Blackest Night Mafia (GAME OVER!)

[Andrius]

Kublai Khan, did you shoot dramonic N1?

[Toogeloo]

Fate cleared KK on Day 2 I though. He obviously didn't shoot anyone.

[Kublai Khan]

Kublai Khan, did you shoot dramonic N1?

Uh.. No.

[Andrius]

I know, I was just testing a tinfoil.
You didn't happen to shoot either Vi or Reck did you?
/bear with me

[Kdub]

While we're waiting for xvart to answer my question, I've got another line of inquiry.

Magna, in your first post of D2 (post 1131), why do you vote nopoint while saying very little about Katsuki, despite the fact that there was strong evidence against both of them at the time? In fact, I would argue that the evidence against Katsuki (claimed result by confirmed town-Starbuck) was even stronger. I felt that your vote here stands out because the two wagons were both viable at this point, yet you are trying to push nopoint as the lynch over someone who we now know is scum. It may turn out that nopoint is scum as well, but the point still holds as long as he is not yellow.

For similar reasons, tans and Dekes probably are not yellow scum because they quickly shifted the vote lead back to Katsuki right after that. Given Guderian's behavior toward tans on D1 in addition to this, tans is probably not mafia. Again, this is contingent on nopoint not being yellow scum.

[Andrius]

I agree with Kdub's line of thinking. tanny is probably town.

[danakillsu]

Fritzler has declined to play. Kitoari will be replacing into that slot instead.

[Dekes]

While we're waiting for xvart to answer my question, I've got another line of inquiry.

Magna, in your first post of D2 (post 1131), why do you vote nopoint while saying very little about Katsuki, despite the fact that there was strong evidence against both of them at the time? In fact, I would argue that the evidence against Katsuki (claimed result by confirmed town-Starbuck) was even stronger. I felt that your vote here stands out because the two wagons were both viable at this point, yet you are trying to push nopoint as the lynch over someone who we now know is scum. It may turn out that nopoint is scum as well, but the point still holds as long as he is not yellow.

To elaborate on this one:

On D3 MoI completely ignored the guilty on xvart, only asking him to clarify whether he got watched by Katsuki or not.
He was going after NoPoint instead.
If xvart is flipping yellow I think there's a great case on MoI being yellow as well.

To answer MoI's question:
I remembered there being a greater fuss being made about Vi's death flavor. But upon reskimming D2 all I could find was Plum hinting at Vi being evil and you speculating Vi being the yellow kill. So, the speculation of Vi being yellow apparently was only in my notes.


By the by, on D1 I started the Gud wagon when nobody else wanted to and I asked triple voter Reck to move his votes to Gud when there was a Starbuck wagon (and I think a SensFan wagon) going on, so I'd like to get some non red-scum credit there.

*wonders whether Fritzler refused to take over that particular slot or refused to replace into this game at all*

[The Stove]

Catchup of Great Justice!

Real life kinda blew up for me too in that all the action happened while I was at work. D:

Agree with Papa Zito about the NPIAU-SK theory. However, I'm willing to satiate the SpyreX call to hold off on things for now.

More along that thought - NPIAU claims to have immunity from night actions. Spy claims a N1 result (emphasized by him). Does not compute.

Xvart claims Blue Lantern now too.

Kdub - xvart claimed VT.

2. Red would not be killing Dram so that left Reck as the Red kill.

Starbuck confirmed Reck died by way of attempting to recruit Katsuki.

Like the recent activity by Dekes.

It it probably already garnered, but there is no fucking way possible that Xvart and NPIAU are scum together. Every vote on Xvart is matched with a vote on NPIAU almost immediately. Suspect a lot of opposite scum influence on each.

Also, I'm gonna guess xvart to be yellow. The NPIAU wagon is being fueled way too easily with 2 red scum dead.

Gonna try and put together a list of what we know about the NKs, because I feel like this can weed out some of the inconsistencies, and I'm leaning scummy on MoI right now.

VOTE: xvart

Gonna put this down until I get more input from Zito, but that looks like the best course of action now.

-AGar

[xvart]

Hey Andrius.. When did SpyreX get confirmed as town?

This is a good question. SpyreX has claimed nothing other than mysterious night action decoding, which could simply be him latching on to Kdub's false positive from yesterday. I can't imagine that him, Kdub, and Starbuck all having roles that can determine alignment, especially considering Starbuck was in a mason group. That seems highly over powered with Reck and Starbuck sharing a mason group where they could share results in the event Starbuck died.

Last question xvart: what is your full role name (name+role)?

Sister Sercy, a Red Immune Operative.

@ xvart: So you're Bulletproof to Red Lanterns, right?

Well yes, and all red actions. I assume, for example, that if there is a red tracker and he/she tracks me it will return "failed" or "no result". My ring negates red powers.

I don't want to out any of your information so don't answer if you think it is going to be detrimental, but can you lose your powers other than losing your ring?

The claim seems kind of dumb to me regardless. How can a person claim VT and then turn around and say they are Untargetable against Red?

Really? That's a terrible observation since allusion to VT and my abilities were in the same sentence. I said I was a VT in terms of active abilities and then stated my passive abilities. I was basically saying "I am basically a VT so if your evidence suggests otherwise you need to reconsider". Seriously, I'm being as patient as possible with these claims and not demanding more information and trying not to out abilities but this is just a poor comment.

On D3 MoI completely ignored the guilty on xvart, only asking him to clarify whether he got watched by Katsuki or not.
He was going after NoPoint instead.

What guilty? The only thing Kdub said yesterday was "xvart is scum" after I said nothing interesting happened to me the previous night. That equates to a guilty in your opinion how? What do you suppose is the result that Kdub has on me when a cop has flipped? What do you think SpyreX has on me?

And, if my lynch is going to go down regardless, I would appreciate the chance to reveal the thing I am withholding as it will be beneficial for future town use and consideration for setup speculation.

[Dekes]

On D3 MoI completely ignored the guilty on xvart, only asking him to clarify whether he got watched by Katsuki or not.
He was going after NoPoint instead.

What guilty? The only thing Kdub said yesterday was "xvart is scum" after I said nothing interesting happened to me the previous night. That equates to a guilty in your opinion how? What do you suppose is the result that Kdub has on me when a cop has flipped? What do you think SpyreX has on me?

Me having a town read on SpyreX, him claiming having a connection with KduB who in turn claimed a guilty on you which is backed up by Spyrex, plus, the way you handled the initial situation back in #1277 is enough for me.
I don't know what they got on you but they better not tell. I don't find it hard at all to believe in more than one investigative role, especially in a game with three scum sections. And even if they're not cops, there are other ways of finding scum like tracking and watching for example.

If you flip town, which I don't think, they have either damn good explaining to do tomorrow or are going to face serious rope issues.

Also, why did you think you were busdroven (this just can't a word) by Vi?

I honestly have no idea whether Vi switched himself with Andy or xvart or if he switched other people for whatever purposes. And I don't even want to think about it because afaik we haven't got the slightest hint what Vi did N1 and if it could help us find any scum.

[Kdub]

Well, there's not much xvart could have said that would have changed my mind, but just in case people wanted further non-secret power reasons to think he is scum, check out his role flavor in post 1312.

I did a google search on his claimed character name, and here's the first link that came up: http://www.comicvine.com/sister-sercy/29-61570/

Pretty much everything in his flavor description can be found in that link.

[Kublai Khan]

I know, I was just testing a tinfoil.
You didn't happen to shoot either Vi or Reck did you?
/bear with me

No..

I'm not responsible for anyone death's in this game.

[Andrius]

Ok.
Then tinfoil is out.
I just wanted to make sure that Fate was a gunsmith in the sense he CHECKED for guns, not GAVE them to people.

This is a good question. SpyreX has claimed nothing other than mysterious night action decoding, which could simply be him latching on to Kdub's false positive from yesterday. I can't imagine that him, Kdub, and Starbuck all having roles that can determine alignment, especially considering Starbuck was in a mason group. That seems highly over powered with Reck and Starbuck sharing a mason group where they could share results in the event Starbuck died.

I can't explain why without me claiming more role-related info. So I'd rather not. Suffice to say that he is town and I highly doubt him being the SK.

Well yes, and all red actions. I assume, for example, that if there is a red tracker and he/she tracks me it will return "failed" or "no result". My ring negates red powers.

I don't want to out any of your information so don't answer if you think it is going to be detrimental, but can you lose your powers other than losing your ring?

Makes sense.

I'm not sure? Role PM hints at being able to lose my ring but I'm not entirely sure what else you're alluding to...

[SpyreX]

Nopoint is, at minimum, untargetable.

If, again, the time comes he has to go it comes.

However, that time is not today.

[quote=""KK"]
Hey Andrius.. When did SpyreX get confirmed as town?[/quote]

You know what my favorite part of this is?

Asking Andy who is town via 'shared' information between Kdub and I how I got confirmed town.

I'm not 'confirmed' but the hell I need to be now. When that time comes, I will either be all kinds of confirmed OR dead. Either way.

More along that thought - NPIAU claims to have immunity from night actions. Spy claims a N1 result (emphasized by him). Does not compute.

No. I've been very technical with my terms but if it stops it I'll make it clear as day:

My target on NP was immediately bounced back with a no-result. Which, in my field, could me a few things. The hider part pretty much has to be true.

And, when combined with hiding behind Vi (A truly silly claim from scum that ALMOST got him lynched) it sure makes me think town.

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And again with the xvart "vanilla but not really":

I said I'd take the bullet if it came to it.

If he was ACTUALLY a VT this would be a pretty good trade.

Yet, weasel weasel says the weasel.

[Andrius]

I think you're confirmed town, Spy.

[SpyreX]

Ohh I'm town but I'm not 'confirmed'.

But that doesn't change the shakiest of grounds some would tread

[Andrius]

Ok, evidentially I'm not voting xvart.

Unvote, Vote: xvart

[SpyreX]

Is there anything else awesome we need today?

Or hath the battle lines been drawn enough to get the party started.

@KDub: No matter what, do NOT target me tonight. I doubt you would, but you know.

[Andrius]

I don't think so.
Perhaps something from SensFan's replacement.

I should contemplate my night action..

[Kdub]

I'm still waiting for Magna to respond to my post, plus I think Kast was going to post something. We should probably hear something from Kitoari before we end the day as well.

If nobody else has anything important to bring up, then I think we can proceed with lynching xvart once those things have happened.

[Andrius]

Yeah, we should probably wait for Kast too.

[SpyreX]

Aight I'm good.

Kdubs things should happen.

(The simple fact I keep forgetting Kast is HERE is a bad, bad sign)

[Andrius]

Ok, I'm ready for the night.
Waiting on Kast and Kit.
Stove wouldn't be a bad wait either, since Starbuck confirmed him.

[tanstalas]

Stove posted.

I'm willing to switch to Xvart and put my trust in you guys after Kit and Kast post