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Yo, so I've read the thread, still trying to get everything through in my head. Werewolf is probably one of Park/shattered. Andrew is town, chkflip/or IAU is scum.
Will try to get something of substance. Quick note though, does anyone have a list of Jungle republic games? (I've only found about 2-3 in this section)-
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Will refer back this later, put here for easy reference later. At the top of my head I'd say the werewolf buddy bussed and there's probably two scum on the wagon and one off.
Parknourie
Park's obv wolf. Read his Iso, it's all practically active lurking, nothing of substance. Doesn't give forth much effort at all to hunt to for scum yet he spends his time chastising and throwing dirt on others (these players weren't even ones he expressed interest in lynching). Other notable things include contradictions (Original/Contradiction).
Notice his wagoning positioning, early on he votes shotty yet dancing around different wagons giving little input about shotty. The thing he cites a poor reason for switching that isn't even truly explains in an attempt to divert attention from the shotty wagon (Around VC 1.6). He didn't even respond to shotty reply to his accusation showing a lack of care towards his suspects. Didn't even say whether he thought shotty was scum or not after his switch.
Shatter Viewpoint
Poor reasoning for his accusation on jason. Love the selective accusation saying jason's early vote was distancing because that's exactly what Parknourie did. His content level is similar to Parnourie's.
Will read up on other's later, don't feel like doing it now.
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Hm? I'm basing my data off of this citing there's usually 2 scum on a day 1 lynch (To Scum there isn't too much underlining difference between wolf/town since they'll want both lynched). Atm the current very small set of data I collected still points to that same result.Scott wrote:There really is no basis for this. I agree with your end result of park being scum but I think using this in an attempt to scumhunt is flawed. I think the only thing that is most likely true is that all 3 mafia weren't on that wagon. But even that could be wrong.-
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andrew and jason are both obv town
IAU is probably town due to early case on on Scott/legit scum hunting. His play feels similar to our last, he isn't putting a facade to fool anyone he just is.
Smash is just gut so eh.
Gotta think through the last 3, but Shattered is already obv scum so that leaves the other two. Atm DP actually looks kinda better for scum but eh gut. I'll try and get something up today or tommorow.-
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AHAHAHAHAHA David, look in your Iso. When you were attacking Scott (for like three posts) you supplied NO actual reasoning at all and the moment his wagon weakened, you stayed off from him.DP wrote:i'm not sure how all those people have been listed as obv town, i was expecting people to call me obv town when day 1 both myself and guthrie pushed hard for scott's lynch.
What's more is the moment you took off your vote you practically ignored him only voicing soft suspicions. Your vote for SV Vote actually derailed the Scott wagon greatly, what's more is this is very flimsy reasoning compared to how you're describing your "strong" push on Scott. What's more is you've even used your own bias against Andrew as reasoning for not voting Scott at times, this makes no sense if you consider yourself to be putting a "strong" push on Scott.
Didn't you just say last phase you thought I was the wolf? Your logic is inconsistent and the conclusion you made doesn't match your beliefs.DP wrote:Not to mention i pushed hard for shotty's lynch as well. Bussing your werewolf on day 1 when there is a seer in the game to out werewolves seems like a terrible plan.
There's a huge difference in this. His hunting goes againstDP wrote:It's quotes like this that don't make sense on town reads. So he scum hunted, there are 2 different anti-town factions, they are likely to scum hunt each other. He could still easily be a werewolf who was scum hunting, or be the last mafia who was lookin for werewolves.bothfactions and I seriously doubt this was bus. I don't sense anything fake from his hunting. Is there anything I'm missing here?-
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DP wrote:I'm expecting a scum flip, i think jason or Later is a werewolf.DP wrote:Right now,we should be looking at who tried to derailthe shotty wagon ordidn't want a shotty lynchbecause having your werewolf buddy lynched day 1 with a seer in the game is never a good ideaso I doubt he was bussed.
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...Please dear God tell me I don't have to spell this out for you."chkflip"]]Heyo Later, how's that a slip?
DP: werewolf = Lat or Jason
Dp: Werefolf didn't bus their buddy!!!
Information: Lat and Jason were both on the shotty lynch VERY early on and did nothing to stop it.
This is a case of saying one thing but really meaning another. His conclusion did not match up with what he believes.
What? Who said anything about past games? I don't bring that kind of stuff any game.Also, just because I played a fair game with you, as scum, doesn't mean I'm going to be scum in every game thereafter. Care to explain where I seem scummy to you, chief? So far, you've said nothing beyond "suspecting". Do give reason, please.-
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^Notice how DP says "HE GUYS LETS SCUM HUNT" yet he STILLdoesn'tname any name or voice any actual specific suspicions besides the obvious SV?
Sigh. Let's put it this way. Why do did you think jason/lat could be the werewolf when you didn't think the werewolf bussed? If you still have any questions please point to the the exact text but seriously, I explained this pretty clearly.DP wrote:I still don't understand what my slip was in what you quoted to be honest. I don't get what you are pointing out.
Name your town reads and your suspicions, there is no reason not to Mr. Let's have discussion.
Seriously? How the hell did you turn from being such a strong attacker in the earlier phases to "Oh um, I dunno, hey, this fence im sitting on is pretty neat."DP wrote:Who do I think is scum? I Haven't actually got a strong opinion on that.-
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/sigh....
Using time for the sake of is stupid. What do you want to talk about? Bring those specific points here and now. Why is this mistake, how is this guy possibly town? Long drawn out days encourage lurking and apathy, if you want to draw out the day bring content with you.
Dunno why you're citing Iam when he encouraged us to end the day.-
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jasonT1981 wrote:
heh heh,... Day 1 sucked and was depressing.. well maybe for youShattered Viewpoint wrote:chkflip wrote:
- How do you think you played D1?2 -- I never look back. Too depressing.
@DavidP: I was having trouble choosing between the three scummiest of the scummy.Also, Day One sucks. Day Two is here now, and will be better.
we hit warewolf so it was good for us... why would D1 have been bad and depressing forkunkstar7 wrote:drmyshottyizsik,Werewolf, Lynched Day 1.youhmmmm theories anyone??
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DP Iso #33 wrote:Right now, we should be looking at who tried to derail the shotty wagon or didn't want a shotty lynch because having your werewolf buddy lynched day 1 with a seer in the game is never a good idea soI doubt he was bussed.DP Iso #37 wrote:I'm VERY sure SV is the remaining werewolf
Yeah. Which one is it? Seriously.drmyshottyizsik (7) -silverbullet999, jasonT1981, OpposedForce, chkflip,Shattered Viewpoint, parknourie, DavidParker [Lynched.]-
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Werewolf buddy doesn't like his buddy being lynched Day 1. Town is happy to see werewolf dead, town would be happy with how Day 1 went. You're also his buddy for this vote here were you tried to lynch park instead of shotty when the votes were very close, you only changed later when shotty was ahead by one, but you said it was simply to achieve the lynch near deadline. There's also some more stuff why you're not town.Shattered Viewpoint wrote:Please connect for me how not liking Day One makes me a werewolf
Guys, jason is town. Deal with it. I might go into it more later but jason iswaaaaytoo shy to bus.-
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Sigh... chk that was the reason why we didn't lynch him yesterday. You're also ignoring EVERY other point I said against him. Why are you ignoring every other point?
Why is this scummy of me when IAU and jason are attacking him for the same exact thing, since the last phase?
Oh btw, He still says he didn't like Day 1. Can you tell me why a townie wouldn't like how Day 1 resulted? Can you? Because it turned out pretty damn fine.
chk wrote:What makes you so damn sure jason is town again?
There is a reason why I put a link there.Lat wrote:Guys, jason is town. Deal with it. I might go into it more later but jason is waaaay too shy to bus.-
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Sigh... Wording doesn't matter I just want to know why. That's the simpliest way to word it. Maybe this'll please you more.
Did you think that was scummy of jason/IAU? Why or why not?
Did you think it was scummy of me, why or why not?
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BOW CHICA WOW WOW, Ah yeaaah. Alright, here's the abridged version. IAU/Jason/andrew are all OBV OBV Town.
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Lat/chk/David/smash
David is OBV scum, already explained most, today or tommorow I will explain the rest (For realz this time). chk is probably town, I know I'm town, and I have smash as a town read.
Mod: Town has 5 chances to lynch correct? There is no more night correct?-
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IAU, just read my case on David & his reactions, compare how he thinks andrew is stupid versus his treatement of me when I called him scum. Was gonna explain later but you'll probably get it (may explain if I need to though),
Preview Edit: Uh chk, Does it matter who was nk'ed because Shattered was the man with the plan who killed mista silver & his scotty companion.-
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tl;dr, David says he's town because he pushed for the Scott wagon hard. He doesn't even fucken remember who started the wagon either. He gave no reasoning why and this was his excuse to jump off.Lat wrote:AHAHAHAHAHA David, look in your Iso. When you were attacking Scott (for like three posts) you supplied NO actual reasoning at all and the moment his wagon weakened, you stayed off from him.
What's more is the moment you took off your vote you practically ignored him only voicing soft suspicions. Your vote for SV Vote actually derailed the Scott wagon greatly, what's more is this is very flimsy reasoning compared to how you're describing your "strong" push on Scott. What's more is you've even used your own bias against Andrew as reasoning for not voting Scott at times, this makes no sense if you consider yourself to be putting a "strong" push on Scott.
This is whatDavid Iso #3 wrote:@SV: Ugh, no?
Vote: Shattered viewpointdestroyed the Scott wagon on Day 1. Doesn't take a genius to figure out this is aweak reasonwhen DP wasvery confidentin Scott being scum. Why would DP jump off his vote when he was so confident? Note that he also voted Park, But unvoted saying,
Sounds to me like he considered bussing but decided against it.DavidParker wrote:Vote: SHOTTY
best lynch for today with our limited time.
Why does a townie need to remind themselves of who they vote and have suspicions of?DP wrote:I just iso'd myself (to remind myself of my earlier views and vote movement), and see no reason as to how I'm either werewolf or scum.
Then we have these two gems, claims it's a typo...
Lateralus22 wrote:DP wrote:I'm expecting a scum flip, i think jason or Later is a werewolf.DP wrote:Right now,we should be looking at who tried to derailthe shotty wagon ordidn't want a shotty lynchbecause having your werewolf buddy lynched day 1 with a seer in the game is never a good ideaso I doubt he was bussed.
You've slippedVC wrote:drmyshottyizsik (7) -silverbullet999,jasonT1981, OpposedForce,chkflip, Shattered Viewpoint, parknourie, DavidParker [Lynched.]Lateralus22 wrote:DP Iso #33 wrote:Right now, we should be looking at who tried to derail the shotty wagon or didn't want a shotty lynch because having your werewolf buddy lynched day 1 with a seer in the game is never a good idea soI doubt he was bussed.DP Iso #37 wrote:I'm VERY sure SV is the remaining werewolf
Yeah. Which one is it? Seriously.drmyshottyizsik (7) -silverbullet999, jasonT1981, OpposedForce, chkflip,Shattered Viewpoint, parknourie, DavidParker [Lynched.]Note:He also constantly tried to demolish andrew credibility for no reason. He ignored why when I asked him.
1. Notice how he says it in a way where he acknowledges it as real.DavidParker wrote:Wow, i now understand my slip.[1]
it's actually a typo.
I think jason or Later is scum, not werewolf.[2]
I've made it clear that I think SV is shotty's werewolf buddy. Obviously Jason or Later can't be the third werewolf as there only is two. This 3 faction game has gotten me confused between wolves and scum. That post was meant to read I thought one of you two is probably scum (or both at the time), I've consistently believed SV to be shotty's werewolf buddy.
2. There is a HUGE difference between Mafia and werewolf. Did David ever have any trouble separating the two in game? Did anyone notice where he makes this mistake when he's saying it's such a huge problem?
Look at the original post...
Like I said, big difference. Wouldn't it be more natural to say I think these guys are your buddy or say they're probably your partner? I really doubt this is a typo. If he meant it as the default why just say "scum"? werewolf isDavidParker wrote:Vote: parknourie
Cya mate.
I'm expecting a scum flip, i think jason or Later is a werewolf.veryspecific as opposed to the generic mafia.
Also there is a HUGE difference in his tone on Day 1 compared to Day 3. Remember how he attacks andrew for being stupid and he claims that it unimaginable for anyone to suspect him except andrew? Where is his fiery attitude from the previous days? He's scum who's reserved and backed into the corner, his tone is scripted. If he really thought it was stupid he would let me have it as town instead of censoring the same type of hate he showed towards andrew.
^Note how he voted for SV WITHOUT looking heavily into who is scum. Scum-DP wants someone else to make a case for him, why else did he not present his own case when he voiced concern for how the day went?DP wrote:The reason I wasn't voting SV is because it's clear to me we do need some discussion today since obviously there is a tear between voting me or SV (or one and then the other), i feel regardless of SV's flip i'll be lynched tomorrow, soi'd rather get some discussion going todayand avoid that via scum-hunting the actual scum.DP wrote:Who do I think is scum? I Haven't actually got a strong opinion on that. I'm VERY sure SV is the remaining werewolf but as for scum, I admit to not actively looking into who is a likely candidate at the time being.There's a few people I have strong town reads on, so the remaining would all be people I would look at.
How the hell did multiple STRONG town reads become 1?As for now, my only strong town read is CHK.
^Notice how two of these people are one's attacking him and the other is just a random name with suspicion put on him for NO REASON. When I ask DP for a case he doesn't give anything, in the very least I WANT REASONS. Or are these random names?So, jason/later/smash are the ones I'll be looking at mostly.
DP: Give me TWO suspects and REASONS why they are scum. I am tired of your stalling. Also tell me why you thought Scott was the mafia. Don't give me any "oh but he flipped mafia" nonsense, I want reasons as to why you were suspicious of him when you didn't even know who created the case.
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@smash, Please put DP at L-1,no one here is going to try and quick hammer, I doubt andrew even would considering how freaken long it took to lynch SV
@Andrew, we are not lynching smash, I doubt both you and chk are the mafia but we are still lynching David first. Please put your vote somewhere where it'll matter. How do you feel about DP versus jason?-
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