Multiple Personality Mafia (Game Over)

[Tuniogen]

Well, Slaxx totally murdered the third person thing I had going, so I'll be ceasing the Mafuyu-style posting now.

TwoHeadedBoy reads exactly how I would expect a Pie/Fugi hydra to read. Theoretical arguments, a hint of IoA, generally on-to-it reads. I've come to expect this from both of you individually, so it's no surprise to see you doing it as one entity. To answer your question, I think 2HB is town at the moment.

As for Yasuda, I'm personally unsure. Looking at his/her ISO, the only non-useless post is an appeal to LLD. I'm going to trust Slaxx's judgement for the time being.

Spoiler: Unrelated Nitpick

If you don't wish to use our full name when addressing us/mentioning us, call us "WIN". I don't like "Tuni".

A) So? My reasoning exists in my head and I don't see any reason for anyone else to have to know it.

And this is why we want to lynch your anti-town ass today.

Richard.

[Yasuda]

Note: I may be saying what has been said a thousand times over. It is, unless otherwise noted, unintentional, as Skimathon 2011 didn't lend much to remembering what's been said.

PoS: Yasuda

Not sure how to feel about claiming timelines. Doesn't really help us too much, but I'm not going to scream and RAGE IN ALL CAPS if we decide to do it, either. Then again, I still haven't finished my first cup of coffee, so I'm not thinking straight.

~Pie

Not sure what the giant quivering penis of suspicion is for when you don't know how to feel about it. But, hey.

Pick someone and vote, or else don't vote. There's rarely a good reason to NL. The only decent time I've seen it was at MYLO in the game I modded.

Okay fine.

Unvote

WHY would you unvote? People might think you were lurking again!!!!!

However, this is very true. As there's already enough pressure on ShadoWolf I'm going to VOTE: Elli until new information arises.

Because, you know, too much pressure on possible!scum is a bad thing.

FoS

Scum with Shadowolf. Lynch #2 found.

Someone doesn't think exactly as he does so he FoS's him. That's kinda suspect.

CHAINSAW DEFENSE

i ought to read exe in ISO after this

Look at XYZ!

There's a lot of "Take a look at XYZ" going on without the people saying it actually taking looks. It's not a great trend.

Tuniogen is confident, for the time being, in Exe being scum. Tuniogen could go into his ISO and do a PBPA, but Tuniogen feels such analysis would be moot. So, Tuniogen will simply quote his latest post (#108):

You scum bro?

QFS: Quoted For Scumness.

VOTE: Exe

I don't get it. You say something's scummy, and then leave us to figure out how? What?

Or maybe that something is a vote. (

I still think Shado is scum, though.

He hasn't really made a breakthrough.)

unvote

VOTE: Ellibereth

Emphasis mine. So, if you think Shado is scum, WHY ARE YOU MOVING OFF HIM?

shannon's content-mobile will be docked in the station for some time on pages 6-9, with a departure time soon

i.e. covering p6-9 in a bit

[Yasuda]

EBWOP: And by soon, I mean maybe tomorrow, it's way too fucking hot in here to think straight. But definitely by tomorrow.

Yeah.

[Exe]

This is some of the worst play I've ever seen

This is a bad reason to lynch someone.

Nice case scumboy.
Besides, I like my strat, you like yours. Too bad too sad.

And this is why we want to lynch your anti-town ass today.

I see no reason why wagoning the people I find scummy is anti-town. The only thing I am NOT doing that

might

be pro-town, is spending my time convincing others that my scum-reads are the correct ones.
However, that rarely works, so I got over that fad a while ago.


Two people want me dead for cases that really aren't "scum" but instead called "anti-town." And they call

my

play bad.

[mongoose]

VOTE: exe

I haven;t checked the thread in 24 hours, and all of a sudden I have 5 pages to read. This better not keep up. That or maybe I should check the thread more [/non-serious talk

Anyways, the cases for exe have already been stated, and this day has been exe vs. shado, with all the arguments based around which one is scummier. I've already explained my view on shado, and I honestly think nothing good will come out of that wagon. On the other hand, I really dont like exe at all. Mosts of the posts that are scummy have been described once or twice, and Im kinda in a rush, but you get the idea. Yeah, Im probably gonna get called out for not being helpful, but I really have nothing to add.

[themanhimself]

My vote for ellibereth rather than shado was because I found it weird that two players did the same thing and one got attacked for it. I wasn't attempting to intentionally not put pressure on shado, I just thought ellibereth deserved some too since he did the same thing.

I see no reason why wagoning the people I find scummy is anti-town.

I've seen people pull out this argument several times and to me it just reeks of trying to give yourself permission to be scummy which understandably is not really permissible.

[TwoHeadedBoy]

GOD I'M SO

EXCITED

ABOUT THIS GAME, LET'S CATCH SOME SCUM GUYS WOO

Not sure what the giant quivering penis of suspicion is for when you don't know how to feel about it. But, hey.

GENTLEMEN... BEHOLD... THE GIANT QUIVERING PENIS OF SUSPICION.

This is some of the worst play I've ever seen

This is a bad reason to lynch someone.

Nice case scumboy.

Apparently someone playing terribly, thus playing anti-town (really, when does someone playing badly

help

the town, as either faction?), is a bad reason to lynch. I'm going to go rethink my entire (yet short) mafia career now.

*ponder*

...
...
...

Okay, nope, still think that's bullshit.

I dunno bout my other head [for sure], but I'm all in for lynching you because you're aggressive scum trying to push an easy lynch while using "I don't have to explain my reasoning" as an easy way out for when you're called on anything later.

~Pie

[Rena]

I wouldn't call somebody scummy for defending somebody else at this stage, Yasuda, I do, however, think it is worthy of taking note of for later in the game.

Exe

But I definitely can't pass up the biggest wagon.

This is scummy because it is opportunistic. It definately shows that rather than read the game and formed his own point of view, Exe has just skimmed the game and looked at the latest vote count before sheeping the other players and trying to obtain a quicklynch.

He then goes on to vote Shado and claims it is not an RVS vote. This looks a lot like vote hopping because he doesn't explain why he believes Shado is scum and merely votes him. By doing this, he not only causes problems for his own slot but he makes Shado look bad because Shado can't defend himself for Exe's vote. Looking at his next post, it looks like this is just sheeping again because he QFT's Lambda's post - it seems to me that he was just waiting for a reason to come along for Shado's lynch that he could just jump on.

He then claims that themanhimself is scum with Shado, but again he doesn't explain why. This is scummy because it allows him to coast through the game and fencesit without giving his views properly. He does it again with THB and Tuni

@Llamarble: Wrongo. Content is overrated

Lolwut? Scummy. Content is the only way we can catch scum without investigative roles putting their necks on the line by outting themselves.

Overall:

I think Exe would make a good day one lynch giving the evidence put in front of me.

I could also see CupCakePanda being scum. Now I'm torn between who I want to lynch today. The scum who is participating in the game, or at least trying to. Or the scum who isn't posting much content and seems to be preoccupied with whether or not Lambda is a trap...

[Tuniogen]

I think I would be confident lynching Exe on his stupid "lets play dumb about the setup" facade by itself.

[CupcakePanda]

.yeh ,tuB .ti tuoba leef ot woh wonk t'nod uoy nehw rof si noicipsus fo sinep gnireviuq tnaig eht tahw erus toN

.NOICIPSUS FO SINEP GNIREVIUQ TNAIG EHT ...DLOHEB ...NEMELTNEG

.noitapicitnA fo sineP gnireviuQ tnaiG eht htiw noicipsuS fo sineP gnireviuQ tnaiG eht pu xim syawla I

[themanhimself]

.yeh ,tuB .ti tuoba leef ot woh wonk t'nod uoy nehw rof si noicipsus fo sinep gnireviuq tnaig eht tahw erus toN

.NOICIPSUS FO SINEP GNIREVIUQ TNAIG EHT ...DLOHEB ...NEMELTNEG

.noitapicitnA fo sineP gnireviuQ tnaiG eht htiw noicipsuS fo sineP gnireviuQ tnaiG eht pu xim syawla I

Lulz

[Scott Brosius]

Keeping my eye on Scott. THB caught it too. His shado vote seems off (I think thats where he was going with it).

How is it off? He said he really didn't want to appear he was lurking in this game. That is massively scummy to me. You are buddying THB pretty hard. Noted.

Also noting that after Exe took over as lead wagon, Shado has gotten very quiet, as if not to arouse suspicion again.

I think Exe is a prime suspect for opportunistic scum to jump on his wagon. The case really made of nothing other than playstyle (unless someone can show me differently, but that's all I really see). I need an updated VC to see who is on this wagon and then I will delve further into this.

[ShadoWolf]

How is it off? He said he really didn't want to appear he was lurking in this game.

It's now massively scummy to attempt to change my meta?

Also noting that after Exe took over as lead wagon, Shado has gotten very quiet, as if not to arouse suspicion again.

What the fuck. I went to bed, then I had college, then I came straight to this thread to post. I'm sorry if that constitutes "very quiet" to you. Sorry if this seems like an overreaction, but it's literally been about 17 hours since my last post, so you can't accuse me as being very quiet.

Funny thing I noticed in my Skimathon 2011:

Holy shit. I go to bed and there's now a whole new thread with 40 posts.

Vote: No Lynch

until I get some scumreads

.

However, I'm

not too sure on any of these reads

being concrete, as this is only D1.

Emphasis mine. Now, I'm not sure what you make of it, Shado, but this to me looks like, well, to be obvious, using scumreads as a reason and then dismissing them anyway. Just saying.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. I used lack of scumreads to place a NL vote, then I said that the scumreads I have are shaky because it's only D1. What point are you trying to make?

[Exe]

A few people are presenting a false dichotomy that today's lynch is me or shado. Just note that.

it just reeks of trying to give yourself permission to be scummy

Maybe, like everyone else, your definition of "scummy" is outdated. As I said, no one presents

any

reason why my strategy is anti-town, except to repeatedly say it's antitown. As far as I've experienced, my strategy is quite useful to the town.

Apparently someone playing terribly, thus playing anti-town (really, when does someone playing badly help the town, as either faction?), is a bad reason to lynch.

This is crap. You should lynch scum, not "bad play." Anyone who has been in mafia for more than a week learns this. So why does arrogant old THB get to claim otherwise?

"I don't have to explain my reasoning" as an easy way out for when you're called on anything later.

See, this is exactly the argument that is stupid and outdated. You know EXACTLY where I stand. Shado is my scum suspect. You and Tuni are alternate-team scum suspects. In no way will I be able to claim anything otherwise lately.

He then claims that themanhimself is scum with Shado, but again he doesn't explain why. This is scummy because it allows him to coast through the game and fencesit without giving his views properly.

HERP DERP apparently stating my EXACT VIEWS = fencesitting. Because I'm definitely not sure of my reads.

I think I would be confident lynching Exe on his stupid "lets play dumb about the setup" facade by itself.

^^This person makes assumptions about the setup. Tsk tsk.


Garr you guys made me post a Wall-o-text. That's just bad play. Don't expect many more of them.

[Exe]

FTR: I'd be happy to see a wagon on me, and even a lynch. That way everyone gets to see how many opportunistic players there are

[Ellibereth]

A few people are presenting a false dichotomy that today's lynch is me or shado. Just note that.

Curious who? (i.e. I'm too lazy to look for myself).

[Ellibereth]

Ellibereth and Rena 'looking for their townreads' on Fate seems weird to me, but Fate is acting different from his play in my last game with him.

I always get a town read on Fatey. WITHIN POSTS. Makes me sad that I'm not getting it here yet...

He said he really didn't want to appear he was lurking in this game. That is massively scummy to me.

aWhy?

[ShadoWolf]

See, this is exactly the argument that is stupid and outdated. You know EXACTLY where I stand. Shado is my scum suspect. You and Tuni are alternate-team scum suspects. In no way will I be able to claim anything otherwise lately.

I think I would be confident lynching Exe on his stupid "lets play dumb about the setup" facade by itself.

^^This person makes assumptions about the setup. Tsk tsk.

MOD: Can you confirm that the 5 mafia listed in this semi open set up all share the same wincon, or are at least of the same faction?

Well duh. I can't have a 2-man team and a 3-man team in a 20p game, can I?

You are mod confirmed wrong. I'd reassess some things.

[TwoHeadedBoy]

As I said, no one presents

any

reason why my strategy is anti-town, except to repeatedly say it's antitown.

Your strategy is anti-town because you're not giving any reasoning or insight, you're running around screaming THIS GUY IS SCUM LYNCH PLZ, which barely generates any discussion (barring the discussion concerning your eventual lynch because of this) or helps anyone else get any reads.

You're also tunneling on one player, expanding to others only when they're "connected" to this player (as well as defending yourself of course). That's scummy, or at the least, bad play.

This is crap. You should lynch scum, not "bad play."

Good thing you're scum that's playing badly then. :U

See, this is exactly the argument that is stupid and outdated. You know EXACTLY where I stand. Shado is my scum suspect. You and Tuni are alternate-team scum suspects. In no way will I be able to claim anything otherwise lately.

You can change your reasoning behind your vote depending if the wagon takes off/a lynch goes through, or if the wagon falls apart. It gives you an easy out either way.

Garr you guys made me post a Wall-o-text.

That's a brick, at best.

~Pie

[TwoHeadedBoy]

EBWOP: Thanks for not answering our question, Scott.

~Pie

[Scott Brosius]

I didn't really find a specific question from you pie? Just give thoughts on Player X or anyone you mentioned earlier? Plz quote if I missed it.

How is it off? He said he really didn't want to appear he was lurking in this game.

It's now massively scummy to attempt to change my meta?

Also noting that after Exe took over as lead wagon, Shado has gotten very quiet, as if not to arouse suspicion again.

What the fuck. I went to bed, then I had college, then I came straight to this thread to post. I'm sorry if that constitutes "very quiet" to you. Sorry if this seems like an overreaction, but it's literally been about 17 hours since my last post, so you can't accuse me as being very quiet.

Funny thing I noticed in my Skimathon 2011:

Holy shit. I go to bed and there's now a whole new thread with 40 posts.

Vote: No Lynch

until I get some scumreads

.

However, I'm

not too sure on any of these reads

being concrete, as this is only D1.

Emphasis mine. Now, I'm not sure what you make of it, Shado, but this to me looks like, well, to be obvious, using scumreads as a reason and then dismissing them anyway. Just saying.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. I used lack of scumreads to place a NL vote, then I said that the scumreads I have are shaky because it's only D1. What point are you trying to make?

Well, what role has the most to gain by not seeming lurky? Obviously scum. Also I suppose things are moving quicker in this game than I am used to given that I don't play large games that often. So it seemed like you hadn't posted in awhile.

A few people are presenting a false dichotomy that today's lynch is me or shado. Just note that.

Curious who? (i.e. I'm too lazy to look for myself).

Self-admitted laziness. Helpful.

[Robocopter87]

-Robocopter is flying under the radar while trying to seem helpful by just asking questions.

I'm trying a new playstyle. More shy and refined. Deal with it.

Exe didn't answer my question BTW.

[Exe]

@THB: My strategy generates loads of useful discussion and avoids loads of unnecessary discussion. I get to see everyone's stance on other players clear as day. Your Analysis and Discussion strategy just lets the scum obfuscate their stance behind fancy words.

Hmm. Never saw the mod response on the previous page. Will have to reconsider.

@Robo: Which question? Because I distinctly remember answering a Q from you.

[Robocopter87]

7.8 eh? Not bad.

Can you give me your full case? All in one post please?

It wasnt a question, more of a request.

[Ellibereth]

Self-admitted laziness. Helpful.

I no rite.

He said he really didn't want to appear he was lurking in this game. That is massively scummy to me.

aWhy?