DEFCON Mafia 2.0 - Over, American Victory!

[SpyreX]

Huh, I forgot kit was in this game.

Nukes there fine.

[bobsnox]

Katsuki needs to die. I went from being vote-worthy to not even on his lists.

[Faraday]

and there will be much rejoicing when katsuki dies, much rejoicing.

I'll have content later mebbe, going shopping today.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Toogeloo (11)

-

Fate

, Jack,

SocioPath

, gandalf5166, Baby Spice, Katsuki,

SpyreX

, chesskid3,

AurorusVox

, SnakePlissken,

danakillsu

bunnylover (10)

-

Fate

,

SocioPath

,

AurorusVox

,

Internet Stranger

,

danakillsu

, inHimshallibe,

SpyreX

, bobsnox, Kitoari, Faraday

I think everyone should rank AurorusVox, danakillsu, Fate, SocioPath and SpyreX in order of scumminess.

[SnakePlissken]

Fate, SpyreX, SocioPath, danakillsu and AurorusVox.

[inHimshallibe]

Scummiest
danakillsu
AurorusVox
SocioPath
Fate
SpyreX
Towniest

[danakillsu]

dana, what I dislike most about your play...actually, no, that's not true. ONE THING I dislike about your play is that you're playing the "You suckers will be sorry, go ahead, lynch me, you idiots, I don't care, etc." card, when you were the one who used your ability to keep yourself alive. So here's what I want to know. If your lynch is so inevitable, then what exactly were the protown benefits of not letting yourself be nuked? You didn't fuck over Fate; you fucked over the entire town. Now we have to waste a lynch on you and lose one more chance to narrow the suspect pool. I see much more scum motivation than town motivation for your action.

I was not aware that Fate would so easily deceive the players when I said there was a pro-town motivation for stopping his nuke (which, by the way, I did not KNOW I was doing when I AC'd him). If people are just going to sheep him, it's pretty hopeless, because I can't even defend against that, but if it turns out that he can't do that with enough players, then the AC ended up being useful to the town. But I certainly see your point. The problem is that all this point could ever prove is that the AC was detrimental to the town, which is something that I would not have known when trying to get it, so that doesn't prove anything about my alignment.

[Jack]

AurorusVox, Sociopath, Spyrex, dana, fate

Also that thing Mina said to dana is pretty bad and scummy.

[inHimshallibe]

Rereading RC, it seems like an odd kill. Didn't get many PR vibes from him, and he never pushed extremely hard. Voted Snake, but Snake is scum anyways.

[AurorusVox]

:::Scummiest:::
Dana
sociopath
Fate
SpyreX
:::towniest:::

Dizzy, I would point out that your question fails to take into account that Toog

claimed scum

.
Dana, don't feel like participating?

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I think knowing InHim's alignment will be useful; if the nuke on Fate fails and inhim flips scum, we know Fate is likely scum. Either we go cautious, recall the nuke, and hope that we can successfully Espionage him.* (

Preferably

this option. I'll explain why in the alternative...)

...Or we just let him get nuked and risk losing a town-doctor. Now he's outed he's pretty screwed anyway, but letting scum kill him would work out better for us, I think, as there are two scum teams, and both might target him, which lowers the NKs. AND he'd get another protect off. Granted, he could still get roleblocked, but even this forces scum to decide whether to direct their attention at him or not. Espionage will help out in the event of neither scumteam killing him and ease the WIFOMspiral.

*Sociopath would obviously have to agree.

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The fact there are three dropped quotes make it look like that could have been spammed which might imply they're fabricated to frame someone (or all people) who is (are) getting nuked. If we're treating them seriously, I think that they could be worked to apply to anyone who's getting nuked :\

[inHimshallibe]

LOLOL @ WASTING AN ESPIONAGE ON THE CLAIMED DOC

VOTE: AURORUSVOX

[AurorusVox]

When the alternative is

nuking

the claimed doc, you think it's a waste?

Also, espionage tells you alignment, not role. Herpaderpa. Or are you suggesting you can't be scum?

[inHimshallibe]

When the alternative is

nuking

the claimed doc, you think it's a waste?

Also, espionage tells you alignment, not role. Herpaderpa. Or are you suggesting you can't be scum?

OH, SUGGESTING ALTERNATIVES. Like... recalling the nuke and letting the Communists do the work for themselves, not the other way around. And if you haven't noticed, it would take TWO NIGHTS to fully clear me. Which will be WASTED as soon as I am killed.

I don't WANT to die by nuke today, but I will not put up with this trying to be helpful BULLSHIT such as using ESPIONAGE on the CLAIMED BATTLESHIP.

[Fate]

AV's PR direction is HELLA-bad. So is his "keep nuking the doc because if Inhimn is scum so is Fate" wait. WHAT?

ALSO the fact that he says "or he could be roleblocked" HEY THE ROLEBLOCKER IS OUTED AND CLAIMED (and scum) ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION?

WAY TO SHIT ALL OVER YOUR SLIGHT TOWN READ AV.

I mean SERIOUSLY he goes in the SAME POST from "We can Espionage the claim doc TEHEHEHEHEEEE" to "Well he'll absorb Nightkills for us like a trooper YAYAYYA"

WHAT THE FUCK?

AV+DANA.

WHO HAS MORE VOTES AGM SHOW ME THE BIG FUCKIN BOARD?

[Fate]

Toogeloo (11)

-

Fate

, Jack,

SocioPath

, gandalf5166, Baby Spice, Katsuki,

SpyreX

, chesskid3,

AurorusVox

, SnakePlissken,

danakillsu

bunnylover (10)

-

Fate

,

SocioPath

,

AurorusVox

,

Internet Stranger

,

danakillsu

, inHimshallibe,

SpyreX

, bobsnox, Kitoari, Faraday

I think everyone should rank AurorusVox, danakillsu, Fate, SocioPath and SpyreX in order of scumminess.

I think Dizzy should catch up on the fucking thread because her slot has done sweet fuck all and this pretend VC analysis isn't anything insightful.

[Fate]

Scummiest
danakillsu
AurorusVox
SocioPath
Fate
SpyreX
Towniest

I dun get it. If SpyreX is townier than me why did you BATTLESHIPS me?

[danakillsu]

Dana, don't feel like participating?

Uhhh...what? Oh, are you talking about the list thing?

Scummiest
Fate
SocioPath
AurorusVox
SpyreX
Towniest

[chesskid3]

Toogeloo (11)

-

Fate

, Jack,

SocioPath

, gandalf5166, Baby Spice, Katsuki,

SpyreX

, chesskid3,

AurorusVox

, SnakePlissken,

danakillsu

bunnylover (10)

-

Fate

,

SocioPath

,

AurorusVox

,

Internet Stranger

,

danakillsu

, inHimshallibe,

SpyreX

, bobsnox, Kitoari, Faraday

I think everyone should rank AurorusVox, danakillsu, Fate, SocioPath and SpyreX in order of scumminess.

This is a ridiculous question designed to create the result of OH HEY 5 SCUMMY PEOPLE LET'S ALL GET DIVERTED BY THIS AND FORGET THAT DIZZY DIES TODAY :/

die goddamnit die

[AurorusVox]

AV's PR direction is HELLA-bad. So is his "keep nuking the doc because if Inhimn is scum so is Fate" wait. WHAT?

I said I'd rather we didn't keep nuking him. But if he has to go and flips scum, why would he protect a non-buddy?

ALSO the fact that he says "or he could be roleblocked" HEY THE ROLEBLOCKER IS OUTED AND CLAIMED (and scum) ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION?

That was a necessary evil of my post.

I mean SERIOUSLY he goes in the SAME POST from "We can Espionage the claim doc TEHEHEHEHEEEE" to "Well he'll absorb Nightkills for us like a trooper YAYAYYA"

They're in the same post because IF he doesn't get NK'd, THEN the Espionage helps sort through the wifom rubble.

[inHimshallibe]

Scummiest
danakillsu
AurorusVox
SocioPath
Fate
SpyreX
Towniest

I dun get it. If SpyreX is townier than me why did you BATTLESHIPS me?

I already explained this. You were the most likely to get OMGUSNUKED.

[AurorusVox]

OH, SUGGESTING ALTERNATIVES. Like... recalling the nuke and letting the Communists do the work for themselves, not the other way around.

How's that going for you at the moment?

And if you haven't noticed, it would take TWO NIGHTS to fully clear me. Which will be WASTED as soon as I am killed.

I don't WANT to die by nuke today, but I will not put up with this trying to be helpful BULLSHIT such as using ESPIONAGE on the CLAIMED BATTLESHIP.

Having you outed (and assuming town) poses a risk for scum; they might double up on kills (good for town) or both risk not killing you (good for town). Yes in the former case the (one night of) espionage is wasted. In the latter, though, there's a chance you're still alive and scum, so a check on you would be useful (and maybe even successful).

[Fate]

Fair enough Inhim, I was just testing your for consistency.

That was a necessary evil of my post.

That's my whole POINT. Your entire post is just a bunch of "saying things that could be" aka Inhim COULD be scum and therefore Fate is scum and we COULD Cop and we BLAH BLHAA BLAH.

HAVE YOU EVEN POSTED YOUR FUCKIN READS, AKA WHO YOU THINK IS SCUM? WHETHER YOU

THINK

INHIM IS SCUM AND SHOULD BE RECALLED OR NOT?

NO. YOUVE BEEN SITTING IN NEUTRAL LAND FOR AS LONG AS I FUCKIN REMEMBER AND I THOUGHT IT WAS BECAUSEYOU WERE GATHERING YOUR READS LIKE A SLOWSLOW[DACTED] BUT NO. THIS HAS GONE ON FOR THREE DAYS.

They're in the same post because IF he doesn't get NK'd, THEN the Espionage helps sort through the wifom rubble.

HORESSHIT. SHOW HOW.

Inhim was dead the moment he claimed, what rubble is there? The only thing I SEEE is that nuking him will save the scum a nightkill, and trust me-being in a game with two scumteams and an outed doc its a nice lil wifom game of "the other team will kill the doc? right?-so this nuke is just getting more AND MORE ANTI-TOWN BY THE MINUTE.

[inHimshallibe]

OH, SUGGESTING ALTERNATIVES. Like... recalling the nuke and letting the Communists do the work for themselves, not the other way around.

How's that going for you at the moment?

I don't WANT to die by nuke today, but I will not put up with this trying to be helpful BULLSHIT such as using ESPIONAGE on the CLAIMED BATTLESHIP.

Please try to take my posts in full context, kthxbye.

[Jack]

Praise the lord. An AV lynch actually looks possible.

[AurorusVox]

That was a necessary evil of my post.

That's my whole POINT. Your entire post is just a bunch of "saying things that could be" aka Inhim COULD be scum and therefore Fate is scum and we COULD Cop and we BLAH BLHAA BLAH.

That wasn't what I meant. My post is more than that. /sigh I don't expect you to read it properly, though.

HAVE YOU EVEN POSTED YOUR FUCKIN READS, AKA WHO YOU THINK IS SCUM? WHETHER YOU

THINK

INHIM IS SCUM AND SHOULD BE RECALLED OR NOT?

I'm apathetic towards inHim. If he hadn't claimed Doc I probably wouldn't have cared about him getting nuked. But I think he's more useful alive at this moment.

NO. YOUVE BEEN SITTING IN NEUTRAL LAND FOR AS LONG AS I FUCKIN REMEMBER AND I THOUGHT IT WAS BECAUSEYOU WERE GATHERING YOUR READS LIKE A SLOWSLOW[DACTED] BUT NO. THIS HAS GONE ON FOR THREE DAYS.

I am gathering reads. Just because I don't shout about it as much as you doesn't mean its not happening. I think Jed/Snake is scum. I have suspicions about Jack. I think Dana needs to die. But with all these nukes I think it'll be better to wait and see what their outcome is before ramping up a wagon.

They're in the same post because IF he doesn't get NK'd, THEN the Espionage helps sort through the wifom rubble.

HORESSHIT. SHOW HOW.

Inhim was dead the moment he claimed, what rubble is there? The only thing I SEEE is that nuking him will save the scum a nightkill, and trust me-being in a game with two scumteams and an outed doc its a nice lil wifom game of "the other team will kill the doc? right?-so this nuke is just getting more AND MORE ANTI-TOWN BY THE MINUTE.

^THAT IS MY POINT. Leave him alive.

BUT if he's still alive tomorrow, that means either BOTH scumteams backed out OR only one ever had the choice of killing him in the first place. Then we get into a case of "did both back down or is he scum hmm." That's when the check becomes useful. Don't forget it has a 50% chance of working correctly the first time.

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@inHim, I took it in context. More context than you, in fact. You said you'd rather not get nuked. Your plan to not getting nuked is having the nuke recalled...by SP having some magical epiphany and change of heart? You've tried asking, and what exactly is the context of how

that's

turned out? Do you think that's changing?