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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:27 am

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Zang wrote:Votecount-

Chronopie - 3 - (InHimshallibe, StrangerCoug, Purple Orange) (L-4)
InHimshallibe - 1 - (AntB) (L-6)
CooLDoG - 1 - (Chronopie) (L-6)
AntB - 4 - (EtherealCookie, rajrhcpfreak, CooLDoG, lewarcher82) (L-3)
StrangerCoug - 3 - (Battousai, Magua, Thestatusquo) (L-4)

7 needed to lynch

Deadline is January 4 at 3:15 pm EST
yabbaguys vote is missing (L-2), SC changed vote (L-1) then inHim hammered.
@Mod Can we get a triple check on this?


Either way I'm lynchbait after that cock-up. Noone seems keen to answer the top scumspect after my flip question either.... I stand by inHim, rajchp and possible SC.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:30 am

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If you flip town, probably Purple Orange. If you flip scum, ESPECIALLY Purple Orange.

No reason not to hammer. To switch votes like he did though is mind-bogglingly scum.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:31 am

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EBWODP:
Zang wrote:Votecount-

Chronopie - 4 - (StrangerCoug, Purple Orange, AntB, InHimshallibe) (L-3)
CooLDoG - 1 - (Chronopie) (L-6)
AntB - 5 - (CooLDoG, rajrhcpfreak, yabbaguy, EtherealCookie, lewarcher82) (L-2)
StrangerCoug - 2 - (Magua, Battousai) (L-5)

7 needed to lynch

Deadline is January 4 at 3:15 pm EST
No idea where I got that last votecount from... nothing like a comedy of errors ¬_¬ but yea this was the last count given and I was L-2, 2 more votes were placed. now dead and staying that way.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:36 am

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btw: who replace Ethereal? Why is he still in the VC? Are we hammering with the vote of someone who replaced out????????
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:20 am

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AntB wrote:Thought I would've been hammered by now...

claming Quiznos was a genuine mistake, that's what I had written in my notes... defiantly seen it too many times...

Surprised Purple didn't lay the hammer down... No objection to my lynch, I'm L-1, yet no hammer... anyone else thinks its weird? push it D2. There's no more time to debate and a mislynch is better then no-lynch for the information provided from the flip...
Um...because I'm pretty much the newbiest player here, I'm not sure whether it's better to let the day continue another 24 hours, or hammer you now, and I'd rather people with more experience than me make that call.

And you guys seriously need to read the OP. Rule 8 says that you die anyway, hammer or no hammer, because you have the majority of the votes.

If it's generally agreed wisdom that killing you right now is better than playing the day out, I will be happy to hammer.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:22 am

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Not majority - plurality. Wrong word there. "You have the most votes, there is no tie."
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:36 am

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Purple Orange wrote: Um...because I'm pretty much the newbiest player here, I'm not sure whether it's better to let the day continue another 24 hours, or hammer you now, and I'd rather people with more experience than me make that call.
well, it looks like you are asking someone else to make a choice you should make by yourself... which is scummy, because it seems you are looking for the help of your scumbuddies...

regarding the OP, if not everyone was replaced, it would be weird if the mod decided to let the day finish with the lynch of a player voted by someone who replaced out... now, I have a lot of stuff to do and I may have missed something, but was EtherealCookie replaced or not? If yes, why is he still in the VCs? If not, how could his vote be valid to lynch someone?
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:53 am

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lew wrote:well, it looks like you are asking someone else to make a choice you should make by yourself... which is scummy, because it seems you are looking for the help of your scumbuddies...
It
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honestly an "ack, is a hammer bad or not?" thing for me (plus still seeing SC as most suspicious at that moment), but I can see your point.
inHimshallibe wrote:If you flip town, probably Purple Orange. If you flip scum, ESPECIALLY Purple Orange.

No reason not to hammer. To switch votes like he did though is mind-bogglingly scum.
I'll be happy to argue Day 2 with you about this, assuming we're both alive. :/ Reason I didn't hammer is mostly the above. Also, order of suspicion probably should have gone AntB > SC after the Quizno mess-up claim, but my brain was still recalibrating from having AntB down in 4th place as "don't lynch today," and my change of position on him was based on 417 and my re-ISO. Claim-switch came up after that, caught me off-guard, and I wasn't quite sure WHAT to make of it (first reaction was certainly "WTF SCUM," but VT claim wouldn't save anyone at this point if they were scum, and I didn't see any conceivable scum benefit to the claim whatsoever).

I know my reasoning looks like crud, but that was my thought-process at the time as best I can clarify it.

Also missed the fact you'd already hammered him, which makes the stuff about hammering worthless, unless we're not counting EC's vote.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:59 am

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In the event EC's vote doesn't count (the mod is looking for a replacement for him), yeah.

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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:03 am

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Purple Orange wrote:In the event EC's vote doesn't count (the mod is looking for a replacement for him), yeah.

Vote: AntB
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:49 am

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Regardless of AntB's flip, StrangerCoug is scum.

If AntB flips scum, I'd look to lewarcher as another scumbuddy.
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:28 am

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magua wrote: If AntB flips scum, I'd look to lewarcher as another scumbuddy.
Be my guest (but I really don't see the reason for this: I voted Ant very early in game and I am still voting him). However, I will regard you and Battou as possible scumbuddies, if Ant flips scum. Tomorrow will be a funny day.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:29 am

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Purple Orange wrote:
@ Mod: could you please list votes in the order cast?
I would but I use a program for the votecount and it places votes in a random order.
 
lewarcher82 wrote:
mod: not knowing if we will or will not get an extension is making it very hard to proceed
Deadline would have been extended if someone replaced in closer to deadline. Normally, I would have extended it anyway but it was already extended.

AntB wrote:
@Mod Can we get a triple check on this
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The page 18 Votecount had yabbaguy's vote and was before StrangerCoug's vote.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:30 am

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Votecount-

Chronopie - 1 - (AntB) (L-6)
CooLDoG - 1 - (Chronopie) (L-6)
AntB - 7 - (InHimshallibe, yabbaguy, rajrhcpfreak, CooLDoG, EtherealCookie, StrangerCoug, lewarcher82) (L-0)
StrangerCoug - 3 - (Purple Orange, Magua, Battousai) (L-4)


You decide to lynch AntB. A rope is made out of paper bags and napkins and you hang him from the golden arches. After he dies you notice something wierd, his corpse smells like hot sauce.

AntB, Del Taco, Vannila Townie was lynched.



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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:31 am

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As day begins, you notice the corpse of Ethereal Cookie on the ground holding a hamburger. He also has a wound near the heart.

Ethereal Cookie, Jack in the box, Vanilla Townie stabbed with a carrot night 1


Day 2 starts now.
 
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:09 am

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VOTE: Purple Orange

He visited EC.

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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:10 am

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Very well, then.

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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:16 am

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AntB wrote:Just curious, if/when I flip town, who are peoples top scumspects?
lewarcher82 wrote:In that case, which I still regard to as unlikely, I would turn my attention to the wagon on you, with particular attention to EtherealCookie or whoever will replace him.
Zang wrote:
AntB, Del Taco, Vannila Townie was lynched.

Zang wrote:
Ethereal Cookie, Jack in the box, Vanilla Townie stabbed with a carrot night 1

 
lewarcher, aka the genius of scumhunting.

*sigh*

however, let's make the wagon grow:
vote: Purple Orange
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:31 am

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vote: purple Orange
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:31 am

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l-2
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after a wank.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:35 am

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Hm. Unless the mod's a bastard, I'd expect a Cop to exist in the game. While I've seen generalized modding advice that says not to include two investigative roles on average, it's certainly not a longshot, and me being a Miller could be one of the balancing factors.

I'll buy the claim and the implication barring a good alibi from Purple Orange (I'll hold the vote since I don't think the Day should end her getting a shot at explaining). Come to think of it, peanutman sounded like he knew way too much of what was going on all things considered. The coaching in his posts comes off as a scumtell, seeing as he has a great deal of confidence as to whether someone's being scummy or is just playing poorly.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:40 am

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In the worst possible case, Chrono may be scum bussing a partner. But I don't think he is a scum who virtually suicides by faking a guilty report on a townie so early in game.

However, I agree that we should give her a chance to post.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:53 am

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...yet you're voting to end the Day. :roll:
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:52 pm

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Ha. I read that as "Ethereal Cookie, Jack of All Trades..." Need more sleep.

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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:12 pm

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yabbaguy wrote:Hm. Unless the mod's a bastard, I'd expect a Cop to exist in the game. While I've seen generalized modding advice that says not to include two investigative roles on average, it's certainly not a longshot, and me being a Miller could be one of the balancing factors.
^This, here. *headwall*

Wish I'd have checked this game in time to say it first, but yabba nails the crux matter. Congrats on outing what are probably the two investigative/information roles in the game, Chron...did a miller PROBABLY implying a cop just not occur to you? Tracker/cop is
not
an unheard of combination, nor one as super-charged as watcher/cop could be. (Which is why, along with it making about zero sense as a scum play to claim tracker under no pressure, that I think Chron is about certainly town...just not making the smartest move ever by claiming immediately like this).

It would be unexpected, unusual, and confusing to include no cop in a game that also contained a miller, but wouldn't call it "bastard" modding, per se. There was a recent threads on the mafia discussion boards, in fact, about how misleading things like copless millers are perfectly acceptable. If you want to wager that's what he our mod did this round, I can't say much to stop you. But it's NOT.

Claim: Carls' Jr., cop.


If you guys want full flavor, I can give it, but I'm not sure how much difference you feel it would make.

I checked EC because a) I didn't think it was likely the guy would be targeted and nightkilled, and b) he was someone I didn't have a supremely strong town or scumread on yet. Obviously could have chosen my target better. :/

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