Well, it looks like my fate is pretty much sealed. I'm not expecting anyone to change their vote at this point, but I just thought I would address some points anyway.
Pomegranate wrote:
um, it's
RVS
, SO SHUT UP
Yikes! First of all, let me apologize if anything I said offended you. The joke with your name wasn't intended to be personal by any means, and I really am sorry if you took it that way. However, there's no reason to be hostile because I was speculating who might be scum.
DarlaBlueEyes wrote:Noob town /=/ powerful townie. Beyond that I don't like your play at all, and your backtracking explanations don't sit well with me either. I'd have rather your vote sat on Yos than you act like you had some kind of mega-game-winning revelation in which you declare yourself 100% town and everyone else who's enjoying some RVS shenanigans scummy.
I didn't intend my post to be arrogant or to 'act like i had a game winning revelation'. That's why at the bottom I put:
Final Fires wrote:Like I said earlier though, this is my first game of mafia here and I could've made a huge logical fallicy somewhere. But as of now, it seems like that's the best lead that we've got. If anyone else has a better idea, or the people who voted for Yos have a good explanation, I would be glad to change my vote.
Jahudo wrote:Hey Final Fires welcome to the site. A couple of things:
1) Its still really early in Day 1 to call Yos inactive, and he'll most likely show up in a day or so, but if not its the mod's job to prod people that haven't made any posts in 72 hours or so. And this isn't a "BaM ruleset" so flakers would get replaced instead of modkilled.
2) Random Vote Stage (RVS) happens the first few pages to start getting information but its generally accepted that no one would have enough confidence or evidence to lynch someone yet. That usually takes a few weeks and tens of pages of case making and wagon building/falling/switching, etc.
3) Saying you're town, saying you would play scum differently than how you are playing now, saying that people will regret lynching you, or hinting that you may have a night ability generally don't help you. At worst people will scummy and want to lynch you more.
First of all Jahudo, I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this to me. In the forum where I played before, the mafia games worked very differently. The days were 24 hours long, so the need to get a majority quickly was much more urgent, so as a result we didn't have an 'RVS'. Every vote was much more urgent and meaningful - which is why I mistook the three people voting as 'teaming together'. You could also communicate outside of the thread, so revealing your role and powers, as well as claiming your innocence was extremely important if you wanted to stay alive. However I understand now how doing what would've saved me there ended up digging me my own grave over here.
MoreWhisky wrote:Final fires you got to laugh how your reasoning has everyone apart from you who voted for Yos as most probaly the scum, we just started. If the game was a bit older you would have my vote for that.
Yeah, as soon as I voted for yos I regreted it. I just saw a majority doing it and jumped on - but then I realized yos was the only one who had 'randomly' gotten more than one vote. Not a single other person had more than vote. I just assumed this was a team effort, and clumped the three together. It seemed like a logical conclusion at the time. Plus I really wanted to spark conversation and discussion about who could be evil.
DLG wrote:
Final Fires wrote:If you have to lynch me tonight then fine, but afterwards maybe you'll take my accusations seriously.
This is bad reasoning. Even if you
are
town and were lynched right this second, your accusations are not thereby made more accurate (except in that the potential pool of suspects has just been reduced by one player). Town alignment does not equal omnisicience.
Very true. But next round it will at least give you a place to start discussion. Maybe a better way to phrase it would've been "maybe you'll reconsider my accusations". It's true that my accusations are weak, but I don't think you could make a case against anyone that isn't flimsy at this point. No matter what we have to kill someone off, and I realize my evidence is far from perfect, but we have to start somewhere.
Bub Bidderskins wrote:
I get the feeling that he voted Yos and the he looked back on his vote and thought that it looked scummy, so he had to invent a BS reason to unvote.
Wouldn't a long, drawn out post accusing others of being scum look much more scummy than simply voting for yos? My motives weren't to look 'less scummy', but instead point out an observation I made, for what I thought was a better vote.