyta - Does your PM say you can request a flavor line for a POWER role? (keyword is "FOR" a power role) Or does it just say "for a role"

I will say that gandalf's claim matches very close to what I know about mine and getting into whether one word is there or not is heading into modkill territory. I believe gandalf is what he says he is. I think it's time you turn your attention elsewhere.

@nocase: I wasn't hiding. Please read the sig.

I'm interested to see inHim's ability. I like the post by VP idea, and Vi's role sounds too convoluted for scum to make up on their own. So those who are most likely scum are xvart (no surprise there) and mothrax. Uite gets a meh read from me, as well.

UNVOTE: inHim
VOTE: xvart

[xvart]

@mod

- I hope the above isn't going against the quoting mod PM's as it was already mentioned before by Gandalf

Not the whole PM, just a part of it

I really don't like tans line of questioning here (and this post where he blames the quoting stuff on gandalf even though he was the one that started the line of inquiry. Furthermore, there are essentially two basic types of roles in a mafia game: VT and PRs. I think it is a fair assumption to think that if you could request role flavor you would more than likely do it for a power role and not a VT.

First off, nocase is almost confirmed town at this point. He's going to potentially look suspicious in a bit if we don't keep flavor in context but once the action with the flavor goes down I'll be willing to vouch for his clan without question. I'm not the least bit interested in going into details yet but I'm not vanilla and I used an ability that would lead to exactly this sort of behavior (other than voting me) and it only would have worked on a member of the Ungrika clan. If it weren't for the flavor I think we'll be getting in a bit I probably wouldn't do this pre-emptively but this reveal had to be made today so you get it now.

So let me get this straight. You gave nocase a kill, right? From what you've said it sounds like a role I had in Halo mafia a while back where I had one bullet but no gun, so I could pick a person to give a bullet to and they could use a one shot kill on someone (I didn't know at the time that it wouldn't work on scum). Why did you pick nocase?

all right, guys, i'm ready to go out on a limb.

We could always use your daykill to have two lynches today. Basically shoot the person we are going to lynch, then go on from there and lynch someone else.

Whatever. I still think you are scum. However - I do not think you are the best informational lynch for the day.

Woah, wait a second. You don't want to lynch scum but you want to do informational lynches? What could be better information wise than lynching scum?

Anyhow I find your words interesting.

When did I say anything about lynching town?

I said informational lynches. You do not think a scum lynch would be informational? I think Exe lynch was informational and he flipped scum.

But the subtext is you are subverting a lynch on someone you think is scum to get an informational lynch which precludes alignment. By backpedaling here you are covering up that you originally said that you want to lynch someone for information but who you are less likely to think is scum (and might be town) compared to the person you think is actually scum. If it was any other way you would have said I want to lynch my other likely scum suspect because that person will give us more information. And if that was the case, what more information could you get other than support for your gandalf theory. That makes no sense because he is your number one suspect.

However I'm still scratching my head over Exe's "role" what is a unique?

Maybe there are duplicate roles that are not unique, like two bellydancers or something like that.

Choose one of the following, and I'll make it happen:
VP Baltar makes a post related to the game.
VP Baltar controls my vote the rest of the day.

VP makes only one post related to the game? Or he can post multiple times?

I am the

Fortune Teller

(Fortune for a quarter? I love quarters!). Shortly before each Day I receive awesome mod info about who's going to die. During D1 I knew well in advance that VP Baltar was going to die that Night, and didn't bother suspecting him. It shouldn't surprise anyone to hear that I'm slated to die Tonight, given that I was making no secret of being a power role. I also learned before the Day began that someone will die at nocase's hands (so to speak). There's one last bit that I'll keep to myself for now.

Interesting. If everything you said is true then you obviously have a pro-town role. I don't see the scum advantage to lying about dying tonight but I guess it goes without saying that if you don't die tonight you die tomorrow.

UNVOTE:

Not voting: xvart, Zorblag, tanstalas, mothrax

Mod - I was voting Vi during this votecount.

~Fixed.

UNVOTE: tanstalas

[xvart]

Whoops.

VOTE: tanstalas

[nocase]

vi, my day kill is vp baltar's?

[Vi]

vi, my day kill is vp baltar's?

No. mothrax voted you based on misreading my post as saying that I knew you killed VP Baltar last Night. This is not true.

Something's wrong here, and it involves an

Unvote: inHimshallibe
Vote: xvart

(L-4)

[nocase]

oh.

unvote. vote: xvart.

(L-3)

[tanstalas]

Whatever. I still think you are scum. However - I do not think you are the best informational lynch for the day.

Woah, wait a second. You don't want to lynch scum but you want to do informational lynches? What could be better information wise than lynching scum?

Really? You quote this and say I "don't" want to lynch scum and then in the very next line you quote where I said I didn't say anything about lynching town? Why would you even do this? Listen Xvart. By information lynch I meant that if we lynch Gandalf AND he is scum it will tell me nothing about who his scum buddies/buddy are/is. It would confirm Uite as town IMO (Though he is already there basically) and probably Mothrax (as long as he didn't hop off the wagon when Gandalf got to L-1 or something). There are other people in the game who look scummy who I think would make better informational flips as they have interacted/been interacted with more people and there would be more to go off.

Plus even I know I am focusing on Gandalf too much and am probably missing the forest for the trees.

Anyhow I find your words interesting.

When did I say anything about lynching town?

I said informational lynches. You do not think a scum lynch would be informational? I think Exe lynch was informational and he flipped scum.

But the subtext is you are subverting a lynch on someone you think is scum to get an informational lynch which precludes alignment

.

I never said alignment would not come into my choice for picking another person to lynch. Seriously? Point out where I said I'm going to vote to lynch someone that is the best informational lynch without looking at if they may be scum or town.

By backpedaling here you are covering up that you originally said that you want to lynch someone for information but who you are less likely to think is scum (and might be town) compared to the person you think is actually scum.

Yes, I am, I agree with you here. I explained this already, the Gandalf wagon would most likely not get above three people - why would I continue to ramble on about Gandalf when I would never get the needed support for the lynch? Do you not think my time would be better spent looking at who else may be scum?

If it was any other way

you would have said I want to lynch my other likely scum suspect

because that person will give us more information.

I did not have another "suspect" at the time, well, I did, but it was more of a gut feeling, hence why I said I need to re-read the thread

And if that was the case, what more information could you get other than support for your gandalf theory. That makes no sense because he is your number one suspect.

If we end up lynching someone else and he flips scum and we see some ties back to Gandalf then great, if not, so be it. I was already wrong on VPB, I could very well be wrong on Gandalf as well, quite a few people think he is town, there are probably only 2 scum left, which means if Gandalf is one of them than at least 2 people that are confirmed town just by the numbers think Gandalf is town.

[gandalf5166]

I'm really not liking tans' recent posts. For one, the content is horrible. If there are only two scum left and I'm one of them, what would be the point in lynching the other scum if we're just going to lynch me once he's dead anyways? But two, they just seem cold. Stale. Like he spent way too long editing it until any emotion was gone from his post.

[crypto]

I Use Knife to Backstab: Mariyta.

[gandalf5166]

Noooooooooooo.................... She'll flip town.

[tanstalas]

I'm really not liking tans' recent posts. For one, the content is horrible. If there are only two scum left and I'm one of them, what would be the point in lynching the other scum if we're just going to lynch me once he's dead anyways? But two, they just seem cold. Stale. Like he spent way too long editing it until any emotion was gone from his post.

Just wondering, do you even read my posts?

[tanstalas]

EBWOP - And I doubt the knife kill will count since you know, he posted from the wrong account

[gandalf5166]

I'm really not liking tans' recent posts. For one, the content is horrible. If there are only two scum left and I'm one of them, what would be the point in lynching the other scum if we're just going to lynch me once he's dead anyways? But two, they just seem cold. Stale. Like he spent way too long editing it until any emotion was gone from his post.

Just wondering, do you even read my posts?

I did. And basically what you said was "Hey, we'll lynch my buddy, and then I'll point out some random connection between him and Gandalf and then we can wagonwagonwagon."

[tanstalas]

I'm really not liking tans' recent posts. For one, the content is horrible. If there are only two scum left and I'm one of them, what would be the point in lynching the other scum if we're just going to lynch me once he's dead anyways? But two, they just seem cold. Stale. Like he spent way too long editing it until any emotion was gone from his post.

Just wondering, do you even read my posts?

I did. And basically what you said was "Hey, we'll lynch my buddy, and then I'll point out some random connection between him and Gandalf and then we can wagonwagonwagon."

You really need to stop skimming.