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As for the bomb cycling, may I suggest that we go in player list order, at least on Day 1?STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Well, if we're going to pass the bomb immediately when we get it at first and we have no information to go on, what's wrong with an order we can remember? Once we get information, then yeah, the most scummy player is the obvious answer, but if the plan is to blow our first two passes, then until someone does something scummy I don't see why we can't go in player list order.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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That's how I interpreted Hoopla's elaboration of hitorogoshi's plan. If I have it wrong, I need it straightened out—I foresaw the unlikelihood of doing player order after Day 1 working well, hence the way I worded my input.AurorusVox wrote:Coug: who said we're wasting the first two* passes? Whoever has the bomb should either pass it to Jack if they support his game, or hold onto it until they see something scummy.
The first two out of three chances.AurorusVox wrote:*by first two, do you mean literally the first two passes, or the first 2/3 chances to pass that we get?STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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As if my contribution to the plan will be of much use anymore anyway.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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You do realize it's still the pregame, right, Fate?
In any event, I don't like your sudden jump on Benmage. #41's funny to me, too, but still...STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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OK, I hate Jack's response to themanhimself. Responding to an attack with a post that basically asks "What the hell are you talking about?" is a cheap way to dismiss it. I say he gets passed the bomb first.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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VOTE: Jack
You dismiss the accusation of softclaiming bomb-related role info as ridiculous, then you actually claim bomb-related role info. I don't buy this.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I hate to do this twice in close succession, but the problem I complained about regarding not feeling well has gotten worse. I have a fever.
Mod: V/LA again.
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Still sick; just throwing in some quick thoughts.
danakillsu's WIFOM doesn't look good, but I'm a stronger supporter of the Jack wagon. Jack denied as ridiculous and then claimed bomb info. Lynch all liars.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I don't see the problem with what I'm doing, nor do I see how Nobody Special is scummy. Way to fail.Jack wrote:vote:Nobody Special
For his last post.
Someone explain to Coug et al how mafia works.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I'm resisting the temptation to gloat right now. Jack wasSOobvscum that he got what he deserved.
Six pages isn't much to look at to get reactions, but "sociopathic" being the Mafia name makes the most sense to me as "sociopathic goon" is not in the Wiki. This suggests a multiball to me.
danakillsu screams like Jack's buddy right now. That he ignored Fate's bandwagon vote in favor of Katsuki's is an interaction I'm trying to figure out right now, but I'm lead to believe that it's dana-scum buddying up to Fate-town. I don't see anything scummy out of Fate.
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I was about to ask about what the pileup about themanhimself was about, but one, I think it takes more than two people to pile up on someone, and two, the reckless hammer on danakillsu when I realized it happened is probably why and I would agree with this thinking.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I'm going to have to agree with Fate here. Hoopla does not make sense as a vig target; I didn't find her scummy in the least. I agree that Mafia and SK is most likely.AurorusVox wrote:Also, one of those kills could be a vig (presumably Hoopla, since it was a shooting, and since stabby seems to coincide with "sociopathic"?)
VOTE: KatsukiKatsuki wrote:Fate wrote:Because you'reISOstomach is so EMPTY that there's nothing in there but acid.
SCUMBAG
Try again.
If you want to be a smart-aleck, take it elsewhere. Don't dismiss people calling you scum as a joke.
themanhimself's sloppy hammer hasn't been forgotten.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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The hell? Why do you want the vig outed?Benmage wrote:Oh and for what it's worth I'm thinking scum team is 3 and we have an SK.
***If there is a vig. Claim so Now.
That's not true. I've modded a game where a vig has stabbed, and I have modded a game where a Mafioso has stabbed. It's common for a stabbing MO to go to an SK, but it is not exclusive to the role.themanhimself wrote:Stabbed is always an SK.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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So youBenmage wrote:
No vig would've killed either hoopla nor CES. WIthout damn fucking good reasoning. And I'd want to hear it now. Otherwise there will be no accepted claim later.StrangerCoug wrote:
The hell? Why do you want the vig outed?Benmage wrote:Oh and for what it's worth I'm thinking scum team is 3 and we have an SK.
***If there is a vig. Claim so Now.REALLYthink the benefits of not only outing the vig but also ostracizing him or her outweigh the drawbacks of painting a nightkill target on him, which might as well be a lynch target if the actual vig claims and doesn't explain Hoopla or Cogito Ergo Sum dying to your liking. I don't believe this one bit.
This is weird reasoning. Effectively OMGUSing Benmage and passing the bomb to Fate because you trust him with it? I don't get it.AntB wrote:benmage because he passed it to me, fate because it was my last pass and I will let someone who (theoretically) knows what they're doing decide if I'm going to be bombed or not.
I'm going to wait for the bomb to go off before taking a stance either way. AntB claimed a confirmable role.
You corrected hitorogoshi to Katsuki, but what about the other two of us?Nobody Special wrote:StrangerCoug, Fate, hito
It's possible for a bomb to go off at night, which points towards him being right. The way the mod answered one of Fate's questions points toward a time-count and not a post-count as well.Nobody Special wrote:
And, I read over it TOO and there can't be any way you could get that from anything publicly mentioned.themanhimself wrote:I read over it and I'm pretty sure that its time based
FoS: themanhimself
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I don't believe that now is the time to out the vig. Yes, if either of them were killed by a vig, then the person that did it is an idiot, but do we really want to risk making someone an easy mislynch or nightkill target?Benmage wrote:What don't you believe buddy?STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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OK, the line of thinking makes sense.
VOTE: Nobody Special. How does themanhimself saying that the explosions are time-based get proven wrong by you quoting the mod saying "explosion times are set"?STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Wrong in arguing a moot point, maybe, but that does not excuse you from attacking themanhimself from stating how he got what he got.Nobody Special wrote:
I only meant that we were both wrong in arguing a moot point. What is this, the Spanish Inquisition?StrangerCoug wrote:OK, the line of thinking makes sense.
VOTE: Nobody Special. How does themanhimself saying that the explosions are time-based get proven wrong by you quoting the mod saying "explosion times are set"?
FATE.Fate wrote:themanhimself wrote:Are you kidding me NS?
This and the fact that he never says post countRedCoyote wrote:I'll set up specifictimesbefore the game starts which will be explosiontimes. Any player who has a bomb in their possession when the explosiontimehits will be killed. Thetimeswill be preset within the context of a game playing until the maximum allottedtime(it's important to me that the players don't think this is just the Mod influencing the game, I plan to literally draw up all the explosiontimesbefore the game even begins).andthe fact that bombs can go off at night pretty definitively rule out post count detonation as a plausible theory.
VOTE: Nobody Special for FoS'ing me and misrepping me over something he clearly didn't read or think through and for trying to lead the town astray with obviously false theories.
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YOURE BETTER THAN THIS. YOU KNOW NOT TO FUCKIN VOTE NS AFTER A SHITPOST LIKE THAT.
O WAIT UR TOWN SC, THAT MEANS YOU ARENT BETTER THAN THIS?
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YOU'RE BETTER THAN THIS. YOU KNOW NOT TO CONFUSE ME WITH THEMANHIMSELF... whom I don't really like. Something screams IIoA to me.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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xD Apparently, it's hidden pretty well.themanhimself wrote:Took me a minute to find the cougar in there but I see it now
But we're going off on a tangent. I find it weird that Fate's defending Katsuki when he claims she has no content, but for there to be a connection, the game had to have started 10:2:2 and that's really the only thing off on Fate right now. Fate is almost certainly not Jack's scumbuddy.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I'm straining to see why it's necessary to massclaim this early.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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If it helps town more than scum, we might as well. I say Nobody Special goes first.hitogoroshi wrote:
Because we have the (hopeful!) potential to get multiple kills in while under maximal influence from townies. With PR's that scum cannot justify passing to, the bomb threatens them more. And we get a lynch directed by our PRs. It's also the schooling-fish principle. There will probably be at least one person the scum really really want dead (AntB if he's confirmed PR and likely town, Fate or myself if we're even close to right) so we may as well have all of our claims at once because they can't kill us all at once. We want to rush this game down today.SC wrote:I'm straining to see why it's necessary to massclaim this early.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Are you Nobody Special? *headdesk*Benmage wrote:You know what... yeah...I'm a VT, and I'm not advocating the mass claim until the next boom.
You don't want a massclaim before the bomb goes off, yet you throw out a vanilla townie claim unprovoked.Benmage wrote:Read the following sentences and you'll have your answer...(hint hint: I want to wait for the next bomb to blow before massclaiming)
UNVOTE: Nobody Special
VOTE: Benmage
Well, claiming VT is going to help scum narrow the power roles down.Benmage wrote:Read the next post to fully understand.....(hint hint: I want to not out our PRs)
What relevance does this have to scumhunting?Benmage wrote:MODhave you ever run a theme game before, if so which one?
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If I'm doing a good job of rereading, only themanhimself and hitorogoshi were playing with the idea of massclaiming before I caved in support of it. Two ≠ many.Benmage wrote:I didn't encourage claims. I tried to illustrate the idiocy of the massclaim and that it will achieve nothing. And I claimed to demonstarte that I had nothing to hide. How can you say I encouraged claims when the whole time I was the only one in opposition to the massclaim. Sure SC didn't understand why many wanted to massclaim. But he sheeped when the idea of breaking the game was suggested.
Did you forget that there's such a thing as bussing?Benmage wrote:Did you forget that I blew scum up?
I voted you because you claimed VT without any sort of pressure, yet were supposedly against massclaiming. The bit about asking the mod if he's run a theme game before came later.Benmage wrote:
The second question was the better one... I should've just asked that. Safeclaims are a commonality these days. Especially in creative theme games. I wanted to know if this mod followed that trend. I HIGHLY doubted a game was gonna be broken on flavor. I almost always consider flavor as just fluff.StrangerCoug wrote:
What relevance does this have to scumhunting?Benmage wrote:MODhave you ever run a theme game before, if so which one?
Now, StrangerCoug please restate why you like your vote on
I haven't yet. I'm Police Commissioner Robert Ferrell, vanilla townie.hitogoroshi wrote:Awesome.
Has everyone but Fate claimed? This is last chance for checksums time.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I don't like Benmage's trying to use the fact that he passed the bomb to Jack as a get out of jail free card, so I understand how you came to that conclusion.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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You and themanhimself. Nobody stands out as SK to me.Benmage wrote:InfactSC, lets hear your top 2 scum suspects and potential SK.
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I don't try to predict scum. I do sometimes take a step back and think "OK, it'd be ridiculous if they're doing this," but something has to obviate two people as not being buddies. Maybe I'm wrong about you bussing Jack and you and themanhimself, in fact, comprise the other team. I believe most of us including you think it's 10:3:1, but it could also be 10:2:2.Benmage wrote:
So after losing Jack so early...bussing seems like the best strategy....You???StrangerCoug wrote:
You and themanhimself.Benmage wrote:InfactSC, lets hear your top 2 scum suspects and potential SK.
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I have nothing new to say. If something comes up, then I'll comment, but nothing had since my last post with content.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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AntB's role confirmation and your refusal to claim are both null reads. As for the bomb passes, Katsuki passing it to youISweird on reread. He did declare V/LA, but why did he pass it to you specifically?STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Nothing of interesthitogoroshi wrote:StrangerCoug: Scum-flavored-null. Been out of thread with V/LA's a lot but has never really 'caught up', his recent posts saying there's nothing of interest are the BADDEST OF NEWS BEARS.SINCE I HAD LAST POSTED.Get it straight.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Then why aren't you voting me?Fate wrote:HOLY SHIT YOURE THE LYNCH TODAY GOODNIGHT
Thanks for clearing themanhimself. My vote's not going anywhere.Benmage wrote:And in starting to care less and less what PM tmh even got. That VI needs to go.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Fate had accused me of not providing content when I declared myself out of V/LA, so I misinterpreted him as talking to me instead of AntB.AntB wrote:@SC
Where/how did you get Fate was talking to you?
Benmage wrote:pass bomb to themanhimself
Hey strangercoug I am even more confident tmh is town. I'd call you a douche but I think your only fallacy is a wrong role pm the game.
Prepare to die.Benmage wrote:Yeppass bomb to themanhimselfgood riddance you blow.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Nobody Special can eat rope in my opinion too, but Benmage is confirmed scum if you ask me. That's pretty much why I'm voting him.hitogoroshi wrote:Yeah, we're lynching NS today. After the bomb, though.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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OK, Benmage has gone completely insane. I'm a little less certain that themanhimself is scum, but it cannot be discounted—there were two deaths last night. Fate's recent comments make sense to me if he thinks BM and TMH are opposing scum, and BM has been tossed around as a serial killer suspect.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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How so? I'm very wary of meta cases.Benmage wrote:Personal Meta. I've played alot of games with him and I'm getting much better at reading him. Moreover my reads are usually way more on point than most.
He's playing to his scum Meta if you ask me. If I was master of the bomb I'd be orchestrating this shit.......where's he been?STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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This is counter-intuitive to me. Why would leaving the serial killer aliveFate wrote:Hopefully we have enough mislynches. Thats also why we need the SK aliveINCREASEthe number of mislynches we can afford?STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I could just as easily turn this around on you. Assume I care about you giving a proper case on SpyreX for a few seconds and do it.Benmage wrote:SC what's it matter your hell bent confirmed on me being scum. And wary...yeah I'm gonna strain myself to appease someone not with the town.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I'd start spewing out theory, but I'm going to leave it to asking you to demonstrate the scum motivation for what he's done here.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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This is contradictory.Benmage wrote:As scum he's strategicly posting waiting posting... he has no need to press buttons or make pushes because he's town.
I asked a simple, legitimate question. There is no need to bite my head off.Benmage wrote:You don't know of the scum motivation to not force conversation??? Come now SC we all know you're better than that atleast pretend to look town.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Oh.Benmage wrote:SC post 655....I think that last post was still at the ski lodge mid booze mid song.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Is it really pro-town either way?AurorusVox wrote:Eh, I'm specifically not rolefishing you. I don't care what role you have, and I don't think you should claim it. But you earlier said you had a Bomb related PR and I want to determine whether this post was a joke or not.Major HoS. I'd vote you if Benmage weren't confirmed scum.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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YOU DON'T STICK SOMEBODY YOU THINK IS TOWN WITH THE BOMB.That's the nail in the coffin for me.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I don't want to hear it and I don't give a damn about your meta. Killing people you're pretty sure are town helps only the scum. That, in my mind, confirms you.
If you'd like to hear why else you're scum, at #402 you claim that we should wait until the bomb goes off on AntB before massclaiming, which happens at post #557. You claim at post #409, without any sort of pressure on you. You contradicted yourself pretty damn quickly.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Right, let's see. Who's the towniest person in this game? ...Fate's posts look like solid town to me.Benmage wrote:
Right. You've got nothing. You're going to convince noone to lynch me. You're scum. Check.StrangerCoug wrote:I don't want to hear it and I don't give a damn about your meta. Killing people you're pretty sure are town helps only the scum. That, in my mind, confirms you.
UNVOTE: Benmage
VOTE: Fate
*goes up in scumminess*
I thought I'd get that reaction.
UNVOTE: Fate
VOTE: Benmage
You can deny that my case exists all you want to, but it's there, and I'm sold on you being scum. With no return policy.
Protecting the power roles ≠ narrowing down who could have one. If you're town, which I am 100% sure you're not, then again, you've helped scum.Benmage wrote:
To demonstrate that I wasn't scum scrambling to hide something as I was the only voice of opposition..it is very easy to recognize this simple, logical answer 1 VT claim is nothing when my point was to protect PRs....StrangerCoug wrote: If you'd like to hear why else you're scum, at #402 you claim that we should wait until the bomb goes off on AntB before massclaiming, which happens at post #557. You claim at post #409, without any sort of pressure on you. You contradicted yourself pretty damn quickly.
You couldn't think of a good power role and didn't want to be counterclaimed, most likely, but claiming is not itself scummy. In context of you opposing the massclaim, though, your doing so without being asked is contradictory. Who are the most likely to contradict themselves? Scum.Benmage wrote:WHAT WAS THE SCUM MOTIVATION TO MY EARLY CLAIM?!?!?!?STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Show me where. From what I can find in his ISO, hito has questioned your choice of sticking themanhimself with the bomb, as I have, and said nothing either way about your contradictory stance regarding massclaim.Benmage wrote:
You somehow think X, the answer is Y. Hito saw it instantly.StrangerCoug wrote:
You couldn't think of a good power role and didn't want to be counterclaimed, most likely, but claiming is not itself scummy. In context of you opposing the massclaim, though, your doing so without being asked is contradictory. Who are the most likely to contradict themselves? Scum.Benmage wrote:WHAT WAS THE SCUM MOTIVATION TO MY EARLY CLAIM?!?!?!?
Neither are you.Benmage wrote:You're going to convince noone anyways.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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OK, but sticking themanhimself, whom, according to you is town, with the bomb still stands.Benmage wrote:StrangerCoug wrote:
Show me where. From what I can find in his ISO, hito has questioned your choice of sticking themanhimself with the bomb, as I have, and said nothing either way about your contradictory stance regarding massclaim.Benmage wrote:
You somehow think X, the answer is Y. Hito saw it instantly.StrangerCoug wrote:
You couldn't think of a good power role and didn't want to be counterclaimed, most likely, but claiming is not itself scummy. In context of you opposing the massclaim, though, your doing so without being asked is contradictory. Who are the most likely to contradict themselves? Scum.Benmage wrote:WHAT WAS THE SCUM MOTIVATION TO MY EARLY CLAIM?!?!?!?hitogoroshi wrote:
Presumably to prove he's not advocating delay just so scum can make a more informed fakeclaim.TMH wrote:Why say you don't advocate claiming and then claim in the same sentence?STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Again, I don't give a damn about your meta. If you want me to reconsider my vote this far away from deadling, I want a town motivation for what you did in your next post. No WIFOM games, no fancy tricks, just why it's protown to kill people you think are town. Because I can think ofBenmage wrote:
Which I've proven I've done as town.StrangerCoug wrote: OK, but sticking themanhimself, whom, according to you is town, with the bomb still stands.
Which noone can sit here and logically think any scum has the balls to pull off something like that....I'd like to think I could, I didn't/haven't ever been that badass. I'm glad you hold me highly enough to think so.EVERYway it helps scum. What you did makes me less confident of TMH-scum, but in any event, if you are both the same alignment, especially both town, I am going to jump off the Sears Tower.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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AurorosVox doesn't sit completely well with me. He can't go "Oh, I wasn't rolefishing" after trying to get you to fullclaim.Fate wrote:WOULD YOU STOP FUCKING POSTING TO EACHOTHER.
STRANGER, WHAT IS YOUR VIEW ON AV ON MY DESK 4MINS GO.
A policy bomb, the close cousin (here) to the policy lynch. I'm not fond of policy lynches except Lynch All Liars (and I have exceptions for evenFate wrote:HE WANTED TO GET RID OF TMH BECAUSE TMH IS A LIABILITY. THIS IS PRO-TOWN BECAUSE TOWN IS BETTER OFF WITHOUT SHIT PLAYERS LIKE TMH.THAT).
I'm still considering TMH-scum, but why theFate wrote:THE BONUS IS THAT TMH COULD VERY WELL BE SCUM ALSO, AS BEN KNOWS HIS OWN WEAK SPOT IN SCUMHUNTING IS TERRIBLE PLAYERS.HELLdid he announce a town read on him just before?
Sorry, but you are not king of the world. Unless you know this is 12:2 and you have a guilty on AurorusVox, other options are available.Fate wrote:NOW I'LL HAVE NO MORE NON-AV-CENTERED POSTS.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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If it's any consolation, if themanhimself and Benmage are both town, you can push me off the Sears Tower. I'm not relenting on Benmage.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Sorry—misunderstood what you wanted from Fate. I still think it's scummy to ask if he is a power role, however.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I said no WIFOM games. Don't believe that it's possible for scum to do what you just did? Here how I came to this conclusion, point by point.Benmage wrote:SC can stamp his feet in the sight of town precedents because he has nothing else to go on. He can say he doesn't like policy lynches personally, but that's subjective and of no reflection to me/my alignment (see my opinion on them). He still can't justify it as a logical scum move, because no scum would do what I did.
- Unless we have crazy third party roles such as jester, lyncher, etc. you win by wiping out everybody not aligned with you.
- Scum wins by wiping out the town (and enough opposing scum if any exist, but let's not get too complicated). Therefore, killing town is the best thing for them to do.
- The more townies that are dead, the closer town is to winning.
- Therefore, advocating the death of someone you believe is town is scummy.
- Normally, the way people kill people in the day is by lynching them. That requires a majority. BUT...
- You gave themanhimself, who had no passes left, the bomb. That means unless a lynch happens or SpyreX defuses the bomb, he's screwed. You don't HAVEto get a majority agreement to do that, therefore, in theory, you need to convince fewer people that themanhimself is scum. (In practice, getting a lot of people to believe your case is still a good idea.)
- Since you needed to convince fewer people to convince that themanhimself is scum, it's the next best way for town to get a town death with minimal effort. The last time I checked, zero counts as "fewer" since a Mafia game requires at least three players to run and two would be a majority in that case.
Ah, yes. I remember that game. The possibility that I was scum was tossed around, and not just with you. But guess what? Not enough people were able to agree on this, and I made it out alive. It may have come to a surprise to me, but still, I enjoyed the victory. Part of being town requires convincing other people that you caught scum. Fate thinks you and I are having a pissing contest; hitorogoshi appears to be able to go either way on you while it isn't clear what he thinks of my part of this exchange (the last I remember though, he's leaning scum on me); other people's reads on us are not coming to mind right now. It's apparently lose-lose, but we have demonstrated that we are hell-bent on getting the other lynched, so surely more people will chime in, and one of us will get what we want.Benmage wrote:He's playing dumb here, which is a telltale sign that SC is scum, just like I nailed him hard in a previous game.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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You asked for itFate wrote:Stranger, I think NS is probtown if AV flips scum.
I'll be passing the first bomb I get to NS tomorrow after AV flips scum.
Now call us BOTH scum, or shut the fuck up.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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Heh. Now that I've cooled down, I don't feel compelled to gun Benmage like mad. Not 100% sure why Fate wants me to tie him to him (although heDIDanswer a question I asked BM for him), so I'm going to lay off him for now. This does not mean, however, that my eye is off him—both him and Fate are under close watch.
UNVOTE: Benmage
VOTE: AurorusVox
Scum does not need to know if Fate is a power role or not.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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