Mini 1094 - Mariposa Peak Mafia - Game Over!

[Powerrox93]

BTW carrotcake is at L-2 now if my math is correct, so CC should IMO claim now

[Nachomamma8]

BTW carrotcake is at L-2 now if my math is correct, so CC should IMO claim now

No. This is ridiculous.

[Carrotcake]

Seraph, I'm not back-peddaling. . Are you trying to act like a moron to irritate me?

1.) You maliciously ass-kiss.
2.) You have inside knowledge.

They don't contradict each other.
They both mean you are scum.

nyone who bothers to look back will see that there are other reasons that I voted for Guderian besides "being an idiotic troll".

What are the reasons then?
You didn't say "idiotic troll". But read between your own lines.
This is what you meant. This is your reason.

Your entire defense of me is deflection by reflection. I called you on your contradiction, and to defuse the case, you hope to fabricate a similar one against me.

To poweree: Go jump off a ditch, rolefisher. The case against me is imaginary.

[Carrotcake]

And singer, before you go: "It's not imaginary if people are voting!".

1.) Seraph is voting against me because of omgus.
2.) You, too, are omgusing.
3.) Agar is trying to save his neck by building momentum on someone else.

[singersigner]

And singer, before you go: "It's not imaginary if people are voting!".

1.) Seraph is voting against me because of omgus.
2.) You, too, are omgusing.
3.) Agar is trying to save his neck by building momentum on someone else.

Wanna try that again? Just because you claim something is omgus, doesn't make it true. Why don't you actually try building a case on someone for once? I might just have a little more respect for you.

Oh, are you going to try and say you weren't "singling me out" this time?

[AGar]

And singer, before you go: "It's not imaginary if people are voting!".

1.) Seraph is voting against me because of omgus.
2.) You, too, are omgusing.
3.) Agar is trying to save his neck by building momentum on someone else.

Lawl. OMGUS is a nice buzzword you've got there. And I'm sorry, did you expect me to simply go down easily? God, and you called us awful.

[DemonHybrid]

Doing another prod check sometime tomorrow afternoon. Christmas day really swamped me and I'll get to the vote count later tonight, but prodding will be done tomorrow afternoon and I WILL prod you if you haven't been posting through the holidays and you aren't on V/LA.

[DemonHybrid]

Vote Count

Day 2 Vote Count (#4)

Carrotcake

- 4 (singersigner, Seraphim, Powerrox93, AGar)

AGar

- 3 (Thor665, Nachomamma8, Reckamonic)

Seraphim

- 1 (Carrotcake)

Not Voting

- 2 (sims5487, Blood Queen)

With 10 players, it takes 6 to lynch and 5 for a No Lynch. Deadline is scheduled for January 3rd, 2011 at 2:00:00 PM Eastern Standard Time. The deadline may be extended due to the holidays and will be decided on a later date.

Powerrox93 is V/LA from December 26th to December 28th.

Reckamonic is V/LA from December 22nd to an unknown time.

Seraphim is V/LA from December 23rd until January 1st.

singersigner is V/LA from December 26th until December 30th.

AGar is V/LA on December 26th and from December 31st until January 3rd.

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[Seraphim]

1.) You maliciously ass-kiss.
2.) You have inside knowledge.

They don't contradict each other.
They both mean you are scum.

Yes, but you seem to enjoy interchanging them with each other with no basis to suit your argument.

How is ass-kissing malicious? On another note, how are my actions classified as ass-kissing? Oh wait, I declared your main suspect town, not just town, but obv town. In a complete 360 you start attacking me as having insider information which seems to directly contradict your initial attack on Thor as scum. So, in order for you not to be back-pedaling, your two reasons must hold true from when you made to the assertion.

If I'm scum, and am maliciously ass-kissing and have insider information, as you say, then Thor and I CAN'T be scum together because in order to ass-kiss, we must be different alignments, that is the point of buddying. Also, if I have insider information that Thor is town, Thor can't be scum because he's town.

Your reasons say that Thor and I can't be scum together yet you attacked us TOGETHER which invalidates your reasoning OR it implies that you had different reasons for my "buddying" attempt when you started questioning my actions, which means that you've been backpedaling.

This is what you meant. This is your reason.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Your entire defense of me is deflection by reflection. I called you on your contradiction, and to defuse the case, you hope to fabricate a similar one against me.

????

I seriously can't figure this out.

1.) Seraph is voting against me because of omgus.

lawl

[Thor665]

BTW carrotcake is at L-2 now if my math is correct, so CC should IMO claim now

No. This is ridiculous.

@Nacho - that was indeed super amusing but...reads?

[Thor665]

To clarify above - you've voted AGar and suggested CC isn't scum, is that all you've got from 17 pages and two flips?

[Seraphim]

Thor: do you think Carrotcake is town?

[Thor665]

Right at the moment I'm leaning yes. I don't agree with her cases but I see a logical enough flow in them that it's not making my toes curl. the best hit I've seen scored against her was the one you just did about the oddness of her case assaulting me when you buddying me was part of her case on you - but I don't know enough of her playstyle to feel confident calling that a scummy contradiction.

[DemonHybrid]

Blood Queen will be replaced; she never picked up her prod.

Prodding sims5487.

[DemonHybrid]

mothrax replaces Blood Queen! Thank you a ton!

Please welcome him.

[singersigner]

UNVOTE:
My vote's useless while V/LA. See ya on the flip side.

[Nachomamma8]

AGar - No, that's not my problem with ISO #8.

There is scum in the mix of Gud/BQ/PR/sims. Potentially multiple. Possibly all, not likely. The wagons evened out too quickly, like "Oh shit, no bus, no bus."

I'm leaning sims & BQ. If a third, Gud.

Wagons are 4-4 atm (me/Sims).

Go BQ first. If BQ flips scum, then Sims.

This is my problem with ISO #8. This declaration came out of absolutely nowhere, and you don't explain it as if it didn't. And it sets up for some mighty fine wagon hopping; your previous two suspicions are still on the list, so if Thor pursued Powerrox or the Guderian wagon, you'd still be fine. But here's the clincher- you magic a connection between BQ and sims, then vote for BQ. This allows you to stay off the sims lynch until the bandwagon gets large, and then you can simply say that sims and BQ were scumbuddies anyways and vote for sims.

Then, your "connection":

Sims wagon was at 4, mine was at 3 and had recently pulled ahead. BQ, while posting about everything else, stuck her vote on my wagon, bringing them back to a tie scenario. If I had to pick out 3, I'd say sims was their scum buddy, Gud put a 3rd vote on him to look like a bit of pressure, PR (town in this scenario) puts his vote on sims to make it 4 and then BQ panics at the wagon actually pulling ahead and votes me to tie them back up.

BQ tying the wagon would not be a scumtell at all UNLESS sims was scum. But who does he vote for? The person WITHOUT a wagon on them. Smells doubly like a bus to me. Not only does this let him push a lynch on BQ once sims dies, but it also gives him an excuse to stay off the wagon.

[Nachomamma8]

I can never read Reckamonic due to dram's chronic lurking dominating the hydra. Depends on the AGar case; if it's like their case on Guderian, I can probably safely call this slot scum.

You and Seraphim both read town to me, although I think that you're both focusing on your tops a little too much. It'd be great if you looked for other scum on the wagon, and he looked for ones off of them.

Sims is scum for voting Guderian for claiming SK to ensure at least one scum survived to the endgame.

SS reads scummy for the huge argument with CC then an immedite jump onto the Guderian wagon.

I'm still wondering what the hell PR was thinking with the L-2 claim demand.

BQ is town. I like her followup on the AGar vote.

[Powerrox93]

I'm still wondering what the hell PR was thinking with the L-2 claim demand.

I thought it was SOP to claim when at L-2...

[AGar]

AGar - No, that's not my problem with ISO #8.

There is scum in the mix of Gud/BQ/PR/sims. Potentially multiple. Possibly all, not likely. The wagons evened out too quickly, like "Oh shit, no bus, no bus."

I'm leaning sims & BQ. If a third, Gud.

Wagons are 4-4 atm (me/Sims).

Go BQ first. If BQ flips scum, then Sims.

This is my problem with ISO #8. This declaration came out of absolutely nowhere, and you don't explain it as if it didn't. And it sets up for some mighty fine wagon hopping; your previous two suspicions are still on the list, so if Thor pursued Powerrox or the Guderian wagon, you'd still be fine. But here's the clincher- you magic a connection between BQ and sims, then vote for BQ. This allows you to stay off the sims lynch until the bandwagon gets large, and then you can simply say that sims and BQ were scumbuddies anyways and vote for sims.

This is all great and such, except I clearly explained everything when apparently people didn't get what I was saying, I stuck to the BQ wagon until Gud pulled the SK claim, and I never once pushed for a sims lynch, nor aimed for it. I specifically said BQ needed to go first, and I only had a conditional read on sims. Sounds pretty much like I wasn't gonna gun for sims. Early game vote shifts happen as if they came from nowhere pretty often, as most early game wagons/votes are fueled by weak reasoning, so a strong reason might appear somewhere.

Then, your "connection":

Sims wagon was at 4, mine was at 3 and had recently pulled ahead. BQ, while posting about everything else, stuck her vote on my wagon, bringing them back to a tie scenario. If I had to pick out 3, I'd say sims was their scum buddy, Gud put a 3rd vote on him to look like a bit of pressure, PR (town in this scenario) puts his vote on sims to make it 4 and then BQ panics at the wagon actually pulling ahead and votes me to tie them back up.

BQ tying the wagon would not be a scumtell at all UNLESS sims was scum. But who does he vote for? The person WITHOUT a wagon on them. Smells doubly like a bus to me. Not only does this let him push a lynch on BQ once sims dies, but it also gives him an excuse to stay off the wagon.

Conversely, sims wouldn't be scum unless BQ was trying to save him from what I gathered. And how is pushing for the player without a wagon constitute a bus? You're kidding right?

Honestly, Nacho pegging almost half of the remaining players as scum (Myself, sims, SS, and reckamonic) and then calling a slot with little-to-no actual activity town is laughable at best.

[mothrax]

Working on catching up. Pg 7 right now.

[Reckamonic]

Fucking fuck fuck.

Looks like this V/LA will last a bit longer. Will try to post a bit during the week. If worst comes to worst, dram will be arriving in Raleigh in 6 days, 7 hours, and 4 minutes to stay with me for two weeks, so we'll definitely be active then.

[Thor665]

In bed?

[Reckamonic]

only half of us at a time Thor.

[Thor665]

I just wanted to narrow down the locations of definite activity