Blackest Night Mafia (GAME OVER!)

[Vi]

So you believe his explanation despite his knowledge/experience of draft variant/alignment selection and subsequent refusal to answer direct questions about his explanation? Interesting, seeing as you were the co-mod of Pledge of Allegiance with him, I'm having a difficult time swallowing your belief of his explanation that he would think it would even be remotely possible to get a SK as his second pick.

I'm the one who brought up pick-your-alignment games in the first place, and that's because I remember random useless things. It would not surprise me if SpyreX didn't think of it until I mentioned it.

Mass color claim might be interesting but given that RC was telling people not to claim, I suspect some form of punishing mechanic to be involved. Day 1, it's probably not worth it.

Why did Plum just show up and say nothing scumhunting-related?

Does anyone have any alignment-preference meta on Kdub at all?

[SpyreX]

(I hate not being able to use caps assume the rest until otherwise is in caps because jesus)

What part of anything have I not directly answered?

Because, follow me here, not liking my rationale doesn't change the fact that it

is

my rationale and no amount of reasking the same stupid question over and over again is going to get a different one. Good lord.

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That said:

I'm fairly confident there is at least one scum in the three amigos (Xvart, Jack, KK).

Why, you may ask?

Well, see, we've had an interesting study here hiding and no one has commented on it:

I submitted Red/Orange (so the mods knew I wanted to be Scum, even if my choices didn't count.) SSBF submitted Yellow/Orange. I was given a Town role.

Now, see, if it were actually

town

playing up this "why would you ever not pick two town colors omg sk blah blah" then I'd sure as hell have expected even a peep about the fact Sens did the

exact same thing

.

But, there hasn't been. Why?

Gee thats a mystery.

As for tans, what I saw that no one even asked about:

Yeah, based on your 1st post I think you probably drew a VT role or a regular goon role Sensfan, however since I do not have much to go on, I forgot that Andrius wanted purple, and since Red is one of the primary colors used for making purple there is a 50/50 chance that Andrius picked Red Scum, and hence, is our best lynch for now.

Now, aside from the raw madness in Red makes Purple thus Andrius is scum which is amazing there is the simple fact he went "welp, you're a VT or scum" based on more of that amazing madness - and then never followed up what would be an actual good avenue if he actually believed it.

So, as it sits I'm down with and of the amigos or tans.

I'd be down for the color claim if there's not something that breaks it (I thought Andrius had something but I guess not?)

[Andrius]

(I thought Andrius had something but I guess not?)

Don't be too sure of it yet.
I'm working on it, Spy. ^^;

[dramonic]

Mass color claim might be interesting but given that RC was telling people not to claim, I suspect some form of punishing mechanic to be involved. Day 1, it's probably not worth it.

Was he? I might've missed that.

[Toogeloo]

I must have missed RC threatening us against Mass Color Claiming.

[SpyreX]

Well that answers that.

Hows about even pretending to read my words ohh posters.

[tanstalas]

Now, aside from the raw madness in Red makes Purple thus Andrius is scum which is amazing there is the simple fact he went "welp, you're a VT or scum" based on more of that amazing madness - and then never followed up what would be an actual good avenue if he actually believed it.

At that point I thought he did get a VT role or a goon role, but nothing he said at that point screamed scum to me. The only thing that I didn't like was his 'random kills are good for town' for a justification for a N0 kill, but that's his opinion and a null tell IMO. As the game progressed and he raged about wanting a scum role and got a town role instead I figured he had a VT role. As well, I was figuring he would have been vigged if he kept up his bitching (as it really was getting annoying), then again maybe we don't even have a vig, or maybe he is a night vig *shrug*

Also, you may have noticed, I have been preoccupied these last few pages trying to pull my bacon out of the fire?

So, as it sits I'm down with and of the amigos or tans.

Again, in English this time please? Really do not know what you are saying here.

[SpyreX]

Defense is never an excuse for the absence of offense.

And my second statement is I am pro lynching (Jack, KK, Xvart, (any I missed that pulled that same stunt)) + you.

[dramonic]

Well that answers that.

Hows about even pretending to read my words ohh posters.

Who would this be adressed at?

[SensFan]

Replace 'and' with 'any', and it makes perfect sense, tans.

Also, your crackpot theory about the Scum being one team was retarded even before people brought up the fact that the mods said each colour has four people.

[SpyreX]

God I didn't see that typo twice, but yea.

@Dram: Everyone. Those are important words.

[Andrius]

I must have missed RC threatening us against Mass Color Claiming.

Can we get a definite quote from him saying this?
That'd be great.


Agree that a good defense is no excuse for ZERO offense.

[Toogeloo]

Speaking of zero offense... would anyone mind terribly if I day vig'd Dekes, the useless pile of slug dung?

[dramonic]

@SpyreX: ...Unprompted reaction much?

Hey reck, I interacted with SpyreX. What does that make him?

@Toogeloo: Reason for shooting him being what, that the game's been open 48 hours and he hasn't posted content?

[Andrius]

Toog, how about Kast? He hasn't posted at all.

[Toogeloo]

Toog, how about Kast? He hasn't posted at all.

Man, I didn't even notice him. I was just going through the ISOs.

[SpyreX]

Don't toy with a mans feelings about dayvigs (I.E. if he's been active on site at all, do it).

What the hell do you mean unprompted reaction about what?

[Fate]

dekes is in this game

wait what katsuki is iin tshi game

wow and here i thought i was avoiding this thread hardcore

[xvart]

What part of anything have I not directly answered?

Let us see. You said one of the bonuses of picking SK second was that you would know if there was a SK or not. The direct questions are bolded, but the other questions in these quotes would be great if answered as well:

I actually missed your post but it doesn't matter because the post of yours to which you are referring makes no sense and I mentioned things that were outside the context of your post, namely, as the co mod of pledge of allegiance did you really think that nobody in a pool of 25 people would pick SK as their number one pick (since 7 people picked independent in PoA)? And, regardless of the fact that there is going to be a serial killer no matter what and what has been already said in subsequent posts,

how does you getting your first pick mean you know for certain that there would be serial killer?

Again, based on your experience co modding a alignment selection game did you think nobody would pick third party?

And again, how does you getting your first draft pick ensure you would know if there was a serial killer or not?

I cannot possibly think of another draft variant where this would be applicable but I am willing to be proven wrong.

Additionally to note that other people may not have directly asked you to explain this but others have commented on it, too.

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Now, see, if it were actually

town

playing up this "why would you ever not pick two town colors omg sk blah blah" then I'd sure as hell have expected even a peep about the fact Sens did the

exact same thing

.

But, there hasn't been. Why?

Gee thats a mystery.

Ahhh... nice try. It's not really a mystery at all. The whole point about you specifically was because of your experience with draft variants and modding alignment selection games. I've made that abundantly clear (as minimally displayed in the quotes above). I don't think SSBF has your experience with these games and I know he wasn't in Pledge of Allegiance. The difference in reasons why you might pick Orange second and why SSBF might pick Orange second are profound, as should be obvious by now. Plus your reluctance to discuss the matter hasn't helped your case at all.

[Andrius]

Toog, how about Kast? He hasn't posted at all.

Man, I didn't even notice him. I was just going through the ISOs.

Kast is V/LA until 1/10, IIRC.

/in but won't be very active until 10th of Jan.

[Jack]

"The role you love receiving"

Dayvig. Someday, I will have the power and rule with an iron fist.

Of love

ATM- not scum or 3rd party.

Something I've never been is always fun.

Mason and vengeful townie are my favorites.

VT or Vig. Generally dislike scum. Third party has some but not all of the stress of being Mafia and is overall pretty fun as well.

+1

Also +1 to new avatar.

I'd love to be a Serial Killer Vig or Cop again.

PoA player list

Night 1: xvart the Speaker of the House part of the Legislature was talked to death (OTHER)
Night 2: Jack, Grassroots Organizer, the Vanilla Townie was talked to death. (TOWN)
Night 5: Plum, Contractor, the Town Universal Backup took 9999 damage. (TOWN)

Wiki pages

*banner that says he prefers vigilante*

I prefer scum, as I can control the flow of the game more.

Andrius greatly enjoys having another player to bounce ideas off of, and generally likes the concept of hydras, though what he really supports is Neighbors and Masons, which are his favorite role. After all, nothing is quite as cool as having another player as confirmed town to talk to (and rant about all the crap going on in-thread).

"Scum vs Town"

I learn, in my scumgames, that I play anti-town SHITTY.
So, I choose town whenever possible (Comedy of Whims).

I learn that I play better when I don't spam the threads, and I just post once a day, in incredibly active games.

Scum is fun, yes, but stressful as hell.

"GTKAS--MagnaOfIllusion"

Favorite PR – Tough question. I prefer complex roles or roles that are challenging to play. If I had to pick a vanilla role that I liked best I would probably say Serial Killer.

My favorite role of all-time (and this is over about 70 forums games here and on another site) is the following –

Paparrazi – A Town Modified Cop role. Each night I could take a picture of any player I chose. If successful that picture goes into my stock of blackmail material. The pictures had two uses. First at any time during the day I could PM the Mod and ‘blackmail’ any player I chose. I would lose that picture from my stock and take hidden control of their vote for the rest of the day phase (changes made via PM). Second if I was ever Nightkilled the Mod would publicly confirm, at the start of the next Day phase, if any of the players who I had remaining photos of in my stock were Mafia.

"GTKAS--Starbuck"

3. I prefer being scum because I always seem to pull the role of Vanilla Townie when I'm town and apparently I have a scummy town meta.

Comedy of Whims player list (which I gather was choose your side?)

AlmasterGM, God, Third Party, fulfilled his win condition and won the game, along with Andrius.
Andrius, Stephen Gevanni, Third Party, fulfilled his win condition and won the game, along with AlmasterGM.
MagnaofIllusion, Randall "Pink" Floyd, Third Party, was shot in the head on Night 1.
Super Smash Bros. Fan, Mega Man, Town, was damned to hell in the endgame.

That took too long.

Starbuck quote makes her a good lynch.
I wish AGar wasn't in a hydra...but still.

[Jack]

Speaking of zero offense... would anyone mind terribly if I day vig'd Dekes, the useless pile of slug dung?

Save it for someone scummy if you have one.

[SpyreX]

(There is no difference in the "Why would you pick two different alignment colors if you wanted X).

Like I said, I didn't think about it much. I went "Town is awesome, SK might be fun, and if I get town then there's probably an SK because setting up a with first and seconds means that if anyone requested it, even as a second, they'd place it"

That doesn't change not a whit at none of you mentioning Sens.

That doesn't change that, ultimately, this is either you believe me or you don't and repeatedly asking the same shit wont change that one bit.

(and Jack's preview post makes me think of the three he's probably the towniest of the bunch)

[dramonic]

why Dekes above Stepho, Kagelord, NPIAU, if you were going by ISO?

@SpyreX: No one was adressing you at that point in time, it just seems very misplaced.

@Jack: And your point with this is...?

[SpyreX]

I mentioned way before I was waiting for something and three biting was enough.