Open 268: Raise the White Flag (Game Over)

[bvoigt]

@rekirtS: Too easy?

[rekirtS]

Well you're on everybodies scumlist so either your town and the scum pushing to end it or your scum buddies are already bussing you out, I'm not sure which. I'm thinking either you or Snake are scum here.

[Equinox]

Vote Count 3.02

Not Voting (7) - andrew94, bvoigt, Chaotic Neutrality, Lindisfarne, rekirtS, silverbullet999, SnakePlissken

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, January 15, 11:59 PM EST (UTC-5).

[andrew94]

how am i rushing to vote? if anything, im delaying voting.
voting in lylo causes wifom

[bvoigt]

Well you're on everybodies scumlist so either your town and the scum pushing to end it or your scum buddies are already bussing you out, I'm not sure which. I'm thinking either you or Snake are scum here.

Yesterday, you thought I was one of the towniest people. But now that other people suspect me, you've suddenly changed your mind, and are willing to lynch me.

FOS: rekirtS

[andrew94]

cbb reading his iso now, can you link the quote

[Lindisfarne]

ugh, sorry I've been kind of predisposed folks, one of the gals at work quit and we are all trying to pick up the slack left behind (I'm actually heading out to work as a type this).

I like the concept of using FOS's as votes. IT shows our intent without being able to lead to a rushed lynch.

Mod

, can you keep track of our FOS's as if they were votes, without the concept of them counting as votes do? I think it would be greatly helpful and appreciated.

If this is allowed, we should only have one FOS allowed for each person, much like the vote.

The main thing I find necessary to comment on is thus:

Well you're on everybodies scumlist so either your town and the scum pushing to end it or your scum buddies are already bussing you out, I'm not sure which.

The above was in regards to bvoigt. Although I do have comments in regards to add about his votes that I find suspect (im hoping to get a free moment tonight at work to post more) striker's comment is what bothers me. Yes, many people are on the suspicious list at the moment. I'm sure that everyone has a nice list of suspects. But why bvoigt? Think of it, in this situation, where scum needs ONE MORE TOWNIE LYNCH TO WIN, why would scum out one of their own so easily? With so many gunning for him, it seems natural that scum would be pushing this. If so, why would they bus one of their own at this stage, in such a good position? That seems outrageously suspect to me.

Also, I like you CN. I find you pretty logical and a good addition to this game. However, I want to use a quote directed to townies after a game I had won as scum:

But you all should have paid more attention to his signature, and especially to the fact that he was alive at endgame at all!"

Ignore the first part, it's the second that is pertinent. I generally have a reason for all of my funky questions. You and I are fairly logical talkers in this game, which makes us a natural enemy to scum. In the game mr flay spoke of above, I did the same I am doing now: I tried to be as logical as possible. Yet I was scum, of course. NO ONE ASKED WHY I WAS ALIVE AT ENDGAME. If someone is intelligent and a clever scum hunter, they are a natural target for a NK. Now, neither of us are dead yet. Hence why I asked who finds us at the top of the scum list: given that scum MAY use the argument that we could be lynched in the day time instead of wasting an NK on us, since we were on the last two lynches. However, this doesn't seem to be the case. That is leading me to dwell on Mr. Flay's point, if someone is so helpful and a good, logical member, why on earth are they lasting this long? I hope I am just being paranoid, but it's a feeling I can't quite shake.

[rekirtS]

Yeah I noticed that too. Cookie flipped too from townish to scumish. Its not because others suspect you. You've been on both lynches so its hard not to suspect you, and you're more suspicious to me then Lisdis or CN.

Preedit: I guess that makes sense Lindis.

[Equinox]

Mod

, can you keep track of our FOS's as if they were votes, without the concept of them counting as votes do? I think it would be greatly helpful and appreciated.

I apologize, but I can only count votes. Counting FoSes favors a side and makes me an active entity in the game.

[Chaotic Neutrality]

I'm already compiling something similar, just a sec

[Chaotic Neutrality]

I like the concept of using FOS's as votes. IT shows our intent without being able to lead to a rushed lynch.

Mod

, can you keep track of our FOS's as if they were votes, without the concept of them counting as votes do? I think it would be greatly helpful and appreciated.

I've actually been keeping track of everyone's suspicions today for this very reason. My hope was that you would state your opinion on things before I had my grand reveal as to avoid the bias that you might have if you knew I was creating it. It's already a little late considering Andrew already circumvented this problem with his FoS suggestion, but I still think having everyone's opinion available gives us a fairly valuable set of information.

The following is a list of players and who they have stated their suspects are, as of this gameday. This does not account for levels of suspicion, only specific statements of suspicion. I'll add em all up for you guys in a neat table just below this one, so don't worry about the math (unless you want to double check it, which is fine by me).

Person: Suspect A, Suspect B, ect.

SB: Lind, CN, Bv, SB
Snake: Bv, CN
Bv: Snake, rekirtS
Andrew: Lind, Bv
RS: BV, Andrew, Snake
I suspect Bv and Snake most. (this was before your post. Now you can add rekirtS to my list.)

And in reverse order, as that is also relevant game data

Suspect count

bvoigt (5) - silver, Snake, andrew, Chaotic, rekirtS

Snake (3) rekirtS, bvoigt, Chaotic
Chaotic (2) - Snake, rekirtS, silver
rekirtS (2) - bvoigt, Chaotic
Lind (2) - silver, andrew
andrew (1) - rekirtS
silver (0) - silver(?)
Equinox (17)- Mith, Chaotic, Mr. Flay, Dumbledore, JEEP, the 7 dwarves, Oprah, FSM, Muhammad,

RedShirtEnsign

(nvm, he got dayvigged)

I have much more to comment on from that post Lind, but I want this to be a separate thing. There is overwhelming support for a Bv lynch. I have a couple possible explanations as to why (but again, next post).

[Chaotic Neutrality]

^I'm going to bed. I'll wrap that post up tomorrow and post it.

[andrew94]

well ill do the fos count later

[SnakePlissken]

I would like to point out I didn't avoid the vote, I didn't believe they were scummy enough too vote. I think theres far too much scum wagonning going on here.

You didn't think

anyone

was scummy enough to be voted?

FOS: Snake

No you are deliberately misquoting me, I was talking in reference to CN's post on who voted for who. I find

you

plenty scummy enough for a vote fairly shortly.

FOS Bvoigt

[bvoigt]

I would like to point out I didn't avoid the vote, I didn't believe they were scummy enough too vote. I think theres far too much scum wagonning going on here.

You didn't think

anyone

was scummy enough to be voted?

FOS: Snake

No you are deliberately misquoting me, I was talking in reference to CN's post on who voted for who. I find

you

plenty scummy enough for a vote fairly shortly.

FOS Bvoigt

Yes, you were referring to CN's post, but that doesn't change what you said.

[SnakePlissken]

So you were deliberately misquoting me then?

Vote bvoigt

Lets get this wagon on the roll.

[andrew94]

the suspects voting another siuspect interesting.
since the logic of scum not wanting to out of their own, snake might be scum

hmmmm

[Lindisfarne]

snake

What the fuck are you doing?

[SnakePlissken]

Voting on who I think is scum?

[bvoigt]

So you were deliberately misquoting me then?

Vote bvoigt

Lets get this wagon on the roll.

I just snipped out the long post you were referring to. I didn't change the actual words you wrote. If you didn't mean, "no one was scummy enough to be voted," (paraphrased), what did you mean?

[rekirtS]

We another week until deadline, no need to vote yet... Kinda confused. But I'd like to see what happens next.

[Chaotic Neutrality]

Voting on who I think is scum?

FoS only. We established this.

[andrew94]

Unfos bvoight/snake
fos snake instead

[Lindisfarne]

FoS only. We established this.

^ This
Just chill out, no one has any reasons at all to be throwing votes around at this stage.

[Equinox]

Bump for vote count.