Cyclic Experimentation Set x01 - [Game Over]

[Parama]

Parama is either useless town or scum. In fact I see no reason not to bomb him today.

proof that I am owning scum

[WrathChild]

I passed my ability on.
MoI passed his ability to me. It is clear what ability he had.

Hello mister liar! You do realize that MoI DIED, and so couldn't pass any ability. And did NOT HAVE any ability according to his death. So tell me, how you know you got an ability from MoI please.

This seems pretty significant and should demand explanation.

[StrangerCoug]

I am DEFINITELY voting bunnylover, though, as he claimed an ability he CANT have received from MoI. What, did MoI pass that along from the grave?
VOTE: : bunnylover

MoI = town, died before abilities are passed
bunnylover = claimed to have received an ability from a player who died
bunnylover = troll/scum

lynch lynch lynch

Nice catch. popsofctown, if you have not returned me the bomb, give it to Bunnylover.

VOTE: Bunnylover

[WrathChild]

Parama is either useless town or scum. In fact I see no reason not to bomb him today.

proof that I am owning scum

Haha. Parama you are just mudslinging now. Take a minute and read your own ISO.

[I Am Innocent]

As of Post 949.

LynchMePls - D1 Nothing
RedCoyote
themanhimself - D1, Busdriver Ability, passed it along to Diddin.
Lateralus22

[

TheLonging

]

WrathChild - D1 Nothing
curiouskarmadog
quadz08 - D1, Hibernate Ability, passed it along.
Nero Cain
DarlaBlueEyes

[

Narsis

]

- D1, Firewall Ability, passed it along.
q21
diddin - D1 Dayvig, power taken by themanhimself
popsofctown - D1 Had a Power, passed it along.
Bunnylover

[

SnakePlissken

]

[

danGR

]

- D1 Had a Power, passed it along.
I Am Innocent - D1 Nothing
StrangerCoug

[

UnofficialRulerOfEveryone

]

- D1 Nothing
Parama - D1 Nothing
Implosion - D1 Treestump, passed it to curiouskarmadog
nhammen

[

EtherealCookie

]

- D1 Had a Power, passed it along.
Saint - D1 Had a Power, passed it along.

Dead Players:

muh316 - D1 Watcher (died with him)
AntB - D1 Nothing
Helghast - D1 Nothing
Powerrox93 - D1 Double Voter (died with him
MagnaOfIllusion - D1 Nothing
chkflip - D1 Ability Remover (died with him)

[I Am Innocent]

Five players still need to chime in on their D1 power or lack of power. Please do so ASAP.

Also, I did not see any mention from MOI's post about what to do with players who passed an ability onto a player who died. Is this something we should discuss D2 so we can easily track roles still in the game/not in the void? I am leaning towards yes but I want to make sure I am not missing anything.

[popsofctown]

I am DEFINITELY voting bunnylover, though, as he claimed an ability he CANT have received from MoI. What, did MoI pass that along from the grave?
VOTE: : bunnylover

MoI = town, died before abilities are passed
bunnylover = claimed to have received an ability from a player who died
bunnylover = troll/scum

lynch lynch lynch

Nice catch. popsofctown, if you have not returned me the bomb, give it to Bunnylover.

VOTE: Bunnylover

I caught it to. And I think someone else caught it even earlier.

I want to hear a defense from Bunnylover before he's chosen for the virus, and I also want to make sure we have a consensus. (although I don't understand the reason Bunnylover would tell a lie, LaL has a tendency to hold true. I won't actively oppose Bunnylynch if his defense is poor).

And I think the virus is still on its way to you. Mod hasn't gotten to it I guess.

[WrathChild]

I'd like to hear Bunny's defense, but am, at this point, A OK with his bombing. I think Bunny may have been the SK, a mistake like this probably wouldn't come from the group that ordered the hit on MoI.

[Parama]

Parama is either useless town or scum. In fact I see no reason not to bomb him today.

proof that I am owning scum

Haha. Parama you are just mudslinging now. Take a minute and read your own ISO.

^this is mudslinging

[curiouskarmadog]

CKD's 929 is a bit... heated?

mod

, care to ask him to tone it down? I don't want that directed towards me, and risking myself a modkill, and CKD doesn't like me... so please get him to refrain from the attitude/tone. Thanks!

you know what you can do with this comment right?..I find this an EXTREMELY interesting comment...you and I played in a game before where I was much much worse to you (the comment wasnt even directed at you)...and you didnt say jack that game..just kept calling me scum (incorrectly)...but now you do?...(also Vi is very familiar with my rants, so I doubt he is saying this)..why now are you bringing it up? and it isnt that I dont like you...I dont like you playstyle or lack thereof in the last game we shared...which makes me wonder, why you are so reserved with your opinion and votes this game?

Im fustrated with the game...we havent hit scum, I am still getting people riding my ass based on nothing, and NOW I cant even vote....I dont like to lose.

also, I am pretty tame compared to some people who rage out...if you have a problem with it, perhaps you need to replace out.

[curiouskarmadog]

Five players still need to chime in on their D1 power or lack of power. Please do so ASAP.

Also, I did not see any mention from MOI's post about what to do with players who passed an ability onto a player who died. Is this something we should discuss D2 so we can easily track roles still in the game/not in the void? I am leaning towards yes but I want to make sure I am not missing anything.

also, i didnt have anything D1

[StrangerCoug]

I want to hear a defense from Bunnylover before he's chosen for the virus, and I also want to make sure we have a consensus. (although I don't understand the reason Bunnylover would tell a lie, LaL has a tendency to hold true. I won't actively oppose Bunnylynch if his defense is poor).

And I think the virus is still on its way to you. Mod hasn't gotten to it I guess.

If the virus is coming to me, I'll give it to him. Don't worry about it.

[quadz08]

The reasoning noone is voting me is because the game has a good read on me, I have been scumhunting, and my posting has been beneficial for the town.

As many have said, Bunnylover has some 'splaining to do. SC, please hold off on sending him the virus until he does.

Also, I'm liking nhammen so far. Please, keep it up.

Are we assuming the Shotgun to MoI was Vig and Purge to Chk was Mafia?

I don't think MoI would have been vigged (at least, not by a townie). I think MoI's death is likely the result of the mafia nightkill.

Also, Parama, I agree with the whoever it was earlier to stop pretending that you're Fate. We're not just gonna sheep you and assume you're town/correct. Lose the superiority complex, please.

[popsofctown]

Let's juggle until we're sure Bunnylover is the lynch. Remember Day 1?

I don't know much about Bunnylover, but some players can get very frustrated when they have to defend themselves, I don't want townBunnylover just eating the virus if he gets frustrated.

Furthermore it's possible Bunnylover could die on accident, before we even hear a defense.

I don't like variables.

[Bunnylover]

I am DEFINITELY voting bunnylover, though, as he claimed an ability he CANT have received from MoI. What, did MoI pass that along from the grave?
VOTE: : bunnylover

MoI = town, died before abilities are passed
bunnylover = claimed to have received an ability from a player who died
bunnylover = troll/scum

lynch lynch lynch

Nice catch. popsofctown, if you have not returned me the bomb, give it to Bunnylover.

VOTE: Bunnylover

I caught it to. And I think someone else caught it even earlier.

I want to hear a defense from Bunnylover before he's chosen for the virus, and I also want to make sure we have a consensus. (although I don't understand the reason Bunnylover would tell a lie, LaL has a tendency to hold true. I won't actively oppose Bunnylynch if his defense is poor).

And I think the virus is still on its way to you. Mod hasn't gotten to it I guess.

I really don't have a defense, but here was my line of thought when I posted.
I can not perform a night action, and I actually don't have to pass this ability to anyone else.
The reason I thought MoI passed his ability to me(the one I have right now) is because of two things:
1) I thought their was only 1 VT in this game (got confused with a game I recently joined which only has 1 VT role).
2) Since MoI died and it showed he possessed no abilities, I thought he passed his ability to me, since in my mind, after reading my new role pm, you could pass your VTness.
Bottom line is I forgot that the cycle is Abilities -> Kills -> Cycle Abilities.
I actually have one more reason I thought this, but this would be outting the power I had last night. The reason I haven't just outed out is because I feel if I had thought about it, my first line of thinking is wrong.

Frankly, what disturbs me most about this situation is that Pops points it out, no one gives knowledge to it, and then one other person points it out and several people go, "OMFG NICE CATCH."

[I Am Innocent]

I can not perform a night action, and I actually don't have to pass this ability to anyone else.

Yet someone passed it to you N1?

Does it have any restrictions such as mafia passing it to other mafia?

1) I thought their was only 1 VT in this game (got confused with a game I recently joined which only has 1 VT role).

I looked at your profile and there are way to many threads. So a game like this would have roughly how many pages currently???

2) Since MoI died and it showed he possessed no abilities, I thought he passed his ability to me, since in my mind, after reading my new role pm, you could pass your VTness.

Bottom line is I forgot that the cycle is Abilities -> Kills -> Cycle Abilities.

So then why would chkflp not have passed his power in your mind, yet rather died with it?

I actually have one more reason I thought this, but this would be outting the power I had last night. The reason I haven't just outed out is because I feel if I had thought about it, my first line of thinking is wrong.

Yeah please do not out the power. You hint at a role today though, and you should not be killed without a chance to claim.

[Parama]

Also, Parama, I agree with the whoever it was earlier to stop pretending that you're Fate. We're not just gonna sheep you and assume you're town/correct. Lose the superiority complex, please.

I'm calling OMGUS on this one.

[quadz08]

I'm calling OMGUS on this one.

k.

[StrangerCoug]

I can not perform a night action, and I actually don't have to pass this ability to anyone else.
The reason I thought MoI passed his ability to me(the one I have right now) is because of two things:
1) I thought their was only 1 VT in this game (got confused with a game I recently joined which only has 1 VT role).

So you had your games mixed up. That I can buy, but...

2) Since MoI died and it showed he possessed no abilities, I thought he passed his ability to me, since in my mind, after reading my new role pm, you could pass your VTness.

I'm having trouble making sense of this since you simultaneously count and discount VT as an ability.

Frankly, what disturbs me most about this situation is that Pops points it out, no one gives knowledge to it, and then one other person points it out and several people go, "OMFG NICE CATCH."

You'd be surprised at how reliable slips are for catching Mafia In one game that allowed role PM quoting, I had the claim almost perfect, but gave out the wrong win condition. I tried claiming jester as a get out of hell free card since players could be revived that game and I could fake my reveal, but that didn't work.

[Bunnylover]

@I am Innocent: I'll answer you in order.
1) It does not say anything about scum. The only thing intresting about it is that I have the choice to pass it or not.
2) http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 20&start=0 That is the game I am talking about.
3) If my thought process on MoI was that the ability process happened before the kill, then I must have thought that a person sent Chk their ability. But frankly I don't remember my initial thought process on Chk.

@SC: Also answering you in order.
1) Nothing to add.
2) I can't think of another way to explain it at the moment. MoI ability was a passable VT if that makes anymore sense.
3) lol, I actually thought about doing something like that as a Jester. Role quote my pm, but have the win condition wrong. But the main point I was trying to raise is why did people take notice of the situation when you brought it up, and not when Pops brought it up. That just struck me as odd.

[I Am Innocent]

Skimming through the first page of that game, it looks like the rules say there are

at least one vanilla townie in the game

. A little different from "with a game I recently joined which

only has 1 VT role

".

#3 makes sense, though the wording seems off "then I must have thought that..." Did you forget your original thinking?

[I Am Innocent]

PS - What the heck does this mean? "you could pass your VTness."

[popsofctown]

I really don't have a defense, but here was my line of thought when I posted.
I can not perform a night action, and I actually don't have to pass this ability to anyone else.
The reason I thought MoI passed his ability to me(the one I have right now) is because of two things:
1) I thought their was only 1 VT in this game (got confused with a game I recently joined which only has 1 VT role).
2) Since MoI died and it showed he possessed no abilities, I thought he passed his ability to me, since in my mind, after reading my new role pm, you could pass your VTness.
Bottom line is I forgot that the cycle is Abilities -> Kills -> Cycle Abilities.
I actually have one more reason I thought this, but this would be outting the power I had last night. The reason I haven't just outed out is because I feel if I had thought about it, my first line of thinking is wrong.

Frankly, what disturbs me most about this situation is that Pops points it out, no one gives knowledge to it, and then one other person points it out and several people go, "OMFG NICE CATCH."

DarlaBlueEyes, do you think we should give the virus to this gentleman?

Or should we send it to one of the people more popularly considered scummy, like Wrathchild?

[quadz08]

I know you didn't ask me, but I'm good to give Bunny the virus.

[Bunnylover]

PS - What the heck does this mean? "you could pass your VTness."

Well his role is VT, so I assumed you could pass his role which would be VT.
I know, its weird x_x.