Mini 1091 Mafia Mania -- Game Over

[pappums rat]

and for the record, in response to mariyta's quote from my last post, no it hasnt, there have just been vague mentioning of my criticism of moose, not a definitive case.

[Dekes]

Who'd you target last night and why?

[pappums rat]

i targeted lateralus22 because he seemed obvtown to me and i thought he would be a likely target for the scum.

[Lateralus22]

mhm, interesting stuff, debating with myself whether to believe Rat's claim because I seriously doubt two protection roles. (Moose being the Jack of All Trades effectively makes him like, a super role)

[Lateralus22]

Unvote

For now,

[Dekes]

Hm, I've come to the decision that I believe moose's claim. So the question is now if a Doc fits into a Tracker/JOAT/+x(?) combination.

And I don't like that you twisted your #624 post that it looks like people on your wagon resfuse to give/don't have a case on you.

Pedit:
Heh. Ninja'd by Lat. No need to unvote now.

[pappums rat]

interesting timing for choosing to believe moose's claim, dekes. and i didnt twist anything, no one has a case on me.

[Lateralus22]

Moose do you swear you're the Jack of All trades? This is SUPER important to determining if Rat is scum.

[moose200x]

I am JOAT and interestingly enough I do not have a protect.

[Dekes]

Unovte; Vote: Substrike

[pappums rat]

lol he could just lie. anyone can lie during a claim, so i seriously doubt that swearing to a role is a definitive way to know someone is confirmed as that role or not.

p edit:

what??? you said earlier that you could protect once, kill once, and investigate once.

[Dekes]

I can Cop once, RB once and Kill once. (I read kill as shoot day1, whoops)

Claim is consistent.

[pappums rat]

wait nevermind, this is what you said:

If there is a maf RB- Boberz or substrike are town.

So, if someone got RB'ed please out yourself.

I made it pretty clear I was going to kill bob or sub. If scum team had a RB and they were scum they'd RB me and push my lynch today. If the scum team has a RB and bob/sub are town they wouldn't RB me since I'd just be killing town.

@moose: What are your other trades? NO ONE BUT MOOSE ANSWER THIS, PLEASE.

I can Cop once, RB once and Kill once. (I read kill as shoot day1, whoops)

[moose200x]

Let me quote it for ya rat


Pre-edit: Thanks dekes.

Pre-edit 2: LoL.

[Dekes]

And btw, once again, moose? Are you by any chance voteless? Or have you made up a plan to go through a game without voting once?

[pappums rat]

so we had an informative role (tracker), we have a joat who can be informative, killing, and roleblocking, and a doctor.

[Lateralus22]

Why didn't you protect boberz?

[pappums rat]

because, as had been mentioned by other people that day, if moose did kill boberz we would learn more the next day based on how boberz flipped.

[Lateralus22]

You would already know if he targeted him by the lack of kill no?

[moose200x]

And btw, once again, moose? Are you by any chance voteless? Or have you made up a plan to go through a game without voting once?

I am not real big on throwing my vote around.

[Lateralus22]

imo boberz has been one of the most pro-town players so far and i think his loss would be bad for the town. im hoping moose will get modkilled so that the lynch could be for someone who seems solidly scum, but i doubt this will happen.

?????

[pappums rat]

i guess so, but i figured he might kill boberz, but the scum would still get their kill, so i figured i could kill two birds with one stone by protecting a different person.

p. edit: i said that a long time ago moose.

[pappums rat]

* sorry, taht was lat22 not moose

[AntB]

Pappums case on Boberz and Maiyta is agreeable (lack of transparency, refusal to answer questions, D1 bus D2 buddy, etc)

However, The case against Pappums is good. Inconsistency, failure to acknowledge the case on him, unable to track the votes of his attackers (I

always

keep track of votes against me...

I'm not even 50% into the doc claim... If Boberz was Obvtown you should have protected him as soon as Moose claimed where his shot was going.
What information could you have pulled from an "Obvtown"s flip?
Sure opinions can change... if they did, why? when?
I also find it odd that the two people you claim are "Obvtown" are now your main suspects..? You seem to be doing the opposite of Boberz/Mayirta... but being a lot more subtle about it...

[...] anyone can lie during a claim [...]

[Mariyta]

when i asked mariyta for the case on me:

It's been posted, repeatedly. It doesn't really matter if you agree with it or not (clearly, you wouldn't).

I've posted my case against you already. I'm not going to do it again. Go read.

i have made my reasons for suspecting these three abundantly clear

Please point me to the post where you state the case on me. I don't recall ever seeing one, just accusations of buddying, which are laughable at best.

Not sure I believe the doc claim, but unless someone is going to CC, I'm not willing to risk a potential doc on D2.
UNVOTE: Rat, VOTE: Substrike

Yes, I know, you expected me to re-vote AntB. But I've thought about Dekes' comment on Substrike's inactivity, and Rat's explanation for why he's failed to comment on Substrike is totally not satisfactory. I'm thinking scum buddies, and I'd rather take out the non-doc.