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Post Post #489 (isolation #0) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:52 pm

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Yo, so I've read the thread, still trying to get everything through in my head. Werewolf is probably one of Park/shattered. Andrew is town, chkflip/or IAU is scum.

Will try to get something of substance. Quick note though, does anyone have a list of Jungle republic games? (I've only found about 2-3 in this section)
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Post Post #490 (isolation #1) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:38 pm

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Final Day 1 Vote Count

drmyshottyizsik
(7) -
silverbullet999
, jasonT1981, OpposedForce, chkflip, Shattered Viewpoint, parknourie, DavidParker [Lynched.]
andrew94 (1) -
drmyshottyizsik

parknourie (2) - Scott Brosius, iamusername
Scott Brosius (1) - andrew94
Shattered Viewpoint (1) - smashbro_of_the_sss


Will refer back this later, put here for easy reference later. At the top of my head I'd say the werewolf buddy bussed and there's probably two scum on the wagon and one off.


Parknourie


Park's obv wolf. Read his Iso, it's all practically active lurking, nothing of substance. Doesn't give forth much effort at all to hunt to for scum yet he spends his time chastising and throwing dirt on others (these players weren't even ones he expressed interest in lynching). Other notable things include contradictions (Original/Contradiction).

Notice his wagoning positioning, early on he votes shotty yet dancing around different wagons giving little input about shotty. The thing he cites a poor reason for switching that isn't even truly explains in an attempt to divert attention from the shotty wagon (Around VC 1.6). He didn't even respond to shotty reply to his accusation showing a lack of care towards his suspects. Didn't even say whether he thought shotty was scum or not after his switch.

Shatter Viewpoint


Poor reasoning for his accusation on jason. Love the selective accusation saying jason's early vote was distancing because that's exactly what Parknourie did. His content level is similar to Parnourie's.

Will read up on other's later, don't feel like doing it now.

Vote: Parknourie
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Post Post #491 (isolation #2) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:47 pm

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Hiya Smash, since you're reading the thread could you please give me a concise version of your current thoughts? (No spoilers please)
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Post Post #493 (isolation #3) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:18 pm

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Why do you think scott is the mafia (Can you list the reasons?)? Note, it'd be better off get the werewolf today due to their nk ability would it not?
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Post Post #497 (isolation #4) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:47 pm

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Scott wrote:There really is no basis for this. I agree with your end result of park being scum but I think using this in an attempt to scumhunt is flawed. I think the only thing that is most likely true is that all 3 mafia weren't on that wagon. But even that could be wrong.
Hm? I'm basing my data off of this citing there's usually 2 scum on a day 1 lynch (To Scum there isn't too much underlining difference between wolf/town since they'll want both lynched). Atm the current very small set of data I collected still points to that same result.
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Post Post #498 (isolation #5) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:02 pm

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ebwop: Basing my
theory
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Post Post #500 (isolation #6) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:35 pm

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More likely Park, if not then it's SV. Hey andrew, could you list
why
scott's scum for me? It'll take you like 30 seconds.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #7) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:54 pm

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Scott wrote:I just hate when people get blinders on saying "Well there are x scum on this mislynch wagon" instead of actually scumhunting.
That isn't what I'm doing at all.

Side Note: L-1
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Post Post #512 (isolation #8) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:31 am

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Day 1 VC


drmyshottyizsik
(3) -
silverbullet999
,
parknourie
, andrew94
andrew94 (2) - jasonT1981,
drmyshottyizsik

silverbullet999
(1) - iamusername

Not Voting (6) - smashbro_of_the_SSS, Erinyes, Broggly, Shattered Viewpoint, Guthrie, chkflip

drmyshottyizsik
(3) -
silverbullet999
,
parknourie
, andrew94
andrew94 (3) - jasonT1981,
drmyshottyizsik
, Erinyes
silverbullet999
(1) - iamusername

Not Voting (5) - smashbro_of_the_SSS, Broggly, Shattered Viewpoint, Guthrie, chkflip

drmyshottyizsik
(2) -
silverbullet999
, andrew94
andrew94 (4) -
drmyshottyizsik
, Erinyes,
parknourie
, Guthrie
Erinyes
(2) - iamusername, Shattered Viewpoint

Not Voting (4) - smashbro_of_the_SSS, Broggly, chkflip, jasonT1981

drmyshottyizsik
(3) -
silverbullet999
, andrew94, jasonT1981
andrew94 (4) -
drmyshottyizsik
,
Erinyes
,
parknourie
, Guthrie
silverbullet999
(1) - chkflip
Erinyes
(2) - iamusername, Shattered Viewpoint

Not Voting (2) - smashbro_of_the_SSS, Broggly

drmyshottyizsik
(4) -
silverbullet999
, andrew94, jasonT1981, chkflip
andrew94 (2) -
drmyshottyizsik
,
Erinyes

Erinyes
(3) - iamusername, Shattered Viewpoint, Guthrie
chkflip (2) - smashbro_of_the_sss,
parknourie

Not Voting (1) - OpposedForce

drmyshottyizsik
(5) -
silverbullet999
, andrew94, jasonT1981, OpposedForce,
parknourie

andrew94 (2) -
drmyshottyizsik
,
Erinyes

Erinyes
(3) - iamusername, Shattered Viewpoint, Guthrie
chkflip (1) - smashbro_of_the_sss

Not Voting (1) - chkflip

drmyshottyizsik
(3) -
silverbullet999
, jasonT1981, OpposedForce
andrew94 (4) -
drmyshottyizsik
,
Scott Brosius
, smashbro_of_the_sss, chkflip
Scott Brosius
(5) - iamusername, Shattered Viewpoint, Guthrie, andrew94,
parknourie


Not Voting (0) -

drmyshottyizsik
(3) -
silverbullet999
, jasonT1981, OpposedForce
andrew94 (3) -
drmyshottyizsik
, smashbro_of_the_sss, chkflip
parknourie
(1) -
Scott Brosius

Scott Brosius
(5) - iamusername, Shattered Viewpoint, Guthrie, andrew94,
parknourie


Not Voting (0) -

drmyshottyizsik
(3) -
silverbullet999
, jasonT1981, OpposedForce
andrew94 (3) -
drmyshottyizsik
, smashbro_of_the_sss, chkflip
parknourie
(1) -
Scott Brosius

Scott Brosius
(5) - iamusername, Shattered Viewpoint, Guthrie, andrew94,
parknourie


Not Voting (0) -

drmyshottyizsik
(3) -
silverbullet999
, jasonT1981, OpposedForce
andrew94 (3) -
drmyshottyizsik
, smashbro_of_the_sss, chkflip
parknourie
(1) -
Scott Brosius

Scott Brosius
(5) - iamusername, Shattered Viewpoint, Guthrie, andrew94,
parknourie


Not Voting (0) -

drmyshottyizsik
(3) -
silverbullet999
, jasonT1981, OpposedForce
andrew94 (3) -
drmyshottyizsik
, smashbro_of_the_sss, Shattered Viewpoint
parknourie
(3) -
Scott Brosius
s, chkflip, DavidParker
Scott Brosius
(3) - iamusername, andrew94,
parknourie


Not Voting (0) -

drmyshottyizsik
(4) -
silverbullet999
, jasonT1981, OpposedForce, DavidParker
andrew94 (2) -
drmyshottyizsik
, smashbro_of_the_sss
parknourie
(3) -
Scott Brosius
, chkflip, Shattered Viewpoint
Scott Brosius
(3) - iamusername, andrew94,
parknourie


Not Voting (0) -

drmyshottyizsik
(5) -
silverbullet999
, jasonT1981, OpposedForce, DavidParker, chkflip
andrew94 (2) -
drmyshottyizsik
, smashbro_of_the_sss
parknourie
(2) -
Scott Brosius
, Shattered Viewpoint
Scott Brosius
(3) - iamusername, andrew94,
parknourie


Not Voting (0) -

drmyshottyizsik
(5) -
silverbullet999
, jasonT1981, OpposedForce, DavidParker, chkflip
andrew94 (2) -
drmyshottyizsik
, smashbro_of_the_sss
parknourie
(2) -
Scott Brosius
, Shattered Viewpoint
Scott Brosius
(3) - iamusername, andrew94,
parknourie


Not Voting (0) -

drmyshottyizsik
(4) -
silverbullet999
, jasonT1981, OpposedForce, chkflip
andrew94 (1) -
drmyshottyizsik

parknourie
(3) -
Scott Brosius
, Shattered Viewpoint, iamusername
Scott Brosius
(2) - andrew94,
parknourie

Shattered Viewpoint (2) - smashbro_of_the_sss, DavidParker

Not Voting (0) -

Final VC Day 1


drmyshottyizsik
(7) -
silverbullet999
,
jasonT1981, OpposedForce, chkflip, Shattered Viewpoint,
parknourie
, DavidParker [Lynched.]
andrew94 (1) -
drmyshottyizsik

parknourie
(2) -
Scott Brosius
, iamusername
Scott Brosius
(1) - andrew94
Shattered Viewpoint (1) - smashbro_of_the_sss

Not Voting (0) -


Both werewolf and scum are between {chkflip ; David Parker ; Shattered Viewpoint} Slight chance of error, still gotta to get a full read on everyone. Andrew what do you think of chkflip as the final scum? And of DP?
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Post Post #514 (isolation #9) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:43 am

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andrew and jason are both obv town
IAU is probably town due to early case on on Scott/legit scum hunting. His play feels similar to our last, he isn't putting a facade to fool anyone he just is.
Smash is just gut so eh.

Gotta think through the last 3, but Shattered is already obv scum so that leaves the other two. Atm DP actually looks kinda better for scum but eh gut. I'll try and get something up today or tommorow.
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Post Post #516 (isolation #10) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:01 pm

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Vote: Shattered Viewpoint


Hey can we NOT quick lynch him today though? I want to get my reads done, it'll take less than two days.
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Post Post #521 (isolation #11) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:53 pm

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DP wrote:i'm not sure how all those people have been listed as obv town, i was expecting people to call me obv town when day 1 both myself and guthrie pushed hard for scott's lynch.
AHAHAHAHAHA David, look in your Iso. When you were attacking Scott (for like three posts) you supplied NO actual reasoning at all and the moment his wagon weakened, you stayed off from him.

What's more is the moment you took off your vote you practically ignored him only voicing soft suspicions. Your vote for SV Vote actually derailed the Scott wagon greatly, what's more is this is very flimsy reasoning compared to how you're describing your "strong" push on Scott. What's more is you've even used your own bias against Andrew as reasoning for not voting Scott at times, this makes no sense if you consider yourself to be putting a "strong" push on Scott.
DP wrote:Not to mention i pushed hard for shotty's lynch as well. Bussing your werewolf on day 1 when there is a seer in the game to out werewolves seems like a terrible plan.
Didn't you just say last phase you thought I was the wolf? Your logic is inconsistent and the conclusion you made doesn't match your beliefs.
DP wrote:It's quotes like this that don't make sense on town reads. So he scum hunted, there are 2 different anti-town factions, they are likely to scum hunt each other. He could still easily be a werewolf who was scum hunting, or be the last mafia who was lookin for werewolves.
There's a huge difference in this. His hunting goes against
both
factions and I seriously doubt this was bus. I don't sense anything fake from his hunting. Is there anything I'm missing here?
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Post Post #522 (isolation #12) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:12 pm

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DP wrote:I'm expecting a scum flip, i think jason or Later is a werewolf.
DP wrote:Right now,
we should be looking at who tried to derail
the shotty wagon or
didn't want a shotty lynch
because having your werewolf buddy lynched day 1 with a seer in the game is never a good idea
so I doubt he was bussed.
VC wrote:drmyshottyizsik (7) -silverbullet999,
jasonT1981, OpposedForce,
chkflip, Shattered Viewpoint, parknourie, DavidParker [Lynched.]
You've slipped
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Post Post #528 (isolation #13) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:28 am

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"chkflip"]]Heyo Later, how's that a slip?
...Please dear God tell me I don't have to spell this out for you.

DP: werewolf = Lat or Jason
Dp: Werefolf didn't bus their buddy!!!

Information: Lat and Jason were both on the shotty lynch VERY early on and did nothing to stop it.

This is a case of saying one thing but really meaning another. His conclusion did not match up with what he believes.
Also, just because I played a fair game with you, as scum, doesn't mean I'm going to be scum in every game thereafter. Care to explain where I seem scummy to you, chief? So far, you've said nothing beyond "suspecting". Do give reason, please.
What? Who said anything about past games? I don't bring that kind of stuff any game.
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Post Post #529 (isolation #14) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:29 am

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andrew because he is actually on the far lower end of the IQ scale.
Why are you constantly trying to destroy Andrew's credibility? His reads have been been better than yours all game.
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Post Post #530 (isolation #15) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:30 am

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ebwop
dp wrote:andrew because he is actually on the far lower end of the IQ scale.
Why are you constantly trying to destroy Andrew's credibility? His reads have been been better than yours all game.
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Post Post #532 (isolation #16) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:00 am

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jason wrote:fish for roles maybe?
Yo you in the full swing of things yet? All of town is vanilla >.>
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Post Post #534 (isolation #17) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:03 am

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chk who is that aimed at?
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Post Post #536 (isolation #18) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:27 am

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though I didn't expect you to jump in and post a single sentence.
What's your point? I had no idea what you were talking about.
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Post Post #537 (isolation #19) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:28 am

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wait, chk do you think scum/werewolf are on the shotty or off? or both?
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Post Post #540 (isolation #20) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:36 am

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chk, park put Scott at 5 votes IIRC for incredibly stupid reasons some point in time. I don't doubt bussing as a possibility at all.
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Post Post #542 (isolation #21) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:59 am

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Doesn't matter, Park was an inevitable lynch, Scott put him at L-1 for christ sakes and it'd take a miracle for the other scum to stop him. Trying to demolish the park wagon day 2 would have been instant suicide.
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Post Post #545 (isolation #22) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:55 am

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smash, guthrie = DP

but DP still took his vote off for a flimsy reason and never returned to Scott.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #23) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:26 pm

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Bussing = Pushing your partner to the completion of the lynch. You did not do that. You hopped off with a weak excuse destroying the wagon on him for that day.

^Notice how he ignores the slip I pointed out and isn't looking for scum atm.
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Post Post #554 (isolation #24) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:32 pm

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^DP needs to vote in his next post Asap. SV is still more probable werewolf because of the not liking day 1 comment.
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Post Post #556 (isolation #25) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:42 pm

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So, you gonna vote SV or not?
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Post Post #559 (isolation #26) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:04 pm

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1 Quick Question

1. How did you forget about that? That's like, the major reason for lynching park yesterday.
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Post Post #564 (isolation #27) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:22 pm

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iamausername wrote: this also applies today HINT HINT
This. btw don't really feel like going back and making a wall-o-text for all my reads, I'm confident that SV and DP are scum.

Smash or andrew please hammer.
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Post Post #568 (isolation #28) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:45 am

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Mod: Can we Prod Shattered Viewpoint?
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Post Post #569 (isolation #29) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:51 am

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Just for the sake of can DP make a nice concise case on why 2 of the probable townies are scum?
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Post Post #570 (isolation #30) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:52 am

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ebwop: it should be
why he thinks
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Post Post #572 (isolation #31) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:47 am

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^Notice how DP says "HE GUYS LETS SCUM HUNT" yet he STILL
doesn't
name any name or voice any actual specific suspicions besides the obvious SV?
DP wrote:I still don't understand what my slip was in what you quoted to be honest. I don't get what you are pointing out.
Sigh. Let's put it this way. Why do did you think jason/lat could be the werewolf when you didn't think the werewolf bussed? If you still have any questions please point to the the exact text but seriously, I explained this pretty clearly.

Name your town reads and your suspicions, there is no reason not to Mr. Let's have discussion.
DP wrote:Who do I think is scum? I Haven't actually got a strong opinion on that.
Seriously? How the hell did you turn from being such a strong attacker in the earlier phases to "Oh um, I dunno, hey, this fence im sitting on is pretty neat."
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Post Post #575 (isolation #32) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:24 am

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Um what? Tell you what, explain to me the pro-town thought process behind what he's saying and why I'm wrong about him. What is wrong about tunneling, where are my concerns not legit?
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Post Post #577 (isolation #33) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:51 am

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...THATS ALL YOU GOT? WTF MAN.

Who is scum and why? And why the hell do you have NO REACTION to being put at L-1?

Can we please string this guy up? I'm tired of waiting.
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Post Post #579 (isolation #34) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:58 am

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/sigh....

Using time for the sake of is stupid. What do you want to talk about? Bring those specific points here and now. Why is this mistake, how is this guy possibly town? Long drawn out days encourage lurking and apathy, if you want to draw out the day bring content with you.

Dunno why you're citing Iam when he encouraged us to end the day.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #35) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:09 am

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>.> mhmk. But seriously, if we don't lynch this guy within three days without have a LOT of content come in as a substitute I will rage. hardcore.

Shattered get in here.
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Post Post #584 (isolation #36) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:28 am

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jasonT1981 wrote:
Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
chkflip wrote:

- How do you think you played D1?
2 -- I never look back. Too depressing.


@DavidP: I was having trouble choosing between the three scummiest of the scummy.
Also, Day One sucks. Day Two is here now, and will be better.
heh heh,... Day 1 sucked and was depressing.. well maybe for you
kunkstar7 wrote:
drmyshottyizsik,
Werewolf
, Lynched Day 1.
we hit warewolf so it was good for us... why would D1 have been bad and depressing for
you
hmmmm theories anyone??

unvote
vote:SV
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Post Post #586 (isolation #37) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:05 pm

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Didn't take it seriously yesterday but since I was wrong about park's specific team then yeah, I'd say it probably is.
Shattered Viewpoint wrote:mafia: andrew, parknourie,
ScottBro
I realize this is totally WIFOM and all but anyone thinking the same thing I am?
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Post Post #590 (isolation #38) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:21 pm

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DP Iso #33 wrote:Right now, we should be looking at who tried to derail the shotty wagon or didn't want a shotty lynch because having your werewolf buddy lynched day 1 with a seer in the game is never a good idea so
I doubt he was bussed.
DP Iso #37 wrote:I'm VERY sure SV is the remaining werewolf
drmyshottyizsik (7) -silverbullet999, jasonT1981, OpposedForce, chkflip,
Shattered Viewpoint
, parknourie, DavidParker [Lynched.]
Yeah. Which one is it? Seriously.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #39) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:48 pm

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Then why did you say thought jason was the werewolf the last phase?
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Post Post #605 (isolation #40) » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:03 am

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Shattered Viewpoint wrote:Please connect for me how not liking Day One makes me a werewolf
Werewolf buddy doesn't like his buddy being lynched Day 1. Town is happy to see werewolf dead, town would be happy with how Day 1 went. You're also his buddy for this vote here were you tried to lynch park instead of shotty when the votes were very close, you only changed later when shotty was ahead by one, but you said it was simply to achieve the lynch near deadline. There's also some more stuff why you're not town.



Guys, jason is town. Deal with it. I might go into it more later but jason is
waaaay
too shy to bus.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #41) » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:15 pm

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Sigh... chk that was the reason why we didn't lynch him yesterday. You're also ignoring EVERY other point I said against him. Why are you ignoring every other point?

Why is this scummy of me when IAU and jason are attacking him for the same exact thing, since the last phase?

Oh btw, He still says he didn't like Day 1. Can you tell me why a townie wouldn't like how Day 1 resulted? Can you? Because it turned out pretty damn fine.
chk wrote:What makes you so damn sure jason is town again?
Lat wrote:Guys, jason is town. Deal with it. I might go into it more later but jason is waaaay too shy to bus.
There is a reason why I put a link there.
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Post Post #609 (isolation #42) » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:22 pm

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Please. I don't want to argue with you.

Alright chk, we know he doesn't like Day 1. Do we know the
reason
why he doesn't?
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Post Post #611 (isolation #43) » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:26 pm

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Because the answer is the whole entire motivation is to
why[
someone does something. What's come up as the reason why he doesn't is becuase he didn't like his buddy being lynched.

Do you see where I'm coming from?
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Post Post #612 (isolation #44) » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:28 pm

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Oh hey you ignored my questions >.>
You're also ignoring EVERY other point I said against him. Why are you ignoring every other point?
Why is this scummy of me when IAU and jason are attacking him for the same exact thing, since the last phase?
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Post Post #614 (isolation #45) » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:57 pm

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That's not a loaded question at all. Can you explain to me how it is?

Why is one thing scummy for me specifically but not two other people?
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Post Post #617 (isolation #46) » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:00 pm

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Sigh... Wording doesn't matter I just want to know why. That's the simpliest way to word it. Maybe this'll please you more.

Did you think that was scummy of jason/IAU? Why or why not?
Did you think it was scummy of me, why or why not?

IF the answers are different then what's the difference between the two situations that make it so?
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Post Post #633 (isolation #47) » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:07 am

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Guys, let's start singing. Anyone wanna have a duet? I'll start.

I really can't stay - Baby it's cold outside

I've got to go away - Baby it's cold outside

Preview Edit: :D
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Post Post #638 (isolation #48) » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:25 am

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BOW CHICA WOW WOW, Ah yeaaah. Alright, here's the abridged version. IAU/Jason/andrew are all OBV OBV Town.

That leaves.

Lat/chk/David/smash

David is OBV scum, already explained most, today or tommorow I will explain the rest (For realz this time). chk is probably town, I know I'm town, and I have smash as a town read.

Mod: Town has 5 chances to lynch correct? There is no more night correct?
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Post Post #650 (isolation #49) » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:57 pm

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Andrew, DP > smash

Being wrong doesn't equal mafia.
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Post Post #657 (isolation #50) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:18 am

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Vote: DP


Would like smash/IAU to chime in. David how do you not remember IAU when he was the one who made the case on Enr/Scott and started the whole wagon?
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Post Post #658 (isolation #51) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:24 am

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Actually, what's your case against jason/smash/me?
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Post Post #660 (isolation #52) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:26 am

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I know, but still despite the # of posts what he has said has been pretty memorable. Why do you think he's scummy?
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Post Post #663 (isolation #53) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:33 am

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IAU, just read my case on David & his reactions, compare how he thinks andrew is stupid versus his treatement of me when I called him scum. Was gonna explain later but you'll probably get it (may explain if I need to though),

Preview Edit: Uh chk, Does it matter who was nk'ed because Shattered was the man with the plan who killed mista silver & his scotty companion.
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Post Post #669 (isolation #54) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:14 am

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IAU, jason doesn't bus even if his buddies are on death row.
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Post Post #670 (isolation #55) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:31 pm

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He waits until a hammer has been dropped on Shotty, THEN posts an extensive case against parknourie
Why is this scummy? Fuck, what'd the fucking point of doing this on do one? So he can get the werewolves to kill his buddy?
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Post Post #672 (isolation #56) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:19 pm

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Lat wrote:AHAHAHAHAHA David, look in your Iso. When you were attacking Scott (for like three posts) you supplied NO actual reasoning at all and the moment his wagon weakened, you stayed off from him.

What's more is the moment you took off your vote you practically ignored him only voicing soft suspicions. Your vote for SV Vote actually derailed the Scott wagon greatly, what's more is this is very flimsy reasoning compared to how you're describing your "strong" push on Scott. What's more is you've even used your own bias against Andrew as reasoning for not voting Scott at times, this makes no sense if you consider yourself to be putting a "strong" push on Scott.
tl;dr, David says he's town because he pushed for the Scott wagon hard. He doesn't even fucken remember who started the wagon either. He gave no reasoning why and this was his excuse to jump off.
David Iso #3 wrote:@SV: Ugh, no?

Vote: Shattered viewpoint
This is what
destroyed the Scott wagon on Day 1
. Doesn't take a genius to figure out this is a
weak reason
when DP was
very confident
in Scott being scum. Why would DP jump off his vote when he was so confident? Note that he also voted Park, But unvoted saying,
DavidParker wrote:
Vote: SHOTTY


best lynch for today with our limited time.
Sounds to me like he considered bussing but decided against it.
DP wrote:I just iso'd myself (to remind myself of my earlier views and vote movement), and see no reason as to how I'm either werewolf or scum.
Why does a townie need to remind themselves of who they vote and have suspicions of?

Then we have these two gems, claims it's a typo...
Lateralus22 wrote:
DP wrote:I'm expecting a scum flip, i think jason or Later is a werewolf.
DP wrote:Right now,
we should be looking at who tried to derail
the shotty wagon or
didn't want a shotty lynch
because having your werewolf buddy lynched day 1 with a seer in the game is never a good idea
so I doubt he was bussed.
VC wrote:drmyshottyizsik (7) -silverbullet999,
jasonT1981, OpposedForce,
chkflip, Shattered Viewpoint, parknourie, DavidParker [Lynched.]
You've slipped
Lateralus22 wrote:
DP Iso #33 wrote:Right now, we should be looking at who tried to derail the shotty wagon or didn't want a shotty lynch because having your werewolf buddy lynched day 1 with a seer in the game is never a good idea so
I doubt he was bussed.
DP Iso #37 wrote:I'm VERY sure SV is the remaining werewolf
drmyshottyizsik (7) -silverbullet999, jasonT1981, OpposedForce, chkflip,
Shattered Viewpoint
, parknourie, DavidParker [Lynched.]
Yeah. Which one is it? Seriously.
Note:
He also constantly tried to demolish andrew credibility for no reason. He ignored why when I asked him.

DavidParker wrote:Wow, i now understand my slip.
[1]


it's actually a typo.

I think jason or Later is scum, not werewolf.[2]

I've made it clear that I think SV is shotty's werewolf buddy. Obviously Jason or Later can't be the third werewolf as there only is two. This 3 faction game has gotten me confused between wolves and scum. That post was meant to read I thought one of you two is probably scum (or both at the time), I've consistently believed SV to be shotty's werewolf buddy.
1. Notice how he says it in a way where he acknowledges it as real.
2. There is a HUGE difference between Mafia and werewolf. Did David ever have any trouble separating the two in game? Did anyone notice where he makes this mistake when he's saying it's such a huge problem?

Look at the original post...
DavidParker wrote:
Vote: parknourie


Cya mate.

I'm expecting a scum flip, i think jason or Later is a werewolf.
Like I said, big difference. Wouldn't it be more natural to say I think these guys are your buddy or say they're probably your partner? I really doubt this is a typo. If he meant it as the default why just say "scum"? werewolf is
very
specific as opposed to the generic mafia.

Also there is a HUGE difference in his tone on Day 1 compared to Day 3. Remember how he attacks andrew for being stupid and he claims that it unimaginable for anyone to suspect him except andrew? Where is his fiery attitude from the previous days? He's scum who's reserved and backed into the corner, his tone is scripted. If he really thought it was stupid he would let me have it as town instead of censoring the same type of hate he showed towards andrew.
DP wrote:The reason I wasn't voting SV is because it's clear to me we do need some discussion today since obviously there is a tear between voting me or SV (or one and then the other), i feel regardless of SV's flip i'll be lynched tomorrow, so
i'd rather get some discussion going today
and avoid that via scum-hunting the actual scum.
^Note how he voted for SV WITHOUT looking heavily into who is scum. Scum-DP wants someone else to make a case for him, why else did he not present his own case when he voiced concern for how the day went?
DP wrote:Who do I think is scum? I Haven't actually got a strong opinion on that. I'm VERY sure SV is the remaining werewolf but as for scum, I admit to not actively looking into who is a likely candidate at the time being.
There's a few people I have strong town reads on
, so the remaining would all be people I would look at.
As for now, my only strong town read is CHK.
How the hell did multiple STRONG town reads become 1?
So, jason/later/smash are the ones I'll be looking at mostly.
^Notice how two of these people are one's attacking him and the other is just a random name with suspicion put on him for NO REASON. When I ask DP for a case he doesn't give anything, in the very least I WANT REASONS. Or are these random names?

DP: Give me TWO suspects and REASONS why they are scum. I am tired of your stalling. Also tell me why you thought Scott was the mafia. Don't give me any "oh but he flipped mafia" nonsense, I want reasons as to why you were suspicious of him when you didn't even know who created the case.




How can you Win Open 263 - The Wild Life????


Code: Select all

Vote: David Parker


@smash, Please put DP at L-1,
no one here is going to try and quick hammer, I doubt andrew even would considering how freaken long it took to lynch SV


@Andrew, we are not lynching smash, I doubt both you and chk are the mafia but we are still lynching David first. Please put your vote somewhere where it'll matter. How do you feel about DP versus jason?
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Post Post #685 (isolation #57) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:49 am

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smash please hammer, end the madness now. If by some 1% chance I'm wrong then shit gets very real for me, but I'm not so it's ok.
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Post Post #687 (isolation #58) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:24 am

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Finally, now we just wait for kunk ^_^
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Post Post #689 (isolation #59) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:26 am

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Dunno, doesn't matter much cuz I seriously doubt that.

If he does I'd probably take IAU's case more seriously and look at chk/smash just in case.
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Post Post #695 (isolation #60) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:53 pm

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Frack >.>

Mod: Why was DP allowed to self vote?


Gonna reread, still don't think jason is scum but meh >.>
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Post Post #697 (isolation #61) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:05 pm

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Are you seriously voting for the most obvious town player? Seriously? Do you even think he's scum?
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Post Post #699 (isolation #62) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:05 pm

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chkflip wrote:
Would prefer to not waste a lynch like this
, but I suppose there's no overall harm if nights are no more.
chkflip wrote:
Would prefer to not waste a lynch like this
, but I suppose there's no overall harm if nights are no more.
chkflip wrote:
Would prefer to not waste a lynch like this
, but I suppose there's no overall harm if nights are no more.
chkflip wrote:
Would prefer to not waste a lynch like this
, but I suppose there's no overall harm if nights are no more.
chkflip wrote:
Would prefer to not waste a lynch like this
, but I suppose there's no overall harm if nights are no more.
chkflip wrote:
Would prefer to not waste a lynch like this
, but I suppose there's no overall harm if nights are no more.
chkflip wrote:
Would prefer to not waste a lynch like this
, but I suppose there's no overall harm if nights are no more.
WTF, Did you seriously hammer when you THOUGHT HE WAS TOWN is that WASTE A LYNCH means? Or did I just catch you scum slip?
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Post Post #705 (isolation #63) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:05 am

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ANDREW: SMASH IS SCUM VOTE HIM GUYS!
JASON: HEY MAKE CASE
CHK: WATCH ME HAMMER SOMEONE I THINK IS TOWN LOL
IAU: "MAKES A CASE ON PROBABLE TOWN" LEAVES FOR TWO WEEKS
LAT: WTF IS GOING ON.




Goddamnit, andrew DO A PBPA PLEASE and point out what is scummy.

jason, PLEASE TALK TO ME ABOUT CHK

SMASH DO SOMETHING FOR ONCE THIS GAME, WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU?

CHK: SAY SOMETHING!

goddamnit.
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Post Post #706 (isolation #64) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:16 am

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Fuck this game is frustrating.

Let's just quick lynch chk/smash/jason and be done with it >.>
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Post Post #708 (isolation #65) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:22 am

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why do you insist on making me doubt you're town? >.>

god maybe IAU was right >.>
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Post Post #710 (isolation #66) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:24 am

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Wait, you don't even want to know why I'm doubting you're town?
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Post Post #711 (isolation #67) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:25 am

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Fuck, there's no way IAU or Andrew are scum.

Can I have the top two lynch targets of everyone please?

Mine,

1. chk
2. jason/smash
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Post Post #714 (isolation #68) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:27 am

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smash, andrew is not scum. I get that people think vi players look scummy but he's way too transparent for this to be bussing. There is no opportunism in his posts, he really believes in what he's saying.

vote: chkflip


tell me what you think about the jason case, about every single point please.
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Post Post #715 (isolation #69) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:36 am

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Actually,

unvote


for now,
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Post Post #717 (isolation #70) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:01 am

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What did you think of chk's hammer? Of his suspicions of you?
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Post Post #719 (isolation #71) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:19 am

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>.> reactionfishing, seriously? What happened to your reads on IAU and smash, your top two?
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Post Post #720 (isolation #72) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:27 am

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chkflip wrote:- The DParker case is looking really good,
So basically. You say my case is good, which encourages the attack on DP and throw dirt on me at the same time. Yet, You believe DP is town, wtf? Why would you be saying a case on someone you think is town is good?

Vote: chkflip


Your vote for jason is weak.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #73) » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:41 pm

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Andrew, will
anything
convince you that smash is town?
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Post Post #728 (isolation #74) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:23 am

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smashbro_of_the_SSS wrote: and I did promise to vote park, but DP came on and hammered before I did. I was in support of the lynch, but I was just didn't come back on in time.
smash wrote:Also, we have to decide what we would rather do, lynch who we believe to be mafia or werewolf. Originally, I wanted to say mafia next, giving the werewolf a chance to take out some mafia. But if we leave the werewolf around, we could be losing obv town players at night instead of mafia. In this situation, it would be better to get rid of the werewolf and then only lynch people who are scummier, rather than losing an obv town player. It all comes down to who we think the Werewolf will kill. What do you guys think? I don't mind going for a Werewolf at this point.
:neutral:
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Post Post #730 (isolation #75) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:38 am

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FAKE CLAIM: I PROMISED TO LYNCH PARK GUYS, I
PROMISED

REALITY: HM???????? SHOULD WE LYNCH SCUM OR WOLVES GUYS? I THINK ITS WOLVES.

Am I missing something?
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Post Post #731 (isolation #76) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:42 am

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and I did promise to vote park, but DP came on and hammered before I did. I was in support of the lynch, but I was just didn't come back on in time.
what's the face for? Yeah, I changed my mind to go after a werewolf rather than mafia. That way we would have more lynches rather than werewolves having kills. Makes sense to me.
These quotes contradict Yo.
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Post Post #732 (isolation #77) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:45 am

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psh, you're gonna run off now? It's ok, you already tried to play it off like you knew about your wolves plan all along. You've lost your chance to play it off as mis-remembering.

Unvote;
Vote: Smash
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Post Post #738 (isolation #78) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:19 am

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That you fucken
lied
to me.
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Post Post #740 (isolation #79) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:22 am

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You said you promised to hammer Park as a defence from Andrew, then instantly when I showed you the quote you said you wanted to go for the werewolves. If you were telling the truth you would have realized you mis remembered something or that one of your stories were false, but you didn't. You tried to play it off like you knew all along.
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Post Post #742 (isolation #80) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:28 am

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You should seriously check your Iso better when you're scum. That post you made Park was at L-2, how can you possibly say you wanted to hammer when you were trying to decide to yourself whether to go after scum or wolves?
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Post Post #744 (isolation #81) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:38 am

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So, look at the last part of our conversation. You admit that you wanted to go after the wolves. How could you have possibly thought that you wanted to go after the wolves AND hammer park before your last post?
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Post Post #747 (isolation #82) » Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:10 am

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jason, any comments?
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Post Post #753 (isolation #83) » Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:57 am

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FUCK YES, TERMINATE ALL HULLINATERS, YEAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

FUCK, ANDREW WAS RIGHT ALMOST
EVERYTHING


Finally, btw Kunk is awesome.
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Post Post #755 (isolation #84) » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:01 am

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<3
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Post Post #760 (isolation #85) » Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:41 am

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jasonT1981 wrote:I agree with Shitty lynch, however Andrew, come out of lurking.. your V/LA? how come your posting in other games? you have questions to answer, Andrew... come on...
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Post Post #764 (isolation #86) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:42 am

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qt please

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