Blackest Night Mafia (GAME OVER!)

[AlmasterGM]

A few people didn't like AGM's questions and didn't answer them, and said they didn't like them, or gave no inclination either way - null tell

How does this answer xReck's question at all? It looks like a blatant appeal to authority to me.

20. xRECKONERx - Reads make no sense (tansalas, Starbuck). Playing a lot like scum in that one other game.

How does the tansalas read make no sense? I kinda liked that case, actually.

[Vi]

@Russel

Stove

r: Why Kdub?

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I'm DONE with AlmasterGM, k.

xRx's play makes most sense for an SK.
*While npaiu is clearly in the lead for Least Helpful Player (albeit with stiff competition), since he hasn't bothered posting anything serious I don't think there's much reason to call him scummy in particular. In addition, the chance of npaiu getting lynched is low.
*Putting together a loose-to-nonexistent alliance based on out-of-game relations (which is against site rules anyway, but don't mind that) is bizarre at best. I'll believe it when I see Fate and Katsuki and so forth not only look Town, but do anything useful enough to warrant the alliance.
*Stuff like 274 doesn't actually mean anything long-term, ever. This change of opinion on dramonic gives a good example of how so.
*Aside from Fates Mafia, xRx's biggest and favorite win was in Revenge of the Crimson King, where he won as an SK and was in the running for a Scummy afterward.
*If you're still thinking "so what", consider that he's the definition of no threat to scum at this time but unlikely to ever get lynched. Guess what SK Day play is supposed to be.
*Bonus points for offering to hammer any wagon, which is ideal SK meta.
You're welcome.

This thread is noticeably missing Fate.

I actually don't hate dramonic's posting ITT, and have no idea what to make of that.

tanstalas has gone from wrong to still wrong with his setup theories.

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But he didn't say this, did he? He didn't say anything even remotely resembling this. And what town purpose would there be to lie about some ulterior motive of this nature? What town motivation is there to hide any ulterior motive?

That's correct, he said nothing of the sort. This was me trying to figure out why he chose to out himself as second-

banana

orange. Then I reread and saw that he already explained himself, so that part of the post goes right out. :\

So it comes down to
*believing his explanation
*calling him a liar for some reason
and I don't really see a reason to believe he's lying.

[Fate]

uh oh vi has noticed my noticeably lacking precense

time for excuses

another thread has made me rage so much that i cant post in here without it spilling over

and i cant let it spill it over here

the dissonance from this post alone is making my head hurt

it hurts make it stop
no you make it stop you have the power
i cant i cant i cant i cant

vi wweewew

werwerr we arre gvotingn kkkkkkdub why do u care

[Jack]

uh oh vi has noticed my noticeably lacking precense

time for excuses

another thread has made me rage so much that i cant post in here without it spilling over

and i cant let it spill it over here

the dissonance from this post alone is making my head hurt

it hurts make it stop
no you make it stop you have the power
i cant i cant i cant i cant

vi wweewew

werwerr we arre gvotingn kkkkkkdub why do u care

This looks horribly wrong.

*TAUNTS FATE LALALALALLALAA*

[Vi]

it hurts make it stop
no you make it stop you have the power
i cant i cant i cant i cant

vi wweewew

werwerr we arre gvotingn kkkkkkdub why do u care

Of all the times not to have a suitable image to spam... This will have to do.


I'm assuming "we" is referring to you and xRx?
Let me put it like this - in this game, I'm fine with anyone as long as they're voting who I want them to vote.

[xRECKONERx]

oh hey guys did u hear that

vi says im sk bc of the anticapslockalliance
and bc i made a case on a scummy player

lol yea this is totes sk behavior
vi youre about one hundred times less good at mafia than you seem to think you are

[Kdub]

tans, what do you not understand about "different evil factions"? When you voted for me, the "how does Kdub know that the scum don't know who each other are" argument was the only stated reason you gave. Now that I have pointed out that the rules clearly show that you are wrong, you are continuing to insist that I am not reading your argument properly. Here's a challenge for you: find anybody else in the game who has read special rule #1 and agrees that your "single scum team, two colors" idea is a possibility, because that was the entire basis for what you claimed was a "slip" by me.

Guderian:
The recent exchange between me and tans should be sufficient to show why I think his reason for voting me is crap he made up to justify wagoning me. I'm not particularly liking how you are trying to frame me vs. tans as "one or both of them are scum" and then sitting back and encouraging us to keep fighting. It strikes me as a very "safe" position for you to take because 1) you know you will have some support since we are already the two vote leaders, and 2) regardless of what one of us flips in the event of a lynch, it becomes easy for you to switch to the other and continue to call them scum.

My meta on Reck tells me he is probably town based on past experience. Who knows what's going on with Fate, I can never figure him out. Katsuki's play, however, is bizarre because it's completely different from what I've seen of both her town and scum play. Kat, do you really think posting in Reck/Fate-style is beneficial to achieving your win con, or are you just doing it for amusement? If it's the latter, then stop and start playing for real please.

[dramonic]

Tell me when you're done flipflopping on me Reck?

oh and btw, 1/100 of infinity is still infinity...

[xRECKONERx]

im not flipflopping on you babe
youre town unless sensfan flips scum

[xRECKONERx]

@Vi vs AGM: This debate is stupid, stop it both of you.

@Sens vs MoI: Scummalicious =D
now which is scummier, the guy who goes ''woe is me, the mod hates me and is out to smite me because he's nothing better to do'', or the one going ''Since the person you are replacing is likely to be town, and you say he chose scum and say you are town, you must be scum!''...

interesting to note
if dram is scum and thats a bigggggg if
then vi and agm are town since he ignored them completely
he chose to focus on the sens vs moi argument which means one of them is probably scum and he wants to look good should one of them get lynched
and he chose to focus on moi over sens which makes sens the more likely buddy

but once again this is all speculation based solely on the idea that sensfan is in fact scum
and there are like four people id rather lynch before sensfan so yeah

[Jack]

oh hey guys did u hear that

vi says im sk bc of the anticapslockalliance
and bc i made a case on a scummy player

lol yea this is totes sk behavior
vi youre about one hundred times less good at mafia than you seem to think you are

How do you feel about getting caught when you're mafia xreck? Do you hate it?

[xRECKONERx]

oh wait i remember why i dont like you now
lol

ps im rethinking this color claim idea and i think it might work

[Toogeloo]

@Vi - You don't like Andrius' #170, but what do you feel about the rest of his posts, the ones mostly revolving around rings and colors, like, do you feel that is scum motivated?

Can I get your own thoughts on this matter as well? Why did you feel the need to ask Vi?

I wasn't asking Vi to get affirmation of his feelings towards Andrius. I rather like Andrius as town, and wondered why the negative commentary from Vi, and to see if Vi had negative vibes of Andrius' alignment.

I really don't like Starbuck's "at least I'm posting," comment, especially considering she was called out for fluff posting, and then she posted more fluff with that tidbit at the end.

Your posts with just statements and without backing up reasoning is starting to grate on me. Why do you keep popping out these oneliners, and what is it about starbuck's comment that you dislike and seems like fluff? And is doing such a thing anti-town, or just harmless posting?

Starbuck reminds me of a bastion of town information regarding the game itself, but kind of disappears outside of that. When called out on the fluffiness of her posting, she posts another fluffy post about her life, the blackest night universe, and everything else... like she is making a next volume to the Hitchhiker's Guide. Then she simply taglines it, "At least I'm posting." I don't suppose you want to get on her case since that's just a statement as, "Unlike Vi...," difference being is that is all she is doing... it's like just enough to stay off the radar activity wise, but not really sticking her nose into anything.

I would like to kindly implore the people who seem to think posting in strange, exotic and sometimes juvenile ways to please stop. It was slightly funny, but not really. Thank You

Vagina Boob.

[xRECKONERx]

also would like to point out
i know how dramonic likes to play as scum
he likes to bus bus bus bus bus

but hes not gonna outright bus all his buddies

a little bit of meta from reckoner for ya

and starbuck is still town

[Andrius]

oh wait i remember why i dont like you now
lol

ps im rethinking this color claim idea and i think it might work

FUCK YOU RECK WE ARE NOT COLOR CLAIMING WITHOUT A GOOD FUCKING REASON.

[xRECKONERx]

k we dont hafta
but like wouldnt that make it really obv where the mafia are
even if the fakeclaims are distributed evenly theres still gonna be one color group that has a fuckload more people claiming in it than the others

[xvart]

k we dont hafta
but like wouldnt that make it really obv where the mafia are
even if the fakeclaims are distributed evenly theres still gonna be one color group that has a fuckload more people claiming in it than the others

Whoops. The mafia have fake claims?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: xRECKONERx

[dramonic]

@Color claiming:

I'm in favor of it.

Pros:
If the mafia have no fakeclaims, they'll dig themselves into a corner FAST, because if any town color only has 4 claimers all of them become confirmed.
If the mafia have fakeclaims, they'll probably be spread evenly among the colors and that gives us mini-blocks to hunt within.
If everything is split evenly, the Orange is going to stick out like a sore thumb (6-6-6-7, I WONDER why the SK is)
Limits who the scum can kill, because if a group becomes too small the mafia will stick out

Cons:
The SK has a fairly good list of where to find whatever ring he wants to get his hands on, so we'd have to off him FAST
Technically can give the scum a good list for PR hunting, though the fourth pro somewhat limits that
If the scum aren't spread equally, the SK could blend into one of the 6 groups and then we're in trooooooouble


Thought?

[xRECKONERx]

mafia obviously have fakeclaims
otherwise a mass colorclaim could break the setup

you shut your whore mouth xvart

[Jack]

That kind of thing is generally boring.

[Andrius]

I thought of that too, actually.
But this isn't Advance Wars Mafia. It won't be that easy.
Well.
If it IS spread out, then we could probably work one whole color. And if we move to "purify" one whole color we would have to be VERY careful.

And it would force all the scum and SK to SELECT a color and stick with it.

HMMM
I see the case for it, and I'm warming up to it. Slowly. Either we stop color claiming now, or we go all-out right now, D1.
Ugh.
Decsisions...

I like dram's case. UGH

DONT YOU CALL XVART A WHOER RECK.

[xRECKONERx]

dramonics list makes sense
but since hes possibly scum i have to consider there may be a scum motivation for all this

hold please

predit
ill do what i want dammit
god that was so hard to not type in all caps

[xRECKONERx]

wait weve already had color claims

i wasnt aware

who and what and when and where

isnt it obvious ive been skimming

[AlmasterGM]

also would like to point out
i know how dramonic likes to play as scum
he likes to bus bus bus bus bus

but hes not gonna outright bus all his buddies

a little bit of meta from reckoner for ya

From what I remember he also likes to lurk lurk lurk lurk lurrrrrrrk.

If the mafia have fakeclaims, they'll probably be spread evenly among the colors and that gives us mini-blocks to hunt within.

But this isn't Advance Wars Mafia. It won't be that easy.

Yeah, remember how the whole block-thing DIDN'T work?

[SensFan]

I like the idea of a mass colour popcorn claim.