Blackest Night Mafia (GAME OVER!)

[Andrius]

MoI divined my color from my baked goods.
Not that I recommend you go and FIND THEM, but I've already quasi-color claimed.

I'll read the last couple pages later on. I'm comfortable debating a mass-color claim now though.
Yeah, I know.
But RC isn't nearly as smart as you.

God, I have this desire to somehow confirm all the Greek Mythos players and become a bloc...
OH MY GOD.
I JUST REALIZED.
THIS WAS MY CHANCE.
MY CHANCE TO GET THOR AND NOT BE LYING.

[Jack]

I won't claim my colors (the second one anyway).

[Andrius]

Its ok Jack.
We all know you wanted to try and pull scum with me and Plum again.
<3

[AlmasterGM]

A reason why color claiming is BAD:

There is at least one member of each of the six factions listed besides Orange that has no abilities on its own.

Presuming this means there is a "VT" color, once somebody flips VT, scum will now know everyone who claimed that color is VT, which will make it much easier for them to hunt PRs.

[Andrius]

Yeah, I know, AGM. -.-;

[Jack]

A reason why color claiming is BAD:

There is at least one member of each of the six factions listed besides Orange that has no abilities on its own.

Presuming this means there is a "VT" color, once somebody flips VT, scum will now know everyone who claimed that color is VT, which will make it much easier for them to hunt PRs.

Doesn't that just mean orange is sk and thus not vt?

[Toogeloo]

I read it as, there is one VT in each color faction.

[Toogeloo]

EBWOP: At least one VT in each color.

[tanstalas]

A reason why color claiming is BAD:

There is at least one member of each of the six factions listed besides Orange that has no abilities on its own.

Presuming this means there is a "VT" color, once somebody flips VT, scum will now know everyone who claimed that color is VT, which will make it much easier for them to hunt PRs.

I read that a little different than you. I read that as there is at least one VT in each of the 6 factions. So at least 6 VT's in the game, with there being at least one VT in each faction, possibly more. Not that there is a whole faction full of VT's

NINJAD!

[Plum]

A reason why color claiming is BAD:

There is at least one member of each of the six factions listed besides Orange that has no abilities on its own.

Presuming this means there is a "VT" color, once somebody flips VT, scum will now know everyone who claimed that color is VT, which will make it much easier for them to hunt PRs.

Whaaaat? I'm missing something. In each color block there is at least one VT. If we have a bloc of claimed Green players, say, and one Green claimer flips VT, then the others could still be VTs, just at least one is some sort of PR, and there may be multiple PRs per color bloc. So what info does scum gain from one color's VT flip?

NINJA'D

Whatever.

[AlmasterGM]

Derrrp ... I read it as, "There is one faction comprised of all VTs."

Nevermind.

Carry on.

[Guderian]

Whoops, that's supposed to be:
Game Name= Blackest Night Mafia
Flavor Text= Based on the DC Comics series, this game will reenact the War of the Lanterns. Each player will be able to choose which corps he wants to fight for, and each corps except for Orange

will have two power roles and two vanilla townies.

This game will have two scum factions and one serial killer.

Here was what I was talking about tans, (about four each color) and it seems to also be relevant to our 'mass color-claim' discussion here.

[AlmasterGM]

and god it's like everybody corrected me at once.

[Andrius]

Massive number of ninjas. lol

I'm debating it. Still leaning no, since we'd need to be able to PULL IT OFF.

[xRECKONERx]

ive yet to see a real downside to mass color claiming
though i have to imagine dana and reaper put some kind of failsafe in place for this kinda thing


wifom wifom wifom wifom
aruguuhhhgh

scum must have some countermeasure to it
thats it im against it
fuck it
lets do some old fashioned scumhunting instead

[Jack]

Lynch list:
spyrex
xreck

[AlmasterGM]

yo sensfan do you have anything to add that does not relate to the setup and/or stuff about colors?

[Toogeloo]

Still leaning no, since we'd need to be able to PULL IT OFF.

What are we talking about here, Ocean's 20 or the Great Train Robbery?

I don't even mind saying both my choices and my final color when/if we do this.

[Andrius]

Still leaning no, since we'd need to be able to PULL IT OFF.

What are we talking about here, Ocean's 20 or the Great Train Robbery?

I don't even mind saying both my choices and my final color when/if we do this.

If I minded claiming, I wouldn't have crumbed.

Ocean's 20 Great Train Robberies, Toog. Twenty. Robberies. On trains.

[tanstalas]

Whoops, that's supposed to be:
Game Name= Blackest Night Mafia
Flavor Text= Based on the DC Comics series, this game will reenact the War of the Lanterns. Each player will be able to choose which corps he wants to fight for, and each corps except for Orange

will have two power roles and two vanilla townies.

This game will have two scum factions and one serial killer.

Here was what I was talking about tans, (about four each color) and it seems to also be relevant to our 'mass color-claim' discussion here.

Did not see him say that, where did he say this? I do not see it in this thread or in the signup thread. The latest news is that there is at least one vanilla role so I am assuming he said this in the thread where you pitch your idea for a game? If so either some things in the dynamics of the game changed between pitching the game or dana didn't think anyone would see this post and thought he could just tell us at least one VT role is in each group.

Anyhow, if there are 8 scum then that killed my possible scum can talk to each other over various factions theory since that would be way too many scum that could collude together.

@Kdub - Were you aware of this post made by Dana where he explicitly said there would be 4 people per faction?

[AlmasterGM]

@tanstalas - Please answer post 275, thanks.

[xvart]

So it comes down to
*believing his explanation
*calling him a liar for some reason
and I don't really see a reason to believe he's lying.

So you believe his explanation despite his knowledge/experience of draft variant/alignment selection and subsequent refusal to answer direct questions about his explanation? Interesting, seeing as you were the co-mod of Pledge of Allegiance with him, I'm having a difficult time swallowing your belief of his explanation that he would think it would even be remotely possible to get a SK as his second pick.

mafia obviously have fakeclaims
otherwise a mass colorclaim could break the setup

you shut your whore mouth xvart

I guess since the number of people have posted and not thought this was a scumslip maybe so, but humor me: how would a mass color claim break the game without fakeclaims?

Regardless of whether or not your definitive knowledge that scum have fake claims is a legitimate setup observation or not, you are still scum, detailed below. I'm going to go back and look at you in relation to SpyreX to see if you two might be on the same team or if one of you will provide more knowledge of the others alignment as a scum pair.

UNVOTE:

lets do some old fashioned scumhunting instead

I guess you haven't noticed but some of us have been doing that all game.

While were on the subject of Reck... I find it really interesting that he has so many conditional reads based on SensFan flipping scum:

scummy players include
guderian
sensfan
kdub

note to self
if sens flips scum dram is his buddy

im not flipflopping on you babe
youre town unless sensfan flips scum

interesting to note
if dram is scum and thats a bigggggg if
then vi and agm are town since he ignored them completely
he chose to focus on the sens vs moi argument which means one of them is probably scum and he wants to look good should one of them get lynched
and he chose to focus on moi over sens which makes sens the more likely buddy

but once again this is all speculation based solely on the idea that sensfan is in fact scum
and there are like four people id rather lynch before sensfan so yeah

First of all, you essentially did flip flop on dramatic based on SensFan flipping scum. You said SensFan was scummy, you said dram was scummy if Sens flipped scum, then said dram is town unless sens flips scum. Sounds pretty definitive to me that you think SensFan is scum and dramatic is his buddy except you later say if dram is scum (a bigggggg if). Does not compute with your SensFan read. And why are so many people above SensFan on your lynch list if you think he is scum and you get the bonus of all your conditional reads pending his flip?

And what is the point of the following comment when, at the point of this post, dram has barely made any comments about anyone being scum?

also would like to point out
i know how dramonic likes to play as scum
he likes to bus bus bus bus bus

but hes not gonna outright bus all his buddies

a little bit of meta from reckoner for ya

and starbuck is still town

SpyreX and Reckoner are two good lynches today. I'll be back with a vote on one of them later after I do some more reading.

[tanstalas]

@tanstalas - Please answer post 275, thanks.

I'm confused. Reck's question was directed at NPIAU. I didn't answer it because it was directed at NPIAU. I gave my thoughts on his question to him as Reck asked me my thoughts on NPIAU, I didn't feel that his not liking your questions had no bearing on if he is scum or not, hence why I said null tell.

[AlmasterGM]

wait. wut.

then why are you answering for nopoint?

[tanstalas]

wait. wut.

then why are you answering for nopoint?

I wasn't I was commenting on each of the points that Reck raised in regards to him thinking nopoint was scum, go back and re-read the post, I made a comment on every comment he made a comment on. I guess you could say I was answering for him, though that was not my intent.