Mini 1102 - Rivertown Mafia (Game Over!)

[Olinea]

Why was he killed?

Likely due to the fact that he was:

a) an IC
b) acting quite town
c) not claimed, and scum knew there was a Doc out there

I realize I wasn't there.

[Baby Spice]

Olinea, what are you getting at?

[Olinea]

I found Furcolow's immediate buddying to el simo when he first posted in this game to be highly unusual, so I did some investigating.

I'm waiting on el simo's response to this to confirm whether he considers Furcolow's statement that simo defended the Cop claim as valid or not. I recently got burned by a nasty scum member who hardcore buddied up to me like a barnacle and rode me to MyLo before disposing of me. It's made me more cautious of buddying in general and Furcolow's inherent disposition to defend el simo strikes me as a possible preparation for buddying.

[Furcolow]

I'm ok with lynching him to prove a point
I only know my alignment

[el simo]

Yet you claim that simo helped you out in that game.

You didn't read the whole game. I pursued him at first until I realized I was being stupid and then defended the rest of the day.

In the one Furcolow scum game I read he fake claimed detective and was lynched.

My suspicion of him in that game was based on a failed meta investigation.

I wasn't defending his claim, I was defending his lynch so that he could have a chance to prove his claim.

I definitely did help him out that game.

[el simo]

Although it is interesting of you to note this, because in that game scum tried to push my wagon based on my relationship with Furcolow. Scum points for Olinea!

[ThAdmiral]

I'm ok with lynching him to prove a point
I only know my alignment

This comes across as really wrong.
Do you think he is scum?

[Olinea]

Simo, point out where I called you scummy and tried to push your wagon.

This case was against Furcolow, not you. I don't view getting buddied as a scumtell.

[el simo]

Simo, point out where I called you scummy and tried to push your wagon.

This case was against Furcolow, not you. I don't view getting buddied as a scumtell.

Your pushing Furcolow based on his relationship with me.

[ortiz1193]

I don't like el simo's reaction to Olinea's efforts there. Olinea looks like he's legitimately trying to scumhunt. el simo giving him scumpoints because of what the scum in the other game did + the fact that Olinea isn't pushing el simo at all is definitely an overreaction.

Yes this game is boring. The extension made it go from super active to the complete opposite.

I'd be up for a lynch of CB, Soras, Pie, and I could be convinced to lynch TK because of the wagoning and connections associated with him.

[Furcolow]

I'm ok with lynching him to prove a point
I only know my alignment

This comes across as really wrong.
Do you think he is scum?

My point is I don't have to believe anyone is scum to be willing to lynch them, because there is noone I can be sure of that is scum.

[Cyberbob]

I'd be up for a lynch of CB, Soras, Pie, and I could be convinced to lynch TK because of the wagoning and connections associated with him.

You are so badly scum. I'm sorry, but you really are.

[Furcolow]

I almost voted him for that, too, bob
I know you're already voting him with 1 other person...
unless they unvoted

[ThAdmiral]

I'm ok with lynching him to prove a point
I only know my alignment

This comes across as really wrong.
Do you think he is scum?

My point is I don't have to believe anyone is scum to be willing to lynch them, because there is noone I can be sure of that is scum.

Is there anyone you wouldn't be willing to lynch?

[Fugitive]

Ok, this day is boooooooring. After looking at vote totals I'm going to:

Vote: Thirdkoopa

ortiz is probably town, and with two competing wagons, which seems to be what we're going for, 3k is my pick. I didn't like his play this game compared to the play I saw in his other town game and overall a gut scum-read. There's like 2-3 people I want lynched before him, but doesn't look like that will happen so I'll place my vote where it does the most.

[el simo]

I don't like el simo's reaction to Olinea's efforts there. Olinea looks like he's legitimately trying to scumhunt. el simo giving him scumpoints because of what the scum in the other game did + the fact that Olinea isn't pushing el simo at all is definitely an overreaction.

What, that doesn't make sense. I'm also trying to scum hunt, I'm using documented evidence about scum and using it as a tell. How come is scum hunting (albeit incorrect) is legitimate but mine isn't?

Do you disagree with my tell?

Then say so and argue that.

Over reaction? Please. It's a legitimate tell.

I'm still ok putting down a 3K hammer at the deadline.

[Zdenek]

Z's last post is good but iirc he didn't say I was scummy for posting 5 times in a row, just that it wasn't helping.

Oops, but my mudslinging accusation still stands.

This comes across as really wrong.

Good to see that ThAdmiral is still mudslinging.

I'd be up for a lynch of CB, Soras, Pie, and I could be convinced to lynch TK because of the wagoning and connections associated with him.

It's nice to know that if Ortiz flips scum, we can lynch Tk's slot the next day.

[ortiz1193]

I don't like el simo's reaction to Olinea's efforts there. Olinea looks like he's legitimately trying to scumhunt. el simo giving him scumpoints because of what the scum in the other game did + the fact that Olinea isn't pushing el simo at all is definitely an overreaction.

What, that doesn't make sense. I'm also trying to scum hunt, I'm using documented evidence about scum and using it as a tell. How come is scum hunting (albeit incorrect) is legitimate but mine isn't?

Do you disagree with my tell?

Then say so and argue that.

Over reaction? Please. It's a legitimate tell.

I'm still ok putting down a 3K hammer at the deadline.

I don't understand your tell then. Olinea went out of his way to find out if that game went like Furcolow said it did, and you came in and said something along the lines of "scum tried to push my wagon in that game, scumpoints for you." Olinea wasn't even casting suspicion on you from what I could tell, and I just don't see where that came from. If I'm misunderstanding the situation tell me, but I don't even see a scumtell there. Your next post tried to explain it but I didn't get it apparently. From my understanding, yes you overreacted to him questioning Furcolow like he was pushing you, which he wasn't.

Also, this is WIFOM, but Olinea looking to another game to validate someone's claims is about as town as it gets.

[Furcolow]

Olinea is confused town, yes. Good, yet confused.
A lot of people felt I replaced out of that game and "left someone with a mess", but I knew half the scumteam and I was getting doctor protection every night. I replaced out because noone had posted in days, or if they had, it was sparse and intermittent.

I agree with El Simo's assessment, for the most part, but I am not sure he is town this time. If I had to pick between keeping him or keeping Olinea, I would choose to keep Olinea.

Olinea has been my strongest town read since chambers.

[Furcolow]

I'm ok with lynching him to prove a point
I only know my alignment

This comes across as really wrong.
Do you think he is scum?

My point is I don't have to believe anyone is scum to be willing to lynch them, because there is noone I can be sure of that is scum.

Is there anyone you wouldn't be willing to lynch?

I wouldn't want to lynch Olinea or BabySpice(although... I might waver on this one due to policy)
p.s. your play is bad, ad

[el simo]

I don't understand your tell then. Olinea went out of his way to find out if that game went like Furcolow said it did, and you came in and said something along the lines of "scum tried to push my wagon in that game, scumpoints for you." Olinea wasn't even casting suspicion on you from what I could tell, and I just don't see where that came from. If I'm misunderstanding the situation tell me, but I don't even see a scumtell there. Your next post tried to explain it but I didn't get it apparently. From my understanding, yes you overreacted to him questioning Furcolow like he was pushing you, which he wasn't.

Also, this is WIFOM, but Olinea looking to another game to validate someone's claims is about as town as it gets.

Scum tried to push my wagon based on my relationship with Furcolow, he is doing the same thing just based on Furcolows relationship with me, it's two sides of the same coin.

And it wasn't an over reaction, I didn't vote him or call him scum or OMGUS or anything, I just saw something and made a note of it.

[sorasgoof]

Okay, I'm sorry, but I'm becoming bored with this game. I need to get myself back into it soon or I'll never will. By tomorrow, I will have a vote for you all (after I look at wagons and such).

[el simo]

Good luck voting all of us at once.

[Baby Spice]

Hey Cyberbob, you still got a question from me pending.

There's a reason I ask.

[ThAdmiral]

Oops, but my mudslinging accusation still stands.

This comes across as really wrong.

Good to see that ThAdmiral is still mudslinging.

p.s. your play is bad, ad

Thanks for the critique