Mini 1090: Of Rogues and Curses ~ Game Over

[Vi]

I really should be asleep right now, but.

Vi - I am quite adept at arguing with myself but I'm not arguing against myself. :dealwithit:

nocase - Troll said he was confTown, and the only way that would be wrong is if both Troll AND nocase were scum. It's not completely impossible, but so convoluted that it's close enough. HOWEVER, I still remain concerned that his alignment may have changed with lycanthropy and the lack of Trolling in this thread is not easing my fears.

tanstalas - Was willing to stick up for a scummy claimed Vanilla lynchbait who just flipped Townie, semi-claiming in the process. There has to be a reeeeeally good case to push that away.

gandalf - I can definitely see where his mouth gets him in trouble, but at the same time I'm not getting a particularly harmful vibe from his posts. In addition, this would be the first time I've seen scum so readily claim VT and claim that they've been softclaiming it all game.

inHim - Play isn't all that good, but he's claimed a confirmable role that makes no sense for scum to have. IMO, that should be enough.

Troll - Scum giving a Vig ability to Town isn't unheard of but it's also the opposite of common. His play was really not convincing and not having him around doesn't do much for me, thus causing a conundrum that I'd really wish wasn't there.

Who's left...

mothrax - lol, mothrax

xvart - I'm not overthrilled with the play overall for reasons that have been beaten to death, but I do appreciate his defense against the arguments vs. his claim. His claim in itself isn't anything scum couldn't go for themselves, and some of the behavior about basically making me make him claim and not recognizing "unique" is strange, but the fact that he was willing to breadcrumb it early gives slight pause.

Uite - Most of how Uite has managed to look Town so far has come essentially by accident. His choices of targets range from bad to very bad, and he hasn't done a whole lot with the two others in "who's left" to convince me that he's not scum with them. Having looked through his record, I know he's a competent player, which further bothers me considering the only near-lynch wagons he has been on belonged to Mariyta and gandalf.

The reason I bothered to do this was because IF xvart is/flipped Town, THEN people would start coming down on two people who IMO shouldn't be getting lynched unless there's some argument I don't know about that's more compelling than what I listed above. So I wanted to make sure I had my own facts straight.

tl;dr These last three should be our lynch pool for Today if I didn't miss anything. If I missed something, tell me.

[nocase]

I disagree. Exe, Troll or mothrax would all be superior lynches at this juncture.

[nocase]

huh.

[inHimshallibe]

:goodposting:

V/LA through Sunday evening. Happy New Year!

[Zorblag]

This is simply a prod response. The break has continued to be busy and I've not had a chance to look at MS at all since my last post in this thread. I'll get some actual content in before I head out for the evening tomorrow and once the quarter starts on Monday I'll actually be in a much more settled schedule.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Ythill]

I did a prod check due to general inactivity. Mothrax has been prodded.

• Vote Count
  
  3 ~ xvart (nocase, tanstalas, inHimshallibe)
  1 ~ tanstalas (xvart)
  1 ~ inHimshallibe (Zorblag)
  1 ~ Seraphim (Uite)
  
  Not voting: mothrax, Seraphim, Vi

• Notes
  
  
• With nine alive, it takes five to lynch.
  
• Deadline is Saturday, January 8th, 22:00 PST (GMT-8).
  
• D2 Prods: Zorblag (1), Mothrax (1).
  
• Overall prods: Zorblag (2).
  
• Vi will be V/LA until December 31st.
  
• InHimshallibe will be V/LA until January 2nd.

[mothrax]

Responding to prod. Crazy schedule got crazy, try to have something up in a few hours.

[xvart]

tanstalas - Was willing to stick up for a scummy claimed Vanilla lynchbait who just flipped Townie, semi-claiming in the process. There has to be a reeeeeally good case to push that away.

Vi - can you expand on this? I'm not following and I looked back through his ISO and couldn't see this part.

inHim - Play isn't all that good, but he's claimed a confirmable role that makes no sense for scum to have. IMO, that should be enough.

I have to disagree about the part about scum having this role; but I suppose it depends on the mechanics of how his action specifically works. inHim - in your role pm did it say you would be able to summon VP or someone that dies or the first person that dies? Also, wasn't there something about Vi being able to collaborate once Vi dies?

[mothrax]

For Nocase

Prob-town:
Vi - no scum reason to claim what she did when she did. If what she said is true she dies tonight anyways and we will see with the flip. Also has taken a strong pro-town hunting role
inhim - i don't see scum motivation for coming forth with his role information when he did. It is also not a role that I could see benifiting scum. It is also easily confirmable.
nocase- confirmed daykiller, and I did have a strong town read on him, but he is probably the closest to unsure atm in this group.
zorblag- has moved to the unsure catagory. My townread was mostly gut and his ability seems to be town sofar but untill we get more answers I won't know for sure.

unsure- both of these were here mainly because I needed to reread them... both are leaning scum imo
uite- Uite has failed to take a stance on most things, and appears very wishy-washy in thread.
xvart - I don't believe his claim one bit.

prob scum
gandalf - moved into unsure in recent posts... will wait to see what seraphim has to say as well
tanstalas- tansscum busses. Uberbusses.

[mothrax]

also
@Troll/nocase: can you tell me how long the werebeer lasts? Will it be all game?

[mothrax]

and to further along the molassesmassclaim: I am the hypnotist, the town delayed roleblocker. I have to submit my targets a phase ahead of time. I targeted Gandalf N0(he would have been blocked N1) and Vi N1 (will be blocked N2)

[tanstalas]

tanstalas- tansscum busses. Uberbusses.

I LOL'd

[nocase]

unvote. vote: mothrax.

i don't know if this answers your question but my ability is one-shot.

[Seraphim]

Alright, New Years and shit has moved back my reread, I'll see if I can get started though.

[Vi]

xvart 782 - See tanstalas 241 and Vi 732 for tanstalas and inHim respectively.

In the meantime,

and to further along the molassesmassclaim: I am the hypnotist, the town delayed roleblocker. I have to submit my targets a phase ahead of time. I targeted Gandalf N0(he would have been blocked N1)

and Vi N1 (will be blocked N2)

Is it just me or is this a giant scumclaim?

unvote. vote: mothrax.

Nope, not just me.

Cookies

Pizza if you can see the three issues with this.

Vote: mothrax

(L-3)
Now with extra

LOCK ON: mothrax

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[Seraphim]

Vote: Mothrax

I haven't quite finished reading but holy shit, looking at this last page, that claim is so scummy it's ridiculous. It's worthy of my vote even without all the other scummy things he's done.

I promise I'll elaborate later along with more fun reads of other players too!

[nocase]

*eyes seraphim warily*

[Vi]

Seraphim gets no pizza.

Bonus round, related to one of the three issues mentioned above:
mothrax-Town implies xvart-scum, although mothrax-scum doesn't quite mean xvart-Town. The pizza for guessing this one has a cheese-stuffed crust.

[tanstalas]

VLA until probably Sunday

Booze time!

[Seraphim]

Psh, don't worry, we'll all be huggly buddies soon enough.

It's just that reading 20-odd pages of fruitless wagoning, of ALMOST lynching the scum and then almost switching and THEN almost lynching scum etc etc etc gets me ANTSY.

[Vi]

The first one was Town, Seraphim. Besides, we were entertaining, so it was worth reading.

That, and there are quite a few people ANTSY about your player slot.

[Seraphim]

Well sure, I never claimed it was exactly an accurate reread of past events.

I may be a tad biased in this regard but I thought Gandalf's play was rather indicative of a town alignment but that's just me. Besides, who actually READS recap posts?

[Vi]

I promise I'll elaborate later along with more fun reads of other players too!

Doesn't involve recapping.

[Seraphim]

Sure it doesn't.

That was a joke.

Get it?

Ha. Ha.

[nocase]

since you obviously have the time to pay attention to the thread and hold a convo with vi, why don't you get on with producing the content you promised?