Along with what popsofctown told you, you could also have hit the Post Reply button before typing your post, by the way.WrathChild wrote:(See next post because of Quick Reply non-boldability)
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Pro: Votes are happening.
Con: Everyone thinks someone different is scum.
Also, chkflip, thanks for post 417. I'll stop picking on you now.
Thanks for replacing, SC.
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I <3 StrangerCoug he's the coolest"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Aww...STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Your name has turned green though. Is it feeling sick?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I'm list mod (not for the large themes, though). That's why it's green.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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popsofctown SheSurvivorShe
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give your name a warm cup of chamomile tea maybe it will feel better."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I would if I knew how to make it xD
Anyway, we're getting off track.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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LynchMePls (0) -
RedCoyote (0) -
MagnaOfIllusion (0) -
themanhimself (0) -
Lateralus22 (0) -
WrathChild (2) -Parama, diddin
curiouskarmadog (2) -Nero Cain, chkflip
Helghast (3) -RedCoyote, Lateralus22, popsofctown
Powerrox93 (0) -
quadz08 (1) -StrangerCoug
chkflip (0) -
Nero Cain (0) -
Narsis (1) -Saint
q21 (0) -
diddin (0) -
popsofctown (1) -MagnaofIllusion
SnakePlissken (0) -
I Am Innocent (0) -
UnofficialRulerOfEveryone (0) -
Parama (2) -EtherealCookie, Powerrox93
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EtherealCookie (2) -Narsis, I Am Innocent
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Not Voting (10) -LynchMePls, Helghast, implosion, SnakePlissken, WrathChild, quadz08, q21, themanhimself, curiouskarmadog
With 23 Alive, it takes 12 to lynch.Last edited by The Eruci on Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.Cyclic Experimentation Set x02.
Equality is a perversion of the natural order!It binds the strong to the weak. They [the weak] become anchors that drag the exceptional down to mediocrity. Individuals destined and deserving of greatness have it denied them. They [the strong] suffer for the sake of keeping them even with their inferiors.-
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I think we need to start organizing our votes a little bit and since I've already talked about the scum vibe I've gotten from EC I'm gonna go ahead and VOTE: EtherealCookie. That said I really don't like what Saint said to diddin, seems like scum trying to protect one of his buddies to me with the threat of retribution.If P then Q.
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What do you wanna achieve with doing that kind of list?WrathChild wrote:Post Count:
-LynchMePls: 2
-RedCoyote: 12
-MagnaOfIllusion: 11
-themanhimself: 21
-Lateralus22* (Thelonging): 24
-WrathChild: 23
-curiouskarmadog: 28
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-Nero Cain: 11
-Narsis: 6
-Q21: 3
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-popsofctown: 54
-SnakePlissken: 1
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3 Posts and less than 90 minutes later (after Eruci vote count and AntB saying he's dead):The Eruci - Post 333 wrote:AntB,Erucialtered toNeutral Survivor, executed by The Judges Day 1.
Very next post, 1 minute after the previous one:popsofctown wrote:mod, I actually can probably figure out the rest of this game without AntBs original alignment, but can we find out what cycling power died with him? I feel like concealing that info gives more advantage to the scum faction than the town one, since they have more info about the available powers than we do.
Just over 7 hours after AntB died, another player mentioning AntB was town:popsofctown wrote:ebwop, the mod said he was a townie. I got confused by the town alignment being named after the mod :S
Mod comes in and has opportunity to correct himself, and does not...only clarifies a lack of power by AntB (9 hours after AntB died):themanhimself - Post 347 wrote:Alright, AntB was town so I checked who's voted him and it's been CKD and powerrox so I'm gonna read them both in ISO and post my thoughts.
Then comes three posts in a row by ckd, not only questioning the mod which pops did, but other players as well. This was the main difference in my mind and what struck me as more odd than what pops did right after the flip:The Eruci - Post 352 wrote:All powers that are eliminated on deaths will be revealed as was done with muh316's death. An absence of mention of lost power, such as in AntB's case, signifies that they were not carrying any ability when they died.
curiouskarmadog - Post 355 wrote:
wait, was he scum or town?The Eruci wrote:
AntB,Erucialtered toNeutral Survivor, executed by The Judges Day 1.
Day One Continues.curiouskarmadog wrote:
where did the mod say that?popsofctown wrote:ebwop, the mod said he was a townie. I got confused by the town alignment being named after the mod :S
I am missing it..how do you know he is town?themanhimself wrote:Alright, AntB was town so I checked who's voted him and it's been CKD and powerrox so I'm gonna read them both in ISO and post my thoughts.
In all reality though, Pop's original slip could also be a scum tell and should probably be worth keeping an eye on. Just during my initial read, ckd's jumped out at me more...curiouskarmadog wrote:
oooh I see..."Name, Eruci altered to Survivor"...The Eruci wrote:AntB,Erucialtered toNeutral Survivor, executed by The Judges Day 1.
Day One Continues.
I read it as "Name, Mod altered to Survivor".....ShowTown 21-21-1
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Pops, rereading this made me have the following questions:popsofctown wrote:mod, I actually can probably figure out the rest of this game without AntBs original alignment, but can we find out what cycling power died with him? I feel like concealing that info gives more advantage to the scum faction than the town one, since they have more info about the available powers than we do.
1) What did you exactly mean that "I actually can probably figure out the rest of this game without AntBs original alignment"
2) What did you exactly mean "I feel like concealing that info gives more advantage to the scum faction than the town one, since they have more info about the available powers than we do."
Thinking about this more from my end:
1) Assuming just 2 factions, scum would know that AntB was not on there team and wouldn't care about this information which you did not. As a townie / Eruci, had the mod not told me AntB's alignment, I would have wanted to know that. But this was not the case with you.
2) I am also wondering if it is more beneficial to scum to know lost power roles than town. Like a cop or doctor role....us losing them and not knowing about them does not hurt the town imo, but that knowledge could help the scum decide whether or not to try to take out a player with the dayvig or not.ShowTown 21-21-1
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I think what happened here was he read it as 'The Mod altered AntB to Neutral Survivor' since Eruci is the mod name in this game. I'm more suspicious of pops' reaction in that situation.curiouskarmadog wrote:
oooh I see..."Name, Eruci altered to Survivor"...The Eruci wrote:AntB,Erucialtered toNeutral Survivor, executed by The Judges Day 1.
Day One Continues.
I read it as "Name, Mod altered to Survivor".....If P then Q.
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You know what, I think they both slipped, now that this has been brought to my attention. I'm happy with diddin shooting either, and both if he can today.I Am Innocent wrote:In all reality though, Pop's original slip could also be a scum tell and should probably be worth keeping an eye on. Just during my initial read, ckd's jumped out at me more...STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I could probably get behind that. I'm good with either one, I think pops is more likely scum right now though, see post @125 for my reasoning.StrangerCoug wrote:
You know what, I think they both slipped, now that this has been brought to my attention. I'm happy with diddin shooting either, and both if he can today.I Am Innocent wrote:In all reality though, Pop's original slip could also be a scum tell and should probably be worth keeping an eye on. Just during my initial read, ckd's jumped out at me more...If P then Q.
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Keep in mind I misread the mod's post as "AntB turned into a Neutral Survivor and died. Move on." So it seemed to indicate that for some reason or other related to the offense, the mod didn't think it was fit to reveal the player's alignment.I Am Innocent wrote:
Pops, rereading this made me have the following questions:popsofctown wrote:mod, I actually can probably figure out the rest of this game without AntBs original alignment, but can we find out what cycling power died with him? I feel like concealing that info gives more advantage to the scum faction than the town one, since they have more info about the available powers than we do.
1) What did you exactly mean that "I actually can probably figure out the rest of this game without AntBs original alignment"
2) What did you exactly mean "I feel like concealing that info gives more advantage to the scum faction than the town one, since they have more info about the available powers than we do."
Thinking about this more from my end:
1) Assuming just 2 factions, scum would know that AntB was not on there team and wouldn't care about this information which you did not. As a townie / Eruci, had the mod not told me AntB's alignment, I would have wanted to know that. But this was not the case with you.
2) I am also wondering if it is more beneficial to scum to know lost power roles than town. Like a cop or doctor role....us losing them and not knowing about them does not hurt the town imo, but that knowledge could help the scum decide whether or not to try to take out a player with the dayvig or not.
Since AntB had posted very little this game and seemed rather unconnected to other players, knowing his original alignment didn't seem like it would help me scumhunt the rest of the game. That's why I said I could probably "figure out", as in, identify everyone's alignment, without knowing what his was. So I wasn't going to protest the mod's imagined decision not to reveal AntB's alignment, not because I perceived a visibly good reason but because it really wouldn't help me anyhow.
As for 2), knowing the powers that died with the player helps town less than scum because we have less info. We only get to know our own power, if we have one. Scum know their own power and all their teammates'.
So the ratio of town knowledge to scum knowledge of the setup might be, say, 3:6. If you add one to each side by revealing AntB's power, it goes to 4:7, which is a better ratio. As the gap between the scum and town's knowledge of the setup decreases, our town night targetting will get as good as the scum's, and some day decisions too."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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That's the same misread I made. I just didn't explain it in as much detail because I'm not as paranoid.themanhimself wrote:
I think what happened here was he read it as 'The Mod altered AntB to Neutral Survivor' since Eruci is the mod name in this game. I'm more suspicious of pops' reaction in that situation.curiouskarmadog wrote:
oooh I see..."Name, Eruci altered to Survivor"...The Eruci wrote:AntB,Erucialtered toNeutral Survivor, executed by The Judges Day 1.
Day One Continues.
I read it as "Name, Mod altered to Survivor"....."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Sweet, I get to play a game with StrangerCoug.
The wiki is not GAWD, but the MAWD won't answer my question. So I assume it's correct.
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The wiki is a better source of info than implosion's role pm...
There's no way you would come to that conclusion unless you believed the wiki was a deity worthy of your worship."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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diddin, Helghast, and a tie between Lateralus/EC.SC 435 wrote:While you wait for me, though, could I have everybody's top three picks for scum and why?
I address it twice in my iso, but none of these players (although Lateralus has picked up Longing some) have really given me sincere, scumhunting vibes. diddin has just been all over the place as though he's nervous and constantly needs other people's approval.
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Oh, wow. I hadn't thought of this angle. This is, like, better than roleflips if we keep track of abilities.Magna 436 wrote:3. Whoever Diddin would pass it to would provide Mafia Pairing elimination
I get what you're saying here, but after diddin claimed, don't you think this throws all individual responsibility out the window? I mean, to an extent, diddin is going to be responsible regardless of what he says or does, but when you claim before shooting, you're effectively trying to rid yourself of total responsibility. I don't blame pops for trying to take advantage of the situation as town or scum. If a day kill is up for grabs, then you're going to try and direct it regardless of your alignment.Magna 437 wrote:Pops mainly has been pushing for the absolute direction of the Dayvig with lynching as the alternative. I don’t like that. Diddin being directed by ‘Town’ removes his culpability for the act if he vigs a bad target.
This is hypocritical, Magna. You say this and then in the next breath say Narsis or EC should be shot. Longing/Lateralus has more posts than EC and Narsis combined as of WC's post count.Magna 437 wrote:Pops also gets plenty of scum credit for early lurker hunting (The Longing) and pushing two weak, newer players as prime Vig targets.
As a cherry on the top, I don't particularly like your chkflip argument either. Helghast, among others, is worse than chkflip in the "concealing his scumhunting" department.
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Why would you not disclose this at the outset?diddin 438 wrote:Yeah I need to post inthread to activate my kill.
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Okay, you've mentioned this several times now. I'm starting to think you may be trying to earn sympathy here rather than explain your situation honestly. diddin isn't coming down on you particularly hard other than saying he prefers to shoot you. You should probably talk about more than just diddin, especially if you think you may be shot today.WC 444 wrote:You are tunneling on me because, as I've said multiple times, I AM NOT ABLE TO POST REGULARLY AND AM NOT ABLE TO PUT IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME NECESSARY TO SCUMHUNT/FEEL GOOD ABOUT VOTING ANYONE.
...and I see you did this in post 447, so you're back in my good graces.
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I haven't really commented on this because I don't see it as much in either instance. Maybe I'm being short-sighted, but I don't lend much credence to people speaking too quickly. I misread crap all the time, and only sometimes am I lucky enough to catch it before I run with it. That said, it could be a good alternative to use our shot on today.IAI 464 wrote:In all reality though, Pop's original slip could also be a scum tell and should probably be worth keeping an eye on. Just during my initial read, ckd's jumped out at me more...-
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