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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:47 pm

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EBWOP: Why the hell is Katsuki even there if she was a not a Lurker?
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:00 pm

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Jack wrote:
RayFrost wrote:Hay Jack, since you're here... how about you tell us your
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@Jack:
Do you think both Kitoari and Guderian are scum?
Jack wrote:
Magua wrote: Nah. My followup will be to ask why something that you consider pro-town would be a bad scum defensive move.
The bad scum defensive move is doing it because they think it looks pro town.
Getting people to answer questions and take positions is the definition of a pro-town conversation.
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Magua wrote:You've seen Katsuki-scum twice, you've been her scum-buddy once. You're really good at reading her. Yet you're more certain about me than about her, and you don't seem to give a rats' ass about getting anyone else to vote her.
She ignored my vote, and hopped onto the Kitoari wagon.
You're hopping onto the Kitoari wagon.

What an awful coincidence.
You somehow fail to address everything that I said in your reply. I could repeat it, but it's quoted right there, so I won't.
VasudeVa wrote:I call bullshit, backtracking scum.
I cannot consider that incredibly long 'Don't Like' list to be your scum list and that 'Can Die in Fire' list as your neutral lurkers + Katsuki list. And besides, who puts neutral lurkers in a 'Can die in a Fire' list when there were plenty of lurkers in the 'Don't Like' list.
Why was Guderian, also a lurker, not in the Neutral lurkers + Katsuki? Why the hell is Katsuki even there if she was a Neutral Lurker?
So then you think the post was "lol the ppl who havent posted at all r the scumz, votepl0x"? A simple "yes" or "no" will do.

Guderian had posted content relevant to this game. Katsuki had not. I even say *in that post* that she had posted, but that none of it was relevant to this game. You quoted it.

I was not aware there was a maximum allowed length to my "Don't Like" list. Upon inspection, I also don't care.
VasudeVa wrote:After your long argument with Katsuki, I cannot see why you two would suddenly hop onto the Kitoari wagon without even raising suspicion to each other. Think that you can get away with that, huh?
My argument with Katsuki is entirely that she should read the game and participate. Feel free to quote anything of mine that says otherwise. Furthermore, feel free to ignore quotes of mine like these that support my point and not yours:
Magua wrote:Man, I really don't like Katsuki's posts. Not in an "obvscumdie" way, but in a "you can't be serious way." Why play a large theme if you're going to complain about 7 pages? Seriously.
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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:14 pm

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Magua wrote:
Jack wrote:
RayFrost wrote:Hay Jack, since you're here... how about you tell us your
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magua
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@Jack:
Do you think both Kitoari and Guderian are scum?
WHAT THE **** ***** IS THIS? ARE YOU JOKING WITH ME?
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Magua wrote: Nah. My followup will be to ask why something that you consider pro-town would be a bad scum defensive move.
The bad scum defensive move is doing it because they think it looks pro town.
Getting people to answer questions and take positions is the definition of a pro-town conversation.
THIS IS WHY YOU PRACTICALLY CLAIMED SCUM

I've seen this garbage before so don't try it. "Someone called me scum, responding this way is pro town so if I do it I can deflect their suspicion". It's transparent. Also, your "getting people to take positions" involves asking me if I think people on my scum list are scum.
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:15 pm

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Are any of your reads here correlated? By this I am asking if the flip of one affects the scum/town position of another.

Also, end stream of posts # <current = previous + 1>

P-edit: Jack made me laugh.
don't you feel silly now?
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:21 pm

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Jack wrote:I've seen this garbage before so don't try it. "Someone called me scum, responding this way is pro town so if I do it I can deflect their suspicion". It's transparent. Also, your "getting people to take positions" involves asking me if I think people on my scum list are scum.
Jack is so Town.
Magua wrote: Yet you're more certain about me than about her, and you don't seem to give a rats' ass about getting anyone else to vote her.
Well DUH. She has yet to react to my initial push on her. (Read: She ignored my vote.).

Plus, your backtracking is scummier. Am I supposed to only go after people I'm confident in reading?
Magua wrote:So then you think the post was "lol the ppl who havent posted at all r the scumz, votepl0x"? A simple "yes" or "no" will do.
Yes. "Can die in A Fire" implies more hate than that long 'Don't like' list therefore it is more understandable to put that short list as the scum list. I think you are backtracking and I won't let you weasel out on this.
Magua wrote:My argument with Katsuki is entirely that she should read the game and participate. Feel free to quote anything of mine that says otherwise. Furthermore, feel free to ignore quotes of mine like these that support my point and not yours
Okay then, I shall gladly ignore them!
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:26 am

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Jack wrote:Magua is probably scum.
Nah, you're wrong on this one.

VV, stop being an obstinate prick, please.

Kitoari Iso...

Lurks, doesn't commit to any reads...

This feels too easy. But he can be lynched anyways, because I'm not gonna catch myself in that bullshit.

Baby Spice Iso...

Looks null to me at the moment. The nagging thing here is the whole "Scum seraph knows who to give powers to" in ISO#5, based on MoHO. I know Sottyrulez had to burn faith to get in touch with us, and they didn't know who they'd be talking to until they were in our QT. Scum generally tend to be more attentive to details in something like that, and considering that's a major cornerstone of the case on Andrius, it strikes me as sloppy and gives me a slightly town-leaning read.


I'd rather Gud be the play today, but Kit can go too.
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:32 am

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Mini Vote Count:

Kitoari (L-1) ~ Equinox, Jack, Nachomamma8, Fate, Katsuki, Furcolow, singersigner, inHimshallibe, Magua

Guderian (L-5) ~
inHimshallibe,
Andrius, Kitoari, mothrax, Empking, AGar
mothrax (L-8) ~ Baby Spice, RayFrost
Jack (L-9) ~ Guderian
Magua (L-9) ~ VasudeVa
AGar (L-10) ~
Magua

Katsuki (L-10) ~
VasudeVa


Not Voting:
AlmasterGM,
Furcolow, singersigner

AGar -1 | AGM 1 | Andrius -1 | BS 1 | Emp 0 | Equi -1 | Fate -1 | Furc -1 PROD1 0 | Gud 2 | inHim -1 | Jack -1 | Kat 0 | Kito -1 | Magua -1 | moth -1 | Nacho -1 | Ray -1 | sinsig -1 | Vas -1

-Kitoari is at L-1!

--With 19 alive, it will take 10 to lynch.

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Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:52 am

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Unvote

Vote: Kit


The wagon seems to be very much a town one, the reasoning is good and I want a quickish lynch.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:41 am

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Vote Count VII:
The fight is on! ...even if you're not
Kitoari (LYNCH) ~ Equinox, Jack, Nachomamma8, Fate, Katsuki, Furcolow, singersigner, inHimshallibe, Magua, Empking

Guderian (L-6) ~ Andrius, Kitoari, mothrax,
Empking,
AGar
mothrax (L-8) ~ Baby Spice, RayFrost
Jack (L-9) ~ Guderian
Magua (L-9) ~ VasudeVa

Not Voting:
AlmasterGM
AGar -1 | AGM 1 | Andrius -1 | BS 1 | Emp -1 | Equi -1 | Fate -1 | Furc -1 PROD1 0 | Gud 2 | inHim -1 | Jack -1 | Kat 0 | Kito -1 | Magua -1 | moth -1 | Nacho -1 | Ray -1 | sinsig -1 | Vas -1

--With 19 alive, it will take 10 to lynch.
---The smell of smoke surrounds Magua as of post 526...


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---- Kitoari ----
Dark Demon
---- Rejected Day 2!








-The remaining battery power was converted!








-The sound of a horn is heard...








---- Equinox ----
Righteous
Doctor
---- Sniped Day 2...








Vote Count VIII:
The war machines keep going

Not Voting:
AGar, AlmasterGM, Andrius, Baby Spice, Empking,
Equinox,
Fate, Furcolow, Guderian, inHimshallibe, Jack, Katsuki,
Kitoari,
Magua, mothrax, Nachomamma8, RayFrost, singersigner, VasudeVa
AGar -1 | AGM 1 | Andrius -1 | BS 1 | Emp -1 | Fate -1 | Furc -1 PROD1 0 | Gud 2 | inHim -1 | Jack -1 | Kat 0 | Magua -1 | moth -1 | Nacho -1 | Ray -1 | sinsig -1 | Vas -1

-It is now Day 3!

--With 17 alive, it will take 9 to lynch.

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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:43 am

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Vote: Gud
Can't say I think much of the Seraph's choice though.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:37 am

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Ouchies. :(
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:48 am

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gg Equinox
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:50 am

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Hmmm. Kito's lynch definitely brings some stuff on the table.

What do you guys think of the smoke on Magua's #526? I'm thinking that ye gods are telling us something.
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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:50 am

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Vote: Magua
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:53 am

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inHimshallibe wrote:
Kitoari wrote:
Guderian wrote:Anyways, back to game material.
Fos
Kitoari

Half his posts/ reads have been entirely non-committal.
I want to vote gude so bad for this post.

But then he shall accuse me of omgus. But if I don't vote then I'm being noncommittal.
Hmm.

VOTE: Guderian
Dear Satan,

I know you're a right clever bastard and would be a fair challenge in a battle against this Town. I mildly regret your chosen minions wear neon spandex and stick out like Reckamonic at an Tea Party meeting.

If you ever want to try again, we've done told you once, you son of a bitch, we're the best there's ever been.

In Him,
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Just to let you guys know, I got a letter in the mail this morning.
Satan wrote: Dear inHim,

:(

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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:56 am

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Actually, taking into account Kit's flip.

Unvote

Vote: RayFrost
- Mothrax? Really, that was where your vote was best placed?
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:57 am

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VasudeVa wrote:Hmmm. Kito's lynch definitely brings some stuff on the table.

What do you guys think of the smoke on Magua's #526? I'm thinking that ye gods are telling us something.
The first stuff brought to the table would be why you weren't on the lynch.

I guess if Magua turns out to be scum, you have a sorta good reason. I GUESS. As for the smoke, was that determined to be a form of communication from the Good Gods in MOHO? I'm not going to go back and read it today, so it'd be cool if someone just said Yes/No.
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:59 am

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inHimshallibe wrote:
VasudeVa wrote:Hmmm. Kito's lynch definitely brings some stuff on the table.

What do you guys think of the smoke on Magua's #526? I'm thinking that ye gods are telling us something.
The first stuff brought to the table would be why you weren't on the lynch.

I guess if Magua turns out to be scum, you have a sorta good reason. I GUESS. As for the smoke, was that determined to be a form of communication from the Good Gods in MOHO? I'm not going to go back and read it today, so it'd be cool if someone just said Yes/No.

In MOHO, the town Seraph could smoke/light a post for free. The scum seraph could also contrbute in that manner but it had a price.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:01 am

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Yes. The seraph at the QT are giving smoke or making stuff glow whenever they dislike or like something. They also do other stuff, like give powers.
Although that could also come from the evil Seraph. But last game, evil Seraphs rarely ever used it because they had a lower faith income.
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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:18 am

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Alright, I'm going to take that as a Town Seraph deal. Don't disagree with it.
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:50 am

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Vote: Magua
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:02 am

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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:12 am

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Still disagree with magua lynch. I believe that he's town and will not budge from this position.

Empking: I could've sworn I had unvoted :x Aside from that, kitoari was extremely close to lynch at a time when I still wanted posts from furcolow/agar to get reads, so why would I vote to end the day when I still wanted info?
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:13 am

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The "angryfaec" should be : x, totally different.

Anyway, end of stream of posts # 13, I think. 2 AM here.
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:24 am

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Jack wrote:
Magua wrote:
Jack wrote:
RayFrost wrote:Hay Jack, since you're here... how about you tell us your
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@Jack:
Do you think both Kitoari and Guderian are scum?
WHAT THE **** ***** IS THIS? ARE YOU JOKING WITH ME?
No, I'm not joking with you. The question is "Are you listing your top suspicions, or are you calling an entire scumteam?"
Jack wrote: I've seen this garbage before so don't try it. "Someone called me scum, responding this way is pro town so if I do it I can deflect their suspicion". It's transparent. Also, your "getting people to take positions" involves asking me if I think people on my scum list are scum.
For instance, especially now with Kitoari flipping scum, I don't think Guderian is scum. I was wondering if you were going to feel similar, or different, which is why I asked.

Other stuff: Glad to see more communication from the Seraphs. This is the town Seraph doing it. Obviously either has a cost now, or is an ability that needed to be bought.
VasudeVa wrote:Plus, your backtracking is scummier. Am I supposed to only go after people I'm confident in reading?
One would assume you *would* go after the people you were confident in reading. By going after me, are you saying you're *less* confident in me? You ignoring everything else I wrote that showed that your quoting was opportunistic is noted.

Anyways, I doubt Guderian is scum. I would like to see him get prodded or replaced.
I read VasudeVa as scum because of the disconnect between him being sure Katsuki is scum, but then turning around voting me.
AGar is scum.
Baby Spice is probably scum.

Interesting differences between Agar's #530:
AGar wrote:Kitoari Iso...

Lurks, doesn't commit to any reads...

This feels too easy. But he can be lynched anyways, because I'm not gonna catch myself in that bullshit.

...


I'd rather Gud be the play today, but Kit can go too.
Which says all of this about how Kitoari can be lynched but doesn't go for it, compared to Empking's #532:
Empking wrote:Unvote

Vote: Kit

The wagon seems to be very much a town one, the reasoning is good and I want a quickish lynch.
Where he doesn't give nearly as much justification, but does actually vote and hammer.

VOTE: AGar

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