DEFCON Mafia 2.0 - Over, American Victory!

[danakillsu]

He's trying to gain town-cred for (claiming) having had a townie read on Bunny. I proved that according to his posts, he can't have had that read. Therefore he is lying and claiming reasons retroactively. I'd have said the same if he wasn't voting me.

Uh, he said before his absence and that it was a feeling, not a read. He's not trying to get credit for anything, just saying what he felt.

Also, Dana, do you approve of the nuke? Do you think anyone who nukes town should be lynched immediately?

I'm kinda on the fence. I have a pretty null read on Snake. I don't think ANYONE who nukes town should be lynched immediately, but the way SpyreX talked when he sent out the nuke, he's gotta be scum if Snake is town, or at least really horrible town (and I know Spy's not a horrible player).

[Jack]

Jack: Why not say that

before

you left?

I wanted to look over it more thoroughly, ended up not having time.

Why vote Bunny in the first place?

I thought he was scummy. What's the point of this question?

Your unvote was only because you weren't up to speed on the game, not because you had a townie feeling (you can't have that feeling if you're not up to speed on the game) so don't try to retroactively give a reason of how you "knew better" than everyone else.

Why did I bother unvoting then, genius? I became uncomfortable and wanted to be thorough.

Not even a little comment on Spy's nuke either?

by SpyreX » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:31 am
by Jack » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:31 am

Don't particularly like the nuke.

He's trying to gain town-cred for (claiming) having had a townie read on Bunny. I proved that according to his posts, he can't have had that read. Therefore he is lying and claiming reasons retroactively. I'd have said the same if he wasn't voting me.

You're attempt to make a case out of this is pretty obvscum.

[Faraday]

NUKE KATSUKI

[Faraday]

He's trying to gain town-cred for (claiming) having had a townie read on Bunny. I proved that according to his posts, he can't have had that read. Therefore he is lying and claiming reasons retroactively. I'd have said the same if he wasn't voting me.

WATTTT.

[AurorusVox]

Uh, he said before his absence

And that's why I asked, if he had that feeling "before his absence" (meaning before he was unable to post), why he didn't state that feeling

back then

. He unvoted Bunny but didn't mention this feeling, which would have been a perfect time to do so. So I take that to mean he didn't think it

at that time

, a time at which he still needed to get up to speed. And if he

then

was able to read, and his mind did change because of it, he could have posted to tell us he thought Bunny was town. Unless it came after Bunny flipped town, in which case his reason for thinking Bunny was town was (drumroll) because Bunny had flipped town...in which case he's applying retroactive reasoning. Why would he do this unless it was to gain credit for something?

the way SpyreX talked when he sent out the nuke

So this is a playstyle thing?

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NINJA EDIT:
Jack's responded:

- So now you're saying that you became uncomfortable with the Bunny wagon before you unvoted? Okay, but

why

was this not in your unvote post then? Would it have been hard to say "I think he's town, I'm gonna look more thoroughly at it" rather than some weak placeholder vote and "I need to catch up"? Could it have been because you knew it was a mislynch, and saw that you could slip off it and it would still go through?
- Doesn't the existence of previews mean you'd have seen SpyreX's nuke launch when you tried to post?

[Fate]

GHOST REPORTING.

NUKE: DANAKILLSU

NEVER SAY DIE.

[AurorusVox]

On re-reading Kat, I notice he put Fate higher on his townlist than himself ._."

Faraday's nuke is consistent with his suspicions.
Faraday: you are "pretty confident" in your Jed(=Snake) town read, so what do you make of SpyreX's nuke?

[Jack]

- So now you're saying that you became uncomfortable with the Bunny wagon before you unvoted? Okay, but why was this not in your unvote post then? Would it have been hard to say "I think he's town, I'm gonna look more thoroughly at it" rather than some weak placeholder vote and "I need to catch up"? Could it have been because you knew it was a mislynch, and saw that you could slip off it and it would still go through?

What do you mean "now I'm saying"? Are you really trying to act like I'm backtracking?

I was uncomfortable about nothing specific, and wasn't going to call him town until I had more. You made a big complaining post about me not giving reasons earlier, why would you see this as significant?

Multiple scumteams obviously means no one knows what's a mislynch and what isn't.

- Doesn't the existence of previews mean you'd have seen SpyreX's nuke launch when you tried to post?

I saw it after I was done writing my post. Your attempts at gotcha questions are pretty bad.

[Fate]

quote="danakillsu"] If Snake is town, SpyreX should be lynched, no questions asked.[/quote]

LOL

K.

PLEASE DON'T BURN LIST:
Auruous
Faraday
Fate
inHimshallibe VasudeVa
Jack
Kitoari
Percy
Sociopath
SpyreX


DEATH LIST:
Katsuki-uh OH FURRY MUFFIN GO BOOM BOOM
Baby Spice-probably shoulda nuked him, lynched danakillsu, but THIS IS JUST OH SO SATISFYING
bobsnox-DERPA HERPA
bunnylover-what the FUCK GET THIS CLOWN OFF MY ALIVE LIST
danakillsu-say GOODNIGHT SWEETUMS
DizzyIzzyB13 gandalf5166-trustin chesskid of all people
SnakePlissken Jed Cooper- CRISPY CRISPY GOODNESS

[inHimshallibe]

OK, so.

[AurorusVox]

Fate has been using Dana to find her "scumbuddies" (Toog, IS), neither of whom have been scum. I'm glad Fate's nuking Dana...if he'd kept Dana alive past today I'd have been thinking gambity thoughts /nuke-dance

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Multiple scumteams obviously means no one knows what's a mislynch and what isn't.

/gargantuan face-palm

Embarrassingly, I forgot this. I thought I'd caught you in a slip because I assumed there were nefarious reasons behind your unvote that were compounded by your first post today. But...since Bunny could have been the opposite scum to you, you'd have had no reason to conceal the reason for your unvote at the time, and you'd have no reason to lie about it now either.

Unvote

[inHimshallibe]

TOWN:
AurorusVox
chesskid
Fate
Percy
SocioPath
SpyreX

OK WITH:
bobsnox
DizzyIzzyB13
Faraday
Jack
Kitoari

The rest of you can die. Then we can find the other remaining scum. Probably in a global meltdown.

[Fate]

Whats wrong with Faraday and Jack?

(who I have always lumped together as players ever since PYPII interestingly enough)

Hmmmm?


SOOOO if people want :goodpostin: nukes

1. Baby needs a nuke Spice
2. bobznox
3. dizzy after catchup post well see hwo I feel
4. Re-read the game with all the active posters
5. ????
6. MYSTERY SCUM FOUNDZ

[inHimshallibe]

Both feel a little forced in my reread. Faraday's nuke of Katsuki is goodstuff, though, and keeps me optimistic. Jack in that category is a sheep. He always seems unreadable to me.

[Katsuki]

I am not getting how faraday is town in the slightest. Tunneling with no case. This nuke is ridiculous.

[inHimshallibe]

I am not getting how faraday is town in the slightest. Tunneling with no case. This nuke is ridiculous.

He's more town to me because he backed his suspicions up with his balls and nuked you.

[Jack]

I think it's likely IS was killed because someone thought he would nuke them right off the bat.

[Fate]

I am not getting how faraday is town in the slightest. Tunneling with no case. This nuke is ridiculous.

LOOKS LIKE A SCUM CLAIM TO ME.

THANKS FOR PLAYIN KATSU

[Katsuki]

NOT REALLY NICE TRY FATE.

I am not getting how faraday is town in the slightest. Tunneling with no case. This nuke is ridiculous.

He's more town to me because he backed his suspicions up with his balls and nuked you.

All he's done is call me scum and launch nuke.

[Fate]

AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE INB RESPONSE?

CLAIM?

NUKE?

SUSPECT LIST?

NOPE NOPE NOPENONONO

U SCUM

U DED

U TRYN CHECK WITH SCUMBOIS OF WHAT TO DO WIT LAST BREATH

[Katsuki]

OHO YOU SCUMZ FATE?

WHY WOULD I CLAIM/NUKE RIGHT OFF THE BAT?

HMM?

YOU SOUND LIKE OVEREAGER SCUM OVER SHOT NOT GOING TO YOUR TEAM.

[Fate]

WELL IF NOT CLAIM/NUKE YOU ARENT DOIN ANYTHING TO REFUTE FARADAYS SUSPICIONS OR MAKE ANY REAL FUCKING CONTRIBUTION TO THIS GAME.

SO YEAH.

YOU WOULD CLAIM/NUKE IF YOU WERE TOWN KNOWIN YOU WERE GOIN DOWN WITH NOTHING MORE TO OFFER

CUZ IT SURE AS HELL DOESNT LOOK LIKE FARADAYS THE TYPE TO RECALL HIS SWEET SWEET DAYKILL OF JUSTICE

[Katsuki]

WELL IF IM NOT READING FARADAY WRONG HIS SUSPICIONS ARE BASED PURELY ON THAT LIST OF MINE. WOULD HELP IF THERE WERE A CASE BUT THERE IS NONE.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD I CLAIM/NUKE IF
1. I AM NOT DEAD YET
2. IF NUKE, ONE-SHOT VENGEKILL
ESPECIALLY AS NUKE. I SURE AS FUCK WOULDN'T BE WASTING MY NUKE IF I HAD 3 DAYS TO CONSIDER MY SHOT.

YOUR TRIGGER HAPPY REFLEXIVE "PRESS RED BUTTON IMMEDIATELY IF NUKED" STATEMENT DOESN'T SEEM TOWN OF YOU AT ALL FATE.

TRANSLATION OF FATE LAST LINE: "WEEEEWOOOOOOO KEEP YOUR SHOT GOING ITS NOT GOING TO MY TEAM LOLOLOL"

[Katsuki]

Oh yeah suspects list will come after classes/re-analysis of flips.

[inHimshallibe]

Oh yeah suspects list will come after classes/

re-analysis of flips.

They all flipped town, no? Shouldn't change much...