It was suspicious to me because he said it was a random vote that just happened to be the third on a wagon.Zdenek wrote:- It seemed pretty clear to me that el simo was going to take heat for his "random" vote, but ThAdmiral votes el simo using the ridiculous third on the wagon scum tell. This is playing it safe because it builds a backdoor right into the vote. This vote as a way for him to draw attention to el simo's "random vote" without having to push a case.
If I feel someone can explain their actions adequately to me I will unvote them. If someone explains their actions to me and I don't buy it I won't unvote them.Zdenek wrote:- Later he casts suspicion on Ortiz and Pie, and both cases are lame. He unvotes as soon as this is pointed out to him. Next he decides to vote Ortiz for being wishy-washy, which is another lame case. Ortiz points this out to him and he unvotes again.
This feels to me as though he doesn't really believe that the people he is building cases against are scum because he is happy to let them off once they explain themselves to him.
It sounded like he was being evasive. I hate it when you ask someone a question and they pretend not to know it was addressed at them. In this case though heZdenek wrote:- He accuses chamber of playing coy, which I think is mudslinging considering that it was completely unnecessary since chamber had already provided reasons for his vote.
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didn't know it was addressed at him.I already believed Umbrage's earlier point about people disappearing was bs, and this just made it seem even more so. I called him on it.Zdenek wrote:- He accuses Umbrage of backtracking regarding how fast he wants people to post. This is another example of mudslinging because there is no scum motivation for what Umbrage did that I can think of.
A good point is a good point, no matter where it comes from. I was going to say the same thing but someone had already said it for me.Zdenek wrote:Also, as Furcolow has already pointed out, he later "This's" the post of someone he thinks is scum, who is attacking someone who he just unvoted, and who he is about to vote again. To me this shows a lack of sincerity in his vote and unvote on el simo and his vote on Umbrage.
You must have missed the bit where el simo specifically stated, about 10 times, that it wasn't a random vote.Zdenek wrote:He says that there is a discrepancy between what el simo is saying and what he has done. I think this choice of words was designed to paint el simo as scummy, when asked to explain what the discrepancy is he says that he thinks el simo made a random or jokey vote, copped heat for it and that he is now trying to explain his way out of it. I think this is exactly what is happening, but there is no discrepancy.
Pro-town fluff is a bit harsh. I was stating my views on how I play the game after being questioned about them.Zdenek wrote:ISO17 (Post 308):
Pro-town fluff: "I don't believe playing out the rvs for the rvs's sake is good play. I think the sooner a game gets out of the rvs the better. I don't think indiscriminate bandwagonning for the sake of a bandwagon is good."
"This comes out a bit harsh, but I agree with the spirit of it. Ever since VI's became an accepted part of mafiascum the game has become less fun/skill based imo."
