Not voting [5] - Andrius, Jack, Kublai Khan, SensFan, Stephoscope
Was the end of day vote count correct? Toogloo is not listed, Andrius is listed as non-voting, and if it is correct it seems to imply I had a double vote. From end of day events, it would seem like Andy should be the 11th vote, and Toogloo should be still voting SensFan.
Spoiler: Claims (including Soft ones):
– SpyreX: ???,
Blue
Lantern, similar abilities as Andrius (similar enough to confirm)
N1:
[Targeted] NPIAU (result = failed)
N2:
Gave Andrius 1-Shot Mandatory Vig
Spyrex ability confirms him as Blue/Town to Andrius.
– Kublai Khan: ???
N1:
May have been gunsmithed by Fate
If he was gunsmithed, then he is SK/Not Mafia/Not Cop/...Not Gun Owner
– nopointinactingup: John Stewart,
Green
Lantern, Hider
N1:
Hid behind Vi. [Targeted] by Spyrex (Result = Failed).
N2:
Hid behind ???. [Targeted] by Andy (Result = Failed).
NPIAU living when Vi died indicates he is lying. NPIAU's reaction to Spyrex initially indicated NPIAU was scum, but Spyrex has since changed his mind. Katsuki's watch of Andy indicates Vi did not bus Andy AND Vi. NPIAU's reaction to Andy indicates he is lying.
– Kdub: ??? with ability similar to Spyrex.
N1:
[Targeted] xvart.
N2:
???
xvart's reaction to Kdub indicates xvart is lying.
– The Stove: ???
Starbuck's investigation indicates The Stove is either Town OR Investigation Immune.
– xvart: Sister Sercy,
Blue
Lantern,
Red
Immune
N1:
Did not get anything from Kdub.
N2:
Did not get anything from Andy.
Reaction to Kdub indicates xvart is lying.
– Andrius: ???,
Blue
Lantern, similar abilities as Spyrex (similar enough to confirm)
If he was gunsmithed, then he is Not SK/Mafia/Cop/...Gun Owner
Spoiler: Confirmed players & Actions:
– Guderian - Atrocitus, Investigation-Immune Janitor of the Red Lantern Corps - Lynched on Day 1.
No actions; lynched D1.
– dramonic - Bleez, Goon of the Red Lantern Corps - Killed on Night 1.
???
– xRECKONERx - Star Sapphire, Mason Recruiter of the Violet Lantern Corps - Killed on Night 1.
Recruited Katsuki (result = death)
– Vi - Kilowog, Busdriver in the Green Lantern Corps - Killed on Night 1.
Bussed Andrius AND ??? (according to Katsuki)
– Katsuki - Bedovian, Watcher of the Sinestro Corps - Lynched on Day 2.
Recruited by Reck. Watched Andrius (result = Vi).
If Katsuki was telling the truth about the watching, then one of the following happened:
-Vi bussed Andy AND Vi. Katsuki's watch got transferred to Vi. Katsuki saw Vi visit Vi (
this seems to violate intuitive action resolution rules
)
-Vi bussed Andy AND Vi. Katsuki's watch happens before Vi's bus. Katsuki saw Vi bus Andy. Katsuki did not see NPIAU hide behind Andy which indicates NPIAU is lying.
-Vi bussed Andy AND NOT-Vi. Katsuki's watch happens before Vi's bus. Katsuki saw Vi bus Andy.
If Katsuki was telling the truth, then NPIAU is lying.
– Plum - William Hand, Operative in the Indigo Tribe - Killed on Night 2.
???
– Starbuck - Wonder Woman, Cop Mason in the Star Sapphire Corps - Killed on Night 2.
N1:
Investigated TheStove (result = innocent)
TheStove is either town or Investigation Immune
– Stephoscope - Arisia, Operative in the Green Lantern Corps - Killed on Night 2.
???
– Fate - Tomar-Re, Gunsmith in the Green Lantern Corps - Killed on Night 2.
N1:
Investigated SensFan (result = Has Gun) OR Investigated KK (result = No Gun)
SensFan is a gun owner (Mafia/Cop/...Gun Owner) OR KK is a non-gun owner (SK/Not Mafia/Not Cop/...Not Gun Owner)
Qs:
@NPIAU:
-Are there any abilities that happen prior to your hiding?
-Do abilities that target you fail or get transferred to the person you are hiding behind?
@KK-
-First, sounds like you have a reading problem. Whining about it to others is unnecessary.
-Second, your point is a load of crap-logic. If mods were being true to flavor of Blackest Night, then William Hand and Tomar Re should both on the Black Lantern team and thus should not be present or townies. Since they are both town roles in this game, then we know that mods are taking liberties with flavor
and should not put too much stock in flavor having game relevance
.
You are also using your crap-logic as an attempt to straw man the point:
you intentionally used wrong/misleading flavor to mislead the town
.
-I'm amused how you've adopted my mod-confirmed position and preach it back as if you are correcting me on something (and screw up chronology to boot). Check the post record for why danakillsu's even confirmed that in thread.
@Spy/Andy Coalition-
-With Spy/Andy/Kdub all claiming similarly, I doubt this is a scum gambit, and am inclined to trust that group as prob-town.
-I'd like confirmation that my understanding of what's been claimed so far is correct along with the implications of those claims (listed above).
--To summarize though, ultimate conclusions are:
Xvart is scum
NPIAU is untargetable
--My additional thoughts/conclusions:
NPIAU is prob-scum
SF is prob-scum
KK was probably not investigated
Given Fate denied investigating KK twice to different people, but did not deny investigating SF; I'm betting that was a breadcrumb for her actual investigation target (also makes sense since she suspected SF but didn't suspect KK). Being a gunsmith instead of a cop also explains why she was willing to give up on the result (gun doesn't equal scum).
I'm up for the xvart lynch. VOTE: xvart
SensFan and/or NPAIU should also be looked into (note that NPAIU is likely vig immune).
The Stove wrote:
More along that thought - NPIAU claims to have immunity from night actions. Spy claims a N1 result (emphasized by him). Does not compute.
No. I've been very technical with my terms but if it stops it I'll make it clear as day:
My target on NP was immediately bounced back with a no-result. Which, in my field, could me a few things. The hider part pretty much has to be true.
And, when combined with hiding behind Vi (A truly silly claim from scum that ALMOST got him lynched) it sure makes me think town.
Ok. I wasn't sure if you were implying that, but it seemed like you had actually gotten a result.
Okay then. I asked the moderators if it was okay by ruleset and win conditions to do what I am about to do and they said it was, as my goals are still playing to my (long term) win condition, and since my lynch is inevitable now I can go ahead an say this.
As some of you have deduced, I am, in fact, on the Yellow scum team. I am the dramonic counterpart to the red team (a goon). The reason I am telling you this is because I know that SensFan is on the red team because he claimed that SSBF picked yellow as the number one pick. There were/are two people on my team (myself included) that did not pick yellow as a color at all, so the fact that he picked yellow as his first pick and he didn't get it does not compute with the fact that I (and another) did not pick yellow at all.
Obviously, the point here (and why it is to my win condition) is it outs the third red member and will cripple them while my team will only be down two members, so we will have the advantage. The other advantage, and what I am now lobbying for, is lynching SensFan over me because he is also a scum PR that you (and my team) does not want in the night.
Not only is it in my team's best interest but it is also in the town's best interest to lynch SensFan today because nobody (except the red team) wants another scum PR floating around during the night. We lynch SensFan tonight and I'll get vigged, and if not, am obv lynch tomorrow.
Obviously, I recognize that this will be taken with a grain of salt as I am scum; but before you lynch me just think about it. Also, if my team gets any information tonight that incriminates the red team I will be able to disclose that tomorrow (unless it can be linked back to one of my teammates.
If you lynch me I hope SensFan rocks your world with whatever his abilities allows him to do. Remember, the enemy of your enemy is your friend. I learned the truth of that in Succession mafia.
@Spy/Andy Coalition-
-With Spy/Andy/Kdub all claiming similarly, I doubt this is a scum gambit, and am inclined to trust that group as prob-town.
-I'd like confirmation that my understanding of what's been claimed so far is correct along with the implications of those claims (listed above).
--To summarize though, ultimate conclusions are:
Xvart is scum
NPIAU is untargetable
--My additional thoughts/conclusions:
NPIAU is prob-scum
SF is prob-scum
KK was probably not investigated
Given Fate denied investigating KK twice to different people, but did not deny investigating SF; I'm betting that was a breadcrumb for her actual investigation target (also makes sense since she suspected SF but didn't suspect KK). Being a gunsmith instead of a cop also explains why she was willing to give up on the result (gun doesn't equal scum).
Personally, I still don't think NPIAU is scum.
Further, and this is FOR SURE (and should be apparent if any flip):
Andy is town.
Kdub is town.
I am town.
I think its safe to say, additionally, that Kdub / Andy / I have no direct contact with each other outside of the thread.
@xvart
Or you could be a lying scumbag buying yourself a night for ysour own evil purposes. I'd rather take the safe choice today over trusting a scum.
HM. Like Succession Mafia Pt. II... Only this time I'M NOT FUCKING ALONE. --;
Now. I want to say this, and I want people to LISTEN THIS TIME (unlike the last ten times I've tried to get this out there): SSBF SENT IN SCUM COLORS.
Now: I believe our best play is to do THIS: we lynch xvart. Why? Because if he IS Yellow PR then he'll do something tonight. And with my history of claiming scum on purpose there's something we don't know.
SO.
xvart today. If Yellow thinks SensFan is a Red PR and is dangerous then they'll shoot SensFan. Town should also shoot SensFan.
If Yellow fears red so much they should shoot him tonight.
GOOD Y/N?
predit:
SpyreX is town. I'd bet my life in-game on this. And via him, Kdub is also town.
xvart DOES make sense though. I kind of want to lynch SensFan...
Kitoari, when you see this CLAIM.
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
Don't let us go all WIFOM-y into the night, Andrius, by letting Kit quick claim something in thread without someone be able to cc/prove the claim wrong.
Don't end the day just yet. Still waiting on Magna, plus we can see if Kit wants to full claim (again, nobody counter regardless of what he says). I think lynching xvart is still the correct play.
In fearful day, in raging night,
With strong hearts full, our souls ignite,
When all seems lost in the War of Light,
Look to the stars-- For hope burns bright!
"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."
