Cyclic Experimentation Set x01 - [Game Over]

[themanhimself]

I hate to be the guy that says this, but we've had

three

townie deaths today..... maybe a no lynch wouldn't be such a bad idea?

[diddin]

I hate to be the guy that says this, but we've had

three

townie deaths today..... maybe a no lynch wouldn't be such a bad idea?

[Saint]

Red, Directing the doctor is more town or null imo , and is lynch diddin or wc that bad? Ppl are accusing, and I understand pressure as town is good.

Have you considered the possibility of a Mafia roleblocker at all? If there is one and the Mafia finds out who the doctor is, they may put the doctor under scrutiny by keeping roleblocking him or her while killing off the people to whom he or she is directed. Also, I haven't seen it, but according to the Wiki we may also run into a "macho" version of a role (i.e. one that cannot be doc-protected).

In the cyclical nature of this game, I am not sure what the scum have.

I was busy like hell today as I think I posted a while back.

I'm vigging Helghast TOMORROW unless there are serious reasons why I shouldn't. It provides more connections than if I were to shoot WC (powerrox adamantly defending him, Saint HEAVILY attacking WC last minute)

I would rather see a vig hit on Narsis or EC than WraithChild

Vig wc

Direct Contradiction. I say hang him.

Unvote, Vote: Saint

this is not a direct contradiction as the game flows
i was being pressured of buddying with the above comment, so that is why i even posted that
are you dense?
I am basically saying "I don't really care, because I don't know his alignment"

Quit stalling, diddin.

q21, sorry. I admit I skimmed;

I'm a bad townie

. I'm also a hypocrite in the sense that I build walls but get upset when I have to read other people's walls. To compensate, I don't usually expect people to read mine (except for what I've addressed to them).

is that a claim?

MOI

I have had people try to make associations between me and WC
I have had a person try to make associations with me between me and diddin
I was merely stating that as far as I know, they are scum.

[Nero Cain]

I hate to be the guy that says this, but we've had

three

townie deaths today..... maybe a no lynch wouldn't be such a bad idea?

So whats your problem with a powers lynch? I do not like your fear mongering.

I'm really getting sick of CKD and his constant needing to catch up or reread. Contents or die.

[DarlaBlueEyes]

Well...fuck....that went well. /sarcasm

Prior to the lynch I was most suss of WC and Diddin with his stalling, and while I still have a small pinky fos on Diddin, I am looking back over WC posts right now to remind myself of the specifics of why I found him scummy and will list them should i decide to vote because my content level so far has been disgusting.

Saturday I will be fully here though! <3

[RedCoyote]

1. So having a suspicion based on EC’s early game play, when he was active, immediately dissolves into being labelled lurker hunting? I just want to be clear.
2. You are missing the point. At the point where Pops went after Longing he was clearly lurking and Pops attacked him for just that. Did I attack EC for lurking? Nope. I attacked him for his terri-bad Parama attack. Did I attack Narsis for lurking? No, again for making a horrible bandwagon vote with no reasoning.
3. Wrong. I’d attacked Pops, Chkflip, EC and Narsis (and now Powerrox). Not a single portion of my attack had anything to do with their inactivity.
4. We disagree. Noted.

This is becoming such a technical argument now when we both essentially agree that EC and Narsis are scummy. I mean, the whole reason I came down on Helghast was removed from the lurking aspect as well. I really do not wish to split hairs on the differences between attacking a player who happens to be lurking and attacking a lurker who happens to be scummy. I just didn't think your pops attack was very forthcoming.

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If I could get an explanation why HG is so scummy for once then I'd never had to do this in the first place.

No, you don't care. That's what bugs me most. You've made the same cheap comment four times that you "don't get" the Helghast wagon. You don't bother to figure it out and you don't bother to ask questions. The only thing you want to do is let it be known that you think Helghast is town (since you haven't really elaborated I can only assume you know this because of your alignment).

Vote: Powerrox93

I feel at least as good about this as I did Helghast, possibly even better. I'm not a huge NC fan, but I will join him on this wagon for sure.

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I also think that Diddin should examined a bit closer because essentially he limited his Vig targets to only myself and Helghast, he refused to kill EC.

I very much agree with you here, WC. Don't let me forget it either. This is exactly what I'm thinking.

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Because shooting before everyone can voice their opinion on a daykill we were going to decide to be done democratically is a great idea!

I respect this, but give me a little more. Was there someone specifically you were waiting for? Darla? EC? Someone else? This could just be a throwaway comment if you don't have something real to back it up with. I'll honestly give you more credit if you can point to something though.

Quadz: Why are you lynching VI's when you have SCUMREADS? Why is lynching an anti-town player that you think *COULD* be scum when you could lynch someone you're pretty sure is scum?

This is a good point, quadz. Is diddin right? Do you have scummier reads than Power that you aren't acting on (aside from diddin)? It looks like you think Parama is worse than Power.

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I hate to be the guy that says this, but we've had

three

townie deaths today..... maybe a no lynch wouldn't be such a bad idea?

Sorry, but that's a horrible idea. I'm all for an alternative to Power, but a lynch is infinitely more important than daykills. All of the deaths have been effectively decided by one person (even with the vote on the Vig shot). We need a wagon that we can use in the late game to help us decide on future suspects. You probably know that better than I do, theman, so I don't really think I like this comment.


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is that a claim?

I claim that I'm town-aligned, yeah. That has nothing to do with my ability or lack thereof.

[WrathChild]

I wanted to wait until as close to deadline as possible.

Why the hell would you do that? *scumdarasplode*

Because shooting before everyone can voice their opinion on a daykill we were going to decide to be done democratically is a great idea!

I also think that Diddin should examined a bit closer because essentially he limited his Vig targets to only myself and Helghast, he refused to kill EC. It seems to be a safe-scum play to limit the vig targets as he did. While he made it appear that we had a choice, it was win-win for Diddin IF he is scum.

My God you are slow.

How many times did we agree I was shooting people with a lot of votes (hint: not EC)? How many times did I say I didn't want someone else to claim and potentially out a stronger power role? It's like I'm talking to someone and whenever I make a point they stick their fingers in their ear and go LALALALALALA YOU'RE WRONG YOU'RE WRONG

The point is that you narrowed the potential Vig candidates down to two very early and greatly influenced the number of people voting for each of those players by doing so. You can't just say "DERP! They had lotso votes", they had lots of votes because you said they were they only two people you would shoot. EC would of had many more votes if you didn't deny the option to shoot him.

[quadz08]

Hey quadz.
I don't even care about what you want from me. If you find it scummy that I haven't responded, then you're going to hate me after this game's over.

k.

I wanted to wait until as close to deadline as possible.

Why the hell would you do that? *scumdarasplode*

Because shooting before everyone can voice their opinion on a daykill we were going to decide to be done democratically is a great idea!

Ok, see, waiting for everyone to voice their opinion makes sense. Waiting as close to deadline as possible does NOT.

Quadz: Why are you lynching VI's when you have SCUMREADS? Why is lynching an anti-town player that you think *COULD* be scum when you could lynch someone you're pretty sure is scum?

Anti Town does NOT equal scummy. You have failed to voice your opinion on whether you even think power is scum or not.

unvote, Vote: quadz08

This is in response to diddin, SC, RC, and anyone else who has/will get on me about this. I realize my position goes against site meta, and may be seen as scummy. Nonetheless, my belief is that it is more beneficial to the town to remove distractions early on, allowing more time to cement scumreads and townreads. I think powerrox has been scummy. I think Parama has been scummier. I think that powerrox is significantly more distracting and harder to read than Parama, and will cause unnecessary confusion in later Days. Thus, my vote for powerrox.

[curiouskarmadog]

I hate to be the guy that says this, but we've had

three

townie deaths today..... maybe a no lynch wouldn't be such a bad idea?

So whats your problem with a powers lynch? I do not like your fear mongering.

I'm really getting sick of CKD and his constant needing to catch up or reread. Contents or die.

hey asshat...I am caught up, I need to reread given the new information...why arent you doing that???!?!? of course, you probably missed that too didnt you...you know what I am tired of...you saying shit that isnt true, then backtracking when you are called out for it...at first I thought is a mistake...but you have done it 2-3 times now

unvote, vote Nero Cain.

you have done absolutely NOTHING protown in the game...you bitch that I havent put forth any content, but you have done JACK SHIT....not to mention, I bet you havent checked my other current games to see if (i dont know) actually didnt have time to post earlier this week...

you are not scum hunting only coasting by

[curiouskarmadog]

I wanted to wait until as close to deadline as possible.

Why the hell would you do that? *scumdarasplode*

Because shooting before everyone can voice their opinion on a daykill we were going to decide to be done democratically is a great idea!

I also think that Diddin should examined a bit closer because essentially he limited his Vig targets to only myself and Helghast, he refused to kill EC. It seems to be a safe-scum play to limit the vig targets as he did. While he made it appear that we had a choice, it was win-win for Diddin IF he is scum.

My God you are slow.

How many times did we agree I was shooting people with a lot of votes (hint: not EC)? How many times did I say I didn't want someone else to claim and potentially out a stronger power role? It's like I'm talking to someone and whenever I make a point they stick their fingers in their ear and go LALALALALALA YOU'RE WRONG YOU'RE WRONG

The point is that you narrowed the potential Vig candidates down to two very early and greatly influenced the number of people voting for each of those players by doing so. You can't just say "DERP! They had lotso votes", they had lots of votes because you said they were they only two people you would shoot. EC would of had many more votes if you didn't deny the option to shoot him.

more scum points for you....hey scum bag, why didnt you bring this up BEFORE he vigged? You just saved it for after so you can attack him?

also, I checked, you have misrepresented/lied about people 3 times now....care to explain why you are not scum hunting or reading the game?

[curiouskarmadog]

ahhhh, bitch
the above post was to WC, not Nero...(get a new avatar)..guess I am a hypocrite.

WC, you can ignore the last bit, but going to check to see if you made these complaints BEFORE the vig.

[LimMePls]

Well...fuck....that went well. /sarcasm

Prior to the lynch I was most suss of WC and Diddin with his stalling, and while I still have a small pinky fos on Diddin, I am looking back over WC posts right now to remind myself of the specifics of why I found him scummy and will list them should i decide to vote because my content level so far has been disgusting.

Saturday I will be fully here though! <3

@Everyone else: Please join me on this wagon. It's awesome. Quadz is also an acceptable wagon.

[LimMePls]

I wanted to wait until as close to deadline as possible.

Why the hell would you do that? *scumdarasplode*

Because shooting before everyone can voice their opinion on a daykill we were going to decide to be done democratically is a great idea!

I also think that Diddin should examined a bit closer because essentially he limited his Vig targets to only myself and Helghast, he refused to kill EC. It seems to be a safe-scum play to limit the vig targets as he did. While he made it appear that we had a choice, it was win-win for Diddin IF he is scum.

My God you are slow.

How many times did we agree I was shooting people with a lot of votes (hint: not EC)? How many times did I say I didn't want someone else to claim and potentially out a stronger power role? It's like I'm talking to someone and whenever I make a point they stick their fingers in their ear and go LALALALALALA YOU'RE WRONG YOU'RE WRONG

The point is that you narrowed the potential Vig candidates down to two very early and greatly influenced the number of people voting for each of those players by doing so. You can't just say "DERP! They had lotso votes", they had lots of votes because you said they were they only two people you would shoot. EC would of had many more votes if you didn't deny the option to shoot him.

QFT.

[popsofctown]

Hey quadz.
I don't even care about what you want from me. If you find it scummy that I haven't responded, then you're going to hate me after this game's over.

this is too ballsy to me scummy....ugh

From Parama? No

while I still have a small pinky fos on Diddin

@Everyone else: Please join me on this wagon. It's awesome. Quadz is also an acceptable wagon.

That is quite a scummy bit, but I have to

vote: Powerrox

If he made the comment 4 times thats just insane

[themanhimself]

I in no way understand the powerrox wagon, I just read him in ISO and without over-exaggerating I see him as extremely likely town. His last posts were all trying to understand why helghast was scummy and helghast flipped town.

[LimMePls]

Why does him wanting to understand why helghast was scummy and helghast flipping town make him extremely likely town? I find the flip actually makes him more likely scum, as though he already knew that Helghast was going to flip town, and wanted to get town-cred by opposing the vig (although not nearly effectively/strongly enough to actually stop it).

[popsofctown]

I in no way understand the powerrox wagon, I just read him in ISO and without over-exaggerating I see him as extremely likely town. His last posts were all trying to understand why helghast was scummy and helghast flipped town.

[themanhimself]

So he's scum because he believed a townie was town?

[popsofctown]

[themanhimself]

Do you have a post-restriction for retarded jpegs making retarded points or is that just your normal vernacular?

[WrathChild]

ahhhh, bitch
the above post was to WC, not Nero...(get a new avatar)..guess I am a hypocrite.

WC, you can ignore the last bit, but going to check to see if you made these complaints BEFORE the vig.

I'm confuse at which portion of your rant is directed at me and which portion is directed at Nero.

Anyway, I brought it up several times before the vig, trying to get Diddin to explain his refusal to vig EC and whether or not Helghast and I were the only two he would vig.

[popsofctown]

normal vernacular, I usually do it some, this game I felt like stepping it up.

Powerrox is not scum for thinking Helghast is town. Powerrox was scum for thinking Helghast was town for no verifiable reason, refusing to offer real opinion and comment on it, and not defending Helghast in a way that would stop his lynch.

667 was such blatant, frustrating WIFOM that I couldn't post in words in reaction even if I tried.

[LimMePls]

Why does him wanting to understand why helghast was scummy and helghast flipping town make him extremely likely town? I find the flip actually makes him more likely scum, as though he already knew that Helghast was going to flip town, and wanted to get town-cred by opposing the vig (although not nearly effectively/strongly enough to actually stop it).

@tmh: this was directed at you. You've posted since, and you didn't answer.

[Nero Cain]

I hate to be the guy that says this, but we've had

three

townie deaths today..... maybe a no lynch wouldn't be such a bad idea?

So whats your problem with a powers lynch? I do not like your fear mongering.

I'm really getting sick of CKD and his constant needing to catch up or reread. Contents or die.

hey asshat...I am caught up, I need to reread given the new information...why arent you doing that???!?!? of course, you probably missed that too didnt you...you know what I am tired of...you saying shit that isnt true, then backtracking when you are called out for it...at first I thought is a mistake...but you have done it 2-3 times now

unvote, vote Nero Cain.

you have done absolutely NOTHING protown in the game...you bitch that I havent put forth any content, but you have done JACK SHIT....not to mention, I bet you havent checked my other current games to see if (i dont know) actually didnt have time to post earlier this week...

you are not scum hunting only coasting by

^^^^^way to defensive for a townie.

[Nero Cain]

@LMP join the Powerrox wagon. We'll worry about Darla and CKD tomorrow.